View Poll Results: What are your 5.4L swap plans?
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#7021
intake
Ya i was wondering if you stretched a cobra or mach1 intake to the 5.4 how it would react... if it would be pretty good all around, and better then the Navi lower with the box uppers... and more streetable then the Sullivan... but probably not as good as the Aussie intake...
anyone have any dyno numbers or anything?
anyone have any dyno numbers or anything?
#7022
when it comes to the FMIC i bought one for a 03 cobra but the hard to find part is the brackets that hold it. to buy the brackets from ford is like 300 (guesstimate been a lil whie since i looked) dollars and you never find a set used anywhere...you may have to get a lil creative with that one.
did you get some gaskets for the blower yet? if so where are they from?
just curious....what you doing for a fuel system since the lightning engines are return style? i still need to figure that one out.
what type of blue paint is that on the blower....i like it
did you get some gaskets for the blower yet? if so where are they from?
just curious....what you doing for a fuel system since the lightning engines are return style? i still need to figure that one out.
what type of blue paint is that on the blower....i like it
My old blue Pro-Prod fuel rails look like they will work with some minor fabrication for the hold downs. I'll have to flip them around though. Still need to do coil pack fit tests and all that jazz though. I'm considering doing a return style conversion but I may do something a little more radical... thinking 32 gallon fuel cell, cut a hole and weld in a mounting bracket in the trunk, toss an A1000 and some more AN line at it front to back. At WOT it's going to drink gas like Paris Hilton drinks *** so I want to be sure there's enough supply.
Ya i was wondering if you stretched a cobra or mach1 intake to the 5.4 how it would react... if it would be pretty good all around, and better then the Navi lower with the box uppers... and more streetable then the Sullivan... but probably not as good as the Aussie intake...
anyone have any dyno numbers or anything?
anyone have any dyno numbers or anything?
#7024
WHOLY RUSTED METAL! MOTHER OF SAMSON!
THE beast runs!!!!!!!!!!
I started it last nite with no exhaust and she purrd! SWEET!
STUPID Summit H-pipe kit will not bolt up! Floor pan is in the way. Thanks OK! Cause today I extended the pipe to clear the floor.
Another road block came in the shop today. OSHA..................
THE beast runs!!!!!!!!!!
I started it last nite with no exhaust and she purrd! SWEET!
STUPID Summit H-pipe kit will not bolt up! Floor pan is in the way. Thanks OK! Cause today I extended the pipe to clear the floor.
Another road block came in the shop today. OSHA..................
#7028
There will be some wiring f00 to be done. Need to extend several sensors to new locations. It's one of those things you'll want a few weeks to work on. At least until I get the how-to done.
Hey R3d do u have to extend wires on the 5.4 2v or the 4v? I thought on te 2v we didnt..
Hey R3d do u have to extend wires on the 5.4 2v or the 4v? I thought on te 2v we didnt..
#7029
welp still waiting on rods this friday is week three friggen ebay stores... wpparts stray away cant get ahold of them by phone or email. but ordered my cms stage 2 n/a cams last night..and to all who have changed valve springs i salute you im getting close to throwing the damn things through a wall removal was easy reinstall sucks major ***.
using a offset jaw spring compressor and its hell on earth ive got about 4 hrs into 10 or 11 springs still 5-6 more to go ;x but hopeflully the **** heads get me my rods and when i get my cams in i can start reassembly.
just through ied throw in an update later guys
using a offset jaw spring compressor and its hell on earth ive got about 4 hrs into 10 or 11 springs still 5-6 more to go ;x but hopeflully the **** heads get me my rods and when i get my cams in i can start reassembly.
just through ied throw in an update later guys
#7030
If you paid with paypal and their is a problem, let ebay know and paypal.
That normaly gets the ball rolling for the slow pokes. Let them know you are waiting and have already paid. DO NOT call the company and ONLY email through Ebay.
Got the exhaust hung loose and now I need to tack together.
That normaly gets the ball rolling for the slow pokes. Let them know you are waiting and have already paid. DO NOT call the company and ONLY email through Ebay.
Got the exhaust hung loose and now I need to tack together.
#7031
lol. ill try not to, but im certain i will. for example just yesterday i did an a/c recharge and front pads on my jeep before i leave for vaca on sunday. changed the pads, reassembled, no problem. bled the brakes and had no pedal. kept bleeding, and bleeding, and bleeding... no pedal... wtf... checked the master, the booster, the lines. no leaks anywhere... went to bleed a little more thinking what the hell, its worth another try. grabbed the same 9/16ths wrench i had been using all night. WAIT A SEC.... 9/16ths.... "why the hell is my wrench so big?" i asked myself now that the beers i had been drinking all day are starting to wear off. "JESUS CHRIST!!! Im bleeding my goddamn calipers from the friggin banjo bolt!"
thats the kinda retarded **** i plan to "screw up" as i do this swap... lol
thats the kinda retarded **** i plan to "screw up" as i do this swap... lol
#7033
There will be some wiring f00 to be done. Need to extend several sensors to new locations. It's one of those things you'll want a few weeks to work on. At least until I get the how-to done.
Hey R3d do u have to extend wires on the 5.4 2v or the 4v? I thought on te 2v we didnt..
Hey R3d do u have to extend wires on the 5.4 2v or the 4v? I thought on te 2v we didnt..
#7034
intakes
Richard Holdener did a big write up of 4v intakes. From my interpretation it looked like the C-head cobra intake was the best overall. I'm going to go ahead and say that the sullivan appears to be the only one that's simple enough to deal with without being nasty expensive.
i saw the one on the 4.6's he did though...
But wouldnt the torq curves and HP curves be different on a 5.4 compared to the 4.6 R3D??
thats why i thought it would be interesting to see you a build with a widened cobra intake... to see if it was atleast compareable to a boss 290... Say you pick up the intake 350 shipped.. have it shipped straight to MMR to get it widened.. then back to you fr 800 (including shipping...) thats 1150 in an intake.. not to bad... and you can use 01 cobra fuel rails... or mach 1 rails that will bolt straight up to it... and it would be alot cheaper then a boss 290...
#7035
There will be some wiring f00 to be done. Need to extend several sensors to new locations. It's one of those things you'll want a few weeks to work on. At least until I get the how-to done.
Hey R3d do u have to extend wires on the 5.4 2v or the 4v? I thought on te 2v we didnt..
Hey R3d do u have to extend wires on the 5.4 2v or the 4v? I thought on te 2v we didnt..
yes, i saw his write up for 5.4's but he does not talk about the cobra intake widened without adapter plates... or hell even with them...
i saw the one on the 4.6's he did though...
But wouldnt the torq curves and HP curves be different on a 5.4 compared to the 4.6 R3D??
thats why i thought it would be interesting to see you a build with a widened cobra intake... to see if it was atleast compareable to a boss 290... Say you pick up the intake 350 shipped.. have it shipped straight to MMR to get it widened.. then back to you fr 800 (including shipping...) thats 1150 in an intake.. not to bad... and you can use 01 cobra fuel rails... or mach 1 rails that will bolt straight up to it... and it would be alot cheaper then a boss 290...
i saw the one on the 4.6's he did though...
But wouldnt the torq curves and HP curves be different on a 5.4 compared to the 4.6 R3D??
thats why i thought it would be interesting to see you a build with a widened cobra intake... to see if it was atleast compareable to a boss 290... Say you pick up the intake 350 shipped.. have it shipped straight to MMR to get it widened.. then back to you fr 800 (including shipping...) thats 1150 in an intake.. not to bad... and you can use 01 cobra fuel rails... or mach 1 rails that will bolt straight up to it... and it would be alot cheaper then a boss 290...
#7039
Well I'd like to buy that one back and strap on a D-1...it would need a couple of other upgrades...certainly a new intake because the adapter plates were the restriction but it still managed to put down 603 at the wheels with 14psi...the torque was unreal though...definitely the 50 extra cubes...the 4.6 put down 450/475 before it went bye bye
#7041
Got a quick question.
Just picked up a 5.4L long block from a F150, I think its a 00 motor. Plan to use it to swap into my buddies 01 GT.
The car already has full bolt-ons. JBA headers, X pipe, cat-back, pulleys, C&L intake, Prof. Produts elbow and 75mm TB. Has been tuned by a proffesional tuner using SCT2, and last time it was on the dyno it was doing 270 ish to the wheels.
We plan to use the HPS intake, and use stock bottom end and heads for now. We are changing the cams and springs. Just curious to see what cams would do best in this car with stock heads and stock bottom. Also will we have PtV clearance issues?
Later it will be wearing TFS heads with a built bottom end.
Just picked up a 5.4L long block from a F150, I think its a 00 motor. Plan to use it to swap into my buddies 01 GT.
The car already has full bolt-ons. JBA headers, X pipe, cat-back, pulleys, C&L intake, Prof. Produts elbow and 75mm TB. Has been tuned by a proffesional tuner using SCT2, and last time it was on the dyno it was doing 270 ish to the wheels.
We plan to use the HPS intake, and use stock bottom end and heads for now. We are changing the cams and springs. Just curious to see what cams would do best in this car with stock heads and stock bottom. Also will we have PtV clearance issues?
Later it will be wearing TFS heads with a built bottom end.
#7042
The car already has full bolt-ons. JBA headers, X pipe, cat-back, pulleys, C&L intake, Prof. Produts elbow and 75mm TB.
We plan to use the HPS intake, and use stock bottom end and heads for now. We are changing the cams and springs. Just curious to see what cams would do best in this car with stock heads and stock bottom. Also will we have PtV clearance issues?
As for PTV, some are trickier than others, but if set up right they wont. The VT cams never seemed to have problems, but from what I hear sometimes the Comps would HAVE to be degree'd. Has to do with variance in factory cam timing, and that comp engineers some timing into their cams to begin with, whereas VT did not. Bottom line, degree them and you will be a-ok.
#7046
k
The cams and heads will have a lot to say about peak hp so not everything translates well. The rpm for peak HP should be reduced by 800-1000rpm over a 4.6 with the same intake/heads/cams/exhaust. So if you have to spin your 4v 4.6 to 7500rpm for peak power with a particular setup, figure 6500-6700 rpm would do the same thing in a 5.4 but it'll also lean over earlier. Like I always say, this is why we can get away with numerically lower ratio rear gears.
#7047
Some other forums have great write-ups on cam swaps and degreeing them in, check them out. If toothless hillbilly retards cam degree cams here in Ky,.........I know you can.
We will be here with all questions answered. just ask
#7048
The car already has full bolt-ons. JBA headers, X pipe, cat-back, pulleys, C&L intake, Prof. Produts elbow and 75mm TB. Has been tuned by a proffesional tuner using SCT2, and last time it was on the dyno it was doing 270 ish to the wheels.
We plan to use the HPS intake, and use stock bottom end and heads for now. We are changing the cams and springs. Just curious to see what cams would do best in this car with stock heads and stock bottom. Also will we have PtV clearance issues?
Later it will be wearing TFS heads with a built bottom end.
We plan to use the HPS intake, and use stock bottom end and heads for now. We are changing the cams and springs. Just curious to see what cams would do best in this car with stock heads and stock bottom. Also will we have PtV clearance issues?
Later it will be wearing TFS heads with a built bottom end.
+1
degree them anyway. factory cam sprockets are not perfectly quality controlled. There've been variances. I'm considering getting a set of adjustables and retarding my cams a few degrees. Moreover... I think when MMR timed them they timed them like they were going in a 4.6 and put the 4 degrees of advance in. May be down on power by a good bit because of it.
#7049
I'd like to see a hi-tech custom grind on that. Something designed to work best with the TFS heads if you're serious about going that route. Don't bother with Comps off the shelf grinds. Hi-tech and cushman can both put together a custom grind that will make you happier in the long run. You very much want to degree the cams. Factory cam gears have been shown to be a little sloppy and you'll want them set right for max power. Look for a good 230 something duration and moderate lift. You shouldn't have any PTV issues with just about any cam that's street drivable. Your JBA's should work. IIRC myillwill tried them on hunters car.
But a comp stage 2 or similar should be ok with PTV. Anyone running any of the TFS cams yet?