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View Poll Results: What are your 5.4L swap plans?
Not swapping. You guys are nuts for trying. 4 3.25%
Not swapping but find the topic interesting. 19 15.45%
Thinking about doing the swap but not in the next year. 23 18.70%
Definitely going to do the swap in the next year or so. 30 24.39%
Doing it now. Looking for an engine or awaiting delivery. 17 13.82%
Doing it now. Already bought an engine. 19 15.45%
Done. Got my 5.4L and showin my tail lights to camaro's every day. 9 7.32%
Screw 5.4, I'm going diesel 4cylinder. 2 1.63%
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Old 10-14-2007, 10:40 AM   #2761 (permalink)
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much appreciated.. what are u useing for the dipstick in the meentime? oh and what belt did u use cuz the 5.4 belt i got is a little big. i jus got the one for the 2003 f250 cuz i dont atually know what the block came out of

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Old 10-14-2007, 02:15 PM   #2762 (permalink)
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4.6 is in the car still.. I'm hoping everything lines up real quick here to get it in.
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Old 10-14-2007, 03:00 PM   #2763 (permalink)
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I used an '03 Explorer dipstick, just had to open up the mounting hole a little.
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Old 10-14-2007, 07:40 PM   #2764 (permalink)
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here is the pass. header so far. i ground off the welds on the flange to push the pipes in 1/4 an inch and added 1.5 to 2 inch tot he tubes down low. gonna tack weld it and test fit it tomarrow.
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Old 10-15-2007, 08:24 AM   #2765 (permalink)
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well guys she started right up. sounds really nice but feels insanley slow and hesitates. will the tuning take care of that?
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Old 10-15-2007, 08:49 AM   #2766 (permalink)
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yep... it's the tune. It's almost certainly dumping large volumes of fuel in to try and compensate for the increased manifold vacuum and more air coming in as a result of the extra cubes.

What's your build info again?
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Old 10-15-2007, 09:54 AM   #2767 (permalink)
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2003 5.4 2v. went with the spacer plates dropped it in an 04 GT. also will i need to get a new battery cuz after i cranked it over a few times, it would just die. maybe its a bad battery that went bad during the wait.
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Old 10-15-2007, 11:01 AM   #2768 (permalink)
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what mods you have on it?
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Old 10-15-2007, 11:52 AM   #2769 (permalink)
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yeah...it's going to need a tune to understand the new air. Check your vacuum connections and make sure there's no leaks. Those can cause that sort of drivability issues too.
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Old 10-15-2007, 12:31 PM   #2770 (permalink)
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do i need to get a 5.4 battery or somethin? cuz my old battery is havin trouble crankin over. i went and had it tested and it was fine.
mods are just pulleys shortys and intake. fairly stock
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Old 10-15-2007, 12:47 PM   #2771 (permalink)
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sounds like a ground is missing.
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Old 10-15-2007, 11:11 PM   #2772 (permalink)
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heres something to get you guys drooling somemore........

http://www.corral.net/forums/showthread.php?t=961070



just think of the possibilities...
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Old 10-16-2007, 08:49 AM   #2773 (permalink)
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skinny minnie between the holes. I forsee HG sealing troubles with that super small bore spacing. Looks like they wet sleeved a stock iron block. Cool but meh...
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Old 10-16-2007, 01:25 PM   #2774 (permalink)
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big bore 5.0l engines have been holding up.

i like it. a lot.
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Old 10-16-2007, 01:33 PM   #2775 (permalink)
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skinny minnie between the holes. I forsee HG sealing troubles with that super small bore spacing. Looks like they wet sleeved a stock iron block. Cool but meh...
Thats exactly what it looks like to me also and after reading the link - we are correct.

VT Engines has been doing this for months, and cheaper I might ad.
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Old 10-16-2007, 04:28 PM   #2776 (permalink)
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so, if someone were to use that block could they say they had a 351 windsor and not be lying?
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Old 10-16-2007, 05:16 PM   #2777 (permalink)
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so, if someone were to use that block could they say they had a 351 windsor and not be lying?
Yea I suppose, definatly not what youd be thinking though...
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Old 10-16-2007, 07:14 PM   #2778 (permalink)
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found a couple S/C 5.4l swaps. i think we need these guys around here.

first, a Navi 4v in a bullit, who somehow made use of the cobra Eaton m112. i think on adapters? IDK

5.4 SC Bullitt startup and idle

the second, a lightning swap with a nice lil inlet adaption that keeps it under a 3" cowl

MM Performance 5.4 Supercharged GT...system will fit under 3" cowl hood...call 704-684-0040 for details...dyno numbers coming soon.
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Old 10-16-2007, 10:29 PM   #2779 (permalink)
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Any new news on 5.4 Hardballr?
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Old 10-16-2007, 11:04 PM   #2780 (permalink)
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very nice
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Old 10-17-2007, 08:30 AM   #2781 (permalink)
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so, if someone were to use that block could they say they had a 351 windsor and not be lying?
I would have to say that it would need to be qualified with the Modular designation. So a 351 Modular windsor would be more accurate. A 351W is a very specific designation... but I see your point. It does have a certain caché.

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Any new news on 5.4 Hardballr?
It's well on it's way. Last time I spoke with Bob he was talking a few months for a production prototype. After that it's all about verifying that it'll work as advertised, setting up the CNC programs to machine as needed and set up the install kit and instructions. I'd bet before 6 months we'll see a major announcement. That's pure speculation but HPS already has the thing worked out for the most part.
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Old 10-17-2007, 09:07 AM   #2782 (permalink)
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So I was reading the backlogs of this thread to see what I missed in the month or so hiatus when I was planning on selling the 5.4L - and noticed that someone mentioned Reichard making 3v adapter plates ?

Does anyone have any news on this, any photos, anyone using them sucessfully? Any more importatntly - does HPS plan to make a better version ?
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HPS won't be making any more plates... they're not a good enough solution to the problem. I do see a 3v intake sans CMCV's in the future but I've only ever just touched the subject with Bob. I don't know that there are any hard plans to go there. I can't see why not since it's such a great way to add a lot of power and stay with SOHC.

I'd say it's a good time to broach the subject with Bob. If you can show there's some interest in the market for a better option than just plates I think people will jump at the idea. The question becomes though do you make the kit centered on 05+ cars, 96-04 cars or adaptable between them? Remember tooling costs serious cash so each design is a major investment.

I had to show HPS a good size immediate market along with sustained growth potential for over a year before it started to show financial promise enough to justify the 5.4 intake. Remember, HPS is a business, so while there's a desire to do all these things for the community the realities of commerce interfere.

EDIT: I have reichard 2v plates and I've seen their 4v plates. I'd bet the 3v plates are just as nice (which is VERY nice). Hood clearance is going to be fun.
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Old 10-17-2007, 01:03 PM   #2784 (permalink)
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You mentonied that you read on corral about a guy who already had them (3v plates) and the car was running - do you have any information on that ? I searched the site but got nowhere.

I don't think hood clearances will be that bad, the 5.4 3v fits under the stock hood (from what Ive read) so a 1" adapter plate shouldn't make things that bad - almost any of the aftermarket hoods would work. That is, assuming they leave the CMRV plates, if they remove them - stock hood baby !!!

FWIW I havent touched the motor recently, I got the rifle cleaning kit but have not had any time. G/f + kid + business eats up time. To top that off my regisration is coming up so I have to hold off on buying the main bearings for a bit.
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Old 10-17-2007, 01:24 PM   #2785 (permalink)
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not off hand...I'll search around my history and see if anything shows up. I'd call reichard and get a set started. It's a great solution in the absence of anything else.

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Old 10-17-2007, 02:07 PM   #2786 (permalink)
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i talked to the guys at RR like 3 weeks ago when i ordered my 2v plates and and we got into the 3 and 4v a little bit and said they already have a 2 and 4v(obviously) and were working on constructing 3v plates. i didnt get into it to much with them but if i were u id give em a call and find out. there pretty informational. and the chick that always picks up the phone sounds like a cutie!
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Old 10-17-2007, 09:20 PM   #2787 (permalink)
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Chicks voices can be pretty deceiving sometimes. There's a girl I work with that sounds all nice and innocent and hot on the phone but she's a 300+ beast with a mustache.

Anyways, friday night i'm headin over to the local dragstrip to see what I can run. I raced a buddy of mine last weekend with a head/cam/intake/gears+every bolt on in the book 5.0 and I left him by almost 2 car lengths from a 25 roll. He's went 13.5 @106 with street tires so I'm hoping I can at least match that.
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Old 10-18-2007, 08:04 AM   #2788 (permalink)
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With a 106 trap he should be able to see really low 13's and you should be in the 12's pulling on him like that.
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Old 10-18-2007, 08:37 AM   #2789 (permalink)
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Thats what i'm hopin for. The main reason I started this project was to go 12's on street tires without using a power adder.
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Old 10-18-2007, 01:51 PM   #2790 (permalink)
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So I was reading the backlogs of this thread to see what I missed in the month or so hiatus when I was planning on selling the 5.4L - and noticed that someone mentioned Reichard making 3v adapter plates ?

Does anyone have any news on this, any photos, anyone using them sucessfully? Any more importatntly - does HPS plan to make a better version ?
OK! I'm lost! I can be dumb like that!
Fill me in here. Are you saying that the 3v plates are for a 3v intake on top of a 2v sohc?
If so, we need to start are own measuring and mapping this out into blueprints. If this would work I will make my own set. I have pondered over this idea when searching good deals on Ebay.
The aluminum would be a little cheaper than the PI intake adapters(over $200) then you still have to do the work. The 3v intake would already have the width and if the witdh was close it wouldn't require alot of angles and offsets. More like a straight shot adapter.
Lets brain pick please!
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