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Old 11-25-2007, 08:09 PM   #3061 (permalink)
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BTW, "When rebuilding an engine that is internally balanced, the flywheel and damper have no effect on engine balance and can be balanced seperatly"
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Old 11-25-2007, 08:12 PM   #3062 (permalink)
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Look bud, I am not going to argue with someone like you. Your a walking google search and nothing more. Apparently you dont know jack since you ran the same ET as I have in a bolton 4.6, and unless this is supraforums the miles per hour dont mean jack since you still only trapped 90mph in a turbo mustang. Ive accidently done more than you will ever accomplish.
Since were on the grammer kick it would appear, I highlighted the mistake you made, kinda odd as it seems the one word you misspell appears to define you

LOL, Good luck and keep up the pioneering, and as for most my of my information, it was researched from Sean Hyland, Greg Banish, Richard Holdener, Ben Watson and Corky Bell's books and asking questions with local engine builders. As for the performance of my car I could care less what you say, I'm not here to bench race just to learn and help others, unlike yourself, which doesn't deserve to even be here.
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Old 11-25-2007, 08:14 PM   #3063 (permalink)
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BTW, "When rebuilding an engine that is internally balanced, the flywheel and damper have no effect on engine balance and can be balanced seperatly"
Pioneering efforts are great for us, I'm sure I can speak for everyone here, We will greatly appreciate the feedback you provide.
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Old 11-25-2007, 08:17 PM   #3064 (permalink)
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One more for you "and warned about indexing the position of the flywheel if they have to remove it later for resurfacing. Owners of externally balanced engines should also be warned about installing different flywheels or harmonic dampers and how it can upset balance."

Notice this last statement as its all over the damn internet. It says "owners of externally balanced engines" need to be worried when changing the dampers and NOT those with internally balanced engines.

So getting back to my original question before she came in here regurgitating what she has read, does anyone know if my 4.6 damper will fit the 5.4 crank SINCE IT DOES NOT FUCKING MATTER. Thanks dude for running us all around in a circle to get right back to where I started, as if this thread wasnt long enough allready.

BTW, i caught the little quick stab at redn3ck in your last post as Im sure he and everyone else did.

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Old 11-25-2007, 08:26 PM   #3065 (permalink)
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One more for you smart ass prick "and warned about indexing the position of the flywheel if they have to remove it later for resurfacing. Owners of externally balanced engines should also be warned about installing different flywheels or harmonic dampers and how it can upset balance."

Notice this last statement as its all over the damn Internet. It says "owners of externally balanced engines" need to be worried when changing the dampers and NOT those with internally balanced engines.

So getting back to my original question before numb nuts came in here regurgitating what he has read, does anyone know if my 4.6 damper will fit the 5.4 crank SINCE IT DOES NOT FUCKING MATTER. Thanks dude for running us all around in a circle to get right back to where I started, as if this thread wasn't long enough already.

BTW, i caught the little quick stab at redn3ck in your last post as I'm sure he and everyone else did.
I'm not going to argue with ignorance and if you read my first reply I answered your question "YES" it will fit just fine. As for changing the balancer out, I'm sure they meant the stock replacement one, not one off a totally different size engine.
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Old 11-25-2007, 08:38 PM   #3066 (permalink)
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i used my steeda udp from my 4.6 over to my 1st 5.4 without any issues.
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Old 11-25-2007, 08:47 PM   #3067 (permalink)
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i used my steeda udp from my 4.6 over to my 1st 5.4 without any issues.
Did the motor survive, how long, if not what went wrong with it. Which balancer was on it originally and what year udp did you use? Any info would be great!
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Old 11-25-2007, 09:08 PM   #3068 (permalink)
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it had the stock 8 rib crank pulley, used the steeda dampner that was equal to stock 4.6 engines. the motor went south under the control of someone who revved it past 7k for way to long and a rod broke.
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Old 11-25-2007, 09:15 PM   #3069 (permalink)
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it had the stock 8 rib crank pulley, used the steeda dampner that was equal to stock 4.6 engines. the motor went south under the control of someone who revved it past 7k for way to long and a rod broke.
Thanks for the info myillwill, much appreciated!

cdjnight, as for the ignorance statement, coming from a regurgitator such as yourself I take it with a grain of salt. When I am out making parts to use and your buying them off a shelf I will try not to let your words hurt me too much. Take care!

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Old 11-25-2007, 09:41 PM   #3070 (permalink)
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Supra just drop it, know one here cares about your regurgitating fantasy and know one here needs your name calling potty mouth and disrespectful attitude, most of us are here to help each other and learn, so why don't you find another forum to rant on and leave this one clean for others to enjoy and use to better ourselves without your crap.
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Old 11-25-2007, 09:46 PM   #3071 (permalink)
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it had the stock 8 rib crank pulley, used the steeda dampner that was equal to stock 4.6 engines. the motor went south under the control of someone who revved it past 7k for way to long and a rod broke.
How many miles do you suppose you had on it before it let go, also what did you use for your new set up and did your engine builder need your balancer during the build?

Also is your balancer and pulley two pieces, it looks like it on your web page? Newer style ones are one piece.
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the steeda one is one piece with the rubber insert in it like the stock one. i had it on for 2 years. the motor let go cus the driver didn't understand that the red area at the right end of the tach isn't where u keep the needle.

the new combo the machine shop balanced the crank/rods/pistons. the aluminum flywheel was balanced at spec where i got it from.
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One more for you smartass prick "and warned about indexing the position of the flywheel if they have to remove it later for resurfacing. Owners of externally balanced engines should also be warned about installing different flywheels or harmonic dampers and how it can upset balance."

Notice this last statement as its all over the damn internet. It says "owners of externally balanced engines" need to be worried when changing the dampers and NOT those with internally balanced engines.

So getting back to my original question before numbnuts came in here regurgitating what he has read, does anyone know if my 4.6 damper will fit the 5.4 crank SINCE IT DOES NOT FUCKING MATTER. Thanks dude for running us all around in a circle to get right back to where I started, as if this thread wasnt long enough allready.

BTW, i caught the little quick stab at redn3ck in your last post as Im sure he and everyone else did.
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Hate to say it but in Sean Hyland's book, he states that for 4.6's anyway, you should use the Cobra one for stick shift and the Marauder one for auto cars. I think it also said using a 5.4 on a 4.6 won't harm anything but I don't have the book w/ me at this time so I can't say for sure about the 5.4.
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Please continue the conversation in a civilized manor guys.

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What a waste of time reading "crap".
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What a waste of time reading "crap".
Agreed, especially to end right back up to the original thought that it does not matter which damper you use.
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one thing i noticed was that when i put the steeda one on my 4.6 it felt smoother at idle then the stock one. but now that i have soild motor and trans mounts and an aluminum flywheel along with the stage 3 cams i don't think i'll notice any odd vibrations on this motor if any arise.
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Old 11-26-2007, 08:58 AM   #3079 (permalink)
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wow guys.. I leave for 1 day and you're at each others throats.

single and cdj please knock it off and be nice to each other. just a little... please.

Now then, there are UDP's for trucks too so I'm inclined to believe that as long as it's all neutral balanced things should be fine. I've got bigger fish to fry for now and those aren't going on till at least spring anyway.

Now back to the grinding and gnashing of teeth.

Dyno run is coming day affa tomorrow at 13:00 pacific. Hoping for reasonably high numbers. I'll be kinda disappointed if I don't clear 300rwhp but whatever it's not like the numbers being lower than expected changes the fact that it's sick fast... I mean; like the man said, "I'm goin fast daddy!"

I finally pulled out all my gauges and the rats nest of wiring that had accumulated and redid the whole works. No more hard switched activation or key-off function but they all come on with the key and all the lights dim with the main cluster. The newest one is a Volt gauge that I stashed in my center console. It's been kinda nagging at me for a while to get it in there. I've been convinced that my battery is going bad but without an accurate volts gauge it's hard to be certain.

Like always all my connections were soldered and covered with shrink tube. One of the problems with the rats nest was a vampire tap that I used for a ground wire on my AF gauge that was getting crosstalk from the radar detector every time it'd get a strong hit. Bugged me.


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Old 11-26-2007, 02:22 PM   #3080 (permalink)
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so where are u getting in dyned at?
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