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razorwire7 · 10-14-2007, 10:40 AM

much appreciated.. what are u useing for the dipstick in the meentime? oh and what belt did u use cuz the 5.4 belt i got is a little big. i jus got the one for the 2003 f250 cuz i dont atually know what the block came out of

r3dn3ck · 10-14-2007, 02:15 PM

4.6 is in the car still.. I'm hoping everything lines up real quick here to get it in.

mean330 · 10-14-2007, 03:00 PM

I used an '03 Explorer dipstick, just had to open up the mounting hole a little.

myillwillinc · 10-14-2007, 07:40 PM

here is the pass. header so far. i ground off the welds on the flange to push the pipes in 1/4 an inch and added 1.5 to 2 inch tot he tubes down low. gonna tack weld it and test fit it tomarrow.

razorwire7 · 10-15-2007, 08:24 AM

well guys she started right up. sounds really nice but feels insanley slow and hesitates. will the tuning take care of that?

r3dn3ck · 10-15-2007, 08:49 AM

yep... it's the tune. It's almost certainly dumping large volumes of fuel in to try and compensate for the increased manifold vacuum and more air coming in as a result of the extra cubes.

What's your build info again?

razorwire7 · 10-15-2007, 09:54 AM

2003 5.4 2v. went with the spacer plates dropped it in an 04 GT. also will i need to get a new battery cuz after i cranked it over a few times, it would just die. maybe its a bad battery that went bad during the wait.

myillwillinc · 10-15-2007, 11:01 AM

what mods you have on it?

r3dn3ck · 10-15-2007, 11:52 AM

yeah...it's going to need a tune to understand the new air. Check your vacuum connections and make sure there's no leaks. Those can cause that sort of drivability issues too.

razorwire7 · 10-15-2007, 12:31 PM

do i need to get a 5.4 battery or somethin? cuz my old battery is havin trouble crankin over. i went and had it tested and it was fine.
mods are just pulleys shortys and intake. fairly stock

r3dn3ck · 10-15-2007, 12:47 PM

sounds like a ground is missing.

myillwillinc · 10-15-2007, 11:11 PM

heres something to get you guys drooling somemore........

http://www.corral.net/forums/showthread.php?t=961070

just think of the possibilities...

r3dn3ck · 10-16-2007, 08:49 AM

skinny minnie between the holes. I forsee HG sealing troubles with that super small bore spacing. Looks like they wet sleeved a stock iron block. Cool but meh...

tooslow · 10-16-2007, 01:25 PM

big bore 5.0l engines have been holding up.

i like it. a lot.

2Eighty1 · 10-16-2007, 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by r3dn3ck

skinny minnie between the holes. I forsee HG sealing troubles with that super small bore spacing. Looks like they wet sleeved a stock iron block. Cool but meh...

Thats exactly what it looks like to me also and after reading the link - we are correct.

VT Engines has been doing this for months, and cheaper I might ad.

tooslow · 10-16-2007, 04:28 PM

so, if someone were to use that block could they say they had a 351 windsor and not be lying?

2Eighty1 · 10-16-2007, 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tooslow

so, if someone were to use that block could they say they had a 351 windsor and not be lying?

Yea I suppose, definatly not what youd be thinking though...

tooslow · 10-16-2007, 07:14 PM

found a couple S/C 5.4l swaps. i think we need these guys around here.

first, a Navi 4v in a bullit, who somehow made use of the cobra Eaton m112. i think on adapters? IDK

5.4 SC Bullitt startup and idle

the second, a lightning swap with a nice lil inlet adaption that keeps it under a 3" cowl

MM Performance 5.4 Supercharged GT...system will fit under 3" cowl hood...call 704-684-0040 for details...dyno numbers coming soon.

mean330 · 10-16-2007, 10:29 PM

Any new news on 5.4 Hardballr?

myillwillinc · 10-16-2007, 11:04 PM

very nice

r3dn3ck · 10-17-2007, 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tooslow

so, if someone were to use that block could they say they had a 351 windsor and not be lying?

I would have to say that it would need to be qualified with the Modular designation. So a 351 Modular windsor would be more accurate. A 351W is a very specific designation... but I see your point. It does have a certain caché.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mean330

Any new news on 5.4 Hardballr?

It's well on it's way. Last time I spoke with Bob he was talking a few months for a production prototype. After that it's all about verifying that it'll work as advertised, setting up the CNC programs to machine as needed and set up the install kit and instructions. I'd bet before 6 months we'll see a major announcement. That's pure speculation but HPS already has the thing worked out for the most part.

2Eighty1 · 10-17-2007, 09:07 AM

So I was reading the backlogs of this thread to see what I missed in the month or so hiatus when I was planning on selling the 5.4L - and noticed that someone mentioned Reichard making 3v adapter plates ?

Does anyone have any news on this, any photos, anyone using them sucessfully? Any more importatntly - does HPS plan to make a better version ?

r3dn3ck · 10-17-2007, 09:38 AM

HPS won't be making any more plates... they're not a good enough solution to the problem. I do see a 3v intake sans CMCV's in the future but I've only ever just touched the subject with Bob. I don't know that there are any hard plans to go there. I can't see why not since it's such a great way to add a lot of power and stay with SOHC.

I'd say it's a good time to broach the subject with Bob. If you can show there's some interest in the market for a better option than just plates I think people will jump at the idea. The question becomes though do you make the kit centered on 05+ cars, 96-04 cars or adaptable between them? Remember tooling costs serious cash so each design is a major investment.

I had to show HPS a good size immediate market along with sustained growth potential for over a year before it started to show financial promise enough to justify the 5.4 intake. Remember, HPS is a business, so while there's a desire to do all these things for the community the realities of commerce interfere.

EDIT: I have reichard 2v plates and I've seen their 4v plates. I'd bet the 3v plates are just as nice (which is VERY nice). Hood clearance is going to be fun.

2Eighty1 · 10-17-2007, 01:03 PM

You mentonied that you read on corral about a guy who already had them (3v plates) and the car was running - do you have any information on that ? I searched the site but got nowhere.

I don't think hood clearances will be that bad, the 5.4 3v fits under the stock hood (from what Ive read) so a 1" adapter plate shouldn't make things that b

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10-14-2007, 10:40 AM	#2761 (permalink)
razorwire7 5.4L in progress Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 29	much appreciated.. what are u useing for the dipstick in the meentime? oh and what belt did u use cuz the 5.4 belt i got is a little big. i jus got the one for the 2003 f250 cuz i dont atually know what the block came out of Last edited by razorwire7 : 10-14-2007 at 10:43 AM.

10-14-2007, 03:00 PM	#2763 (permalink)
mean330 Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Ohio Posts: 45	I used an '03 Explorer dipstick, just had to open up the mounting hole a little. __________________ "horsepower sells cars but torque wins races"

10-15-2007, 11:01 AM	#2768 (permalink)
myillwillinc Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 608	what mods you have on it? __________________ 5.4 project in progress linky-> http://www.illwillinc.com/97mustang.htm T-Rods Coatings - Custom all the way.... http://www.illwillinc.com/

10-15-2007, 11:11 PM	#2772 (permalink)
myillwillinc Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 608	heres something to get you guys drooling somemore........ http://www.corral.net/forums/showthread.php?t=961070 just think of the possibilities... __________________ 5.4 project in progress linky-> http://www.illwillinc.com/97mustang.htm T-Rods Coatings - Custom all the way.... http://www.illwillinc.com/

10-14-2007, 02:15 PM	#2762 (permalink)
r3dn3ck Wowbagger hates me too! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Magrathea/California Posts: 6,832	4.6 is in the car still.. I'm hoping everything lines up real quick here to get it in.

10-15-2007, 08:24 AM	#2765 (permalink)
razorwire7 5.4L in progress Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 29	well guys she started right up. sounds really nice but feels insanley slow and hesitates. will the tuning take care of that?

10-15-2007, 08:49 AM	#2766 (permalink)
r3dn3ck Wowbagger hates me too! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Magrathea/California Posts: 6,832	yep... it's the tune. It's almost certainly dumping large volumes of fuel in to try and compensate for the increased manifold vacuum and more air coming in as a result of the extra cubes. What's your build info again?

10-15-2007, 09:54 AM	#2767 (permalink)
razorwire7 5.4L in progress Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 29	2003 5.4 2v. went with the spacer plates dropped it in an 04 GT. also will i need to get a new battery cuz after i cranked it over a few times, it would just die. maybe its a bad battery that went bad during the wait.

10-15-2007, 11:52 AM	#2769 (permalink)
r3dn3ck Wowbagger hates me too! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Magrathea/California Posts: 6,832	yeah...it's going to need a tune to understand the new air. Check your vacuum connections and make sure there's no leaks. Those can cause that sort of drivability issues too.

10-15-2007, 12:31 PM	#2770 (permalink)
razorwire7 5.4L in progress Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 29	do i need to get a 5.4 battery or somethin? cuz my old battery is havin trouble crankin over. i went and had it tested and it was fine. mods are just pulleys shortys and intake. fairly stock

10-15-2007, 12:47 PM	#2771 (permalink)
r3dn3ck Wowbagger hates me too! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Magrathea/California Posts: 6,832	sounds like a ground is missing.

10-16-2007, 08:49 AM	#2773 (permalink)
r3dn3ck Wowbagger hates me too! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Magrathea/California Posts: 6,832	skinny minnie between the holes. I forsee HG sealing troubles with that super small bore spacing. Looks like they wet sleeved a stock iron block. Cool but meh...

10-16-2007, 01:25 PM	#2774 (permalink)
tooslow Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 165	big bore 5.0l engines have been holding up. i like it. a lot. __________________ ______ 98 GT

10-16-2007, 04:28 PM	#2776 (permalink)
tooslow Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 165	so, if someone were to use that block could they say they had a 351 windsor and not be lying? __________________ ______ 98 GT

10-16-2007, 07:14 PM	#2778 (permalink)
tooslow Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 165	found a couple S/C 5.4l swaps. i think we need these guys around here. first, a Navi 4v in a bullit, who somehow made use of the cobra Eaton m112. i think on adapters? IDK 5.4 SC Bullitt startup and idle the second, a lightning swap with a nice lil inlet adaption that keeps it under a 3" cowl MM Performance 5.4 Supercharged GT...system will fit under 3" cowl hood...call 704-684-0040 for details...dyno numbers coming soon. __________________ ______ 98 GT

10-16-2007, 10:29 PM	#2779 (permalink)
mean330 Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Ohio Posts: 45	Any new news on 5.4 Hardballr? __________________ "horsepower sells cars but torque wins races"

10-16-2007, 11:04 PM	#2780 (permalink)
myillwillinc Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 608	very nice __________________ 5.4 project in progress linky-> http://www.illwillinc.com/97mustang.htm T-Rods Coatings - Custom all the way.... http://www.illwillinc.com/

10-17-2007, 09:07 AM	#2782 (permalink)
2Eighty1 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 361	So I was reading the backlogs of this thread to see what I missed in the month or so hiatus when I was planning on selling the 5.4L - and noticed that someone mentioned Reichard making 3v adapter plates ? Does anyone have any news on this, any photos, anyone using them sucessfully? Any more importatntly - does HPS plan to make a better version ? __________________ 5.4L 3v '04 GT Buildup In Progress... For Photos visit: http://www.whitemustangregistry.com/...AGT-t1625.html

10-17-2007, 09:38 AM	#2783 (permalink)
r3dn3ck Wowbagger hates me too! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Magrathea/California Posts: 6,832	HPS won't be making any more plates... they're not a good enough solution to the problem. I do see a 3v intake sans CMCV's in the future but I've only ever just touched the subject with Bob. I don't know that there are any hard plans to go there. I can't see why not since it's such a great way to add a lot of power and stay with SOHC. I'd say it's a good time to broach the subject with Bob. If you can show there's some interest in the market for a better option than just plates I think people will jump at the idea. The question becomes though do you make the kit centered on 05+ cars, 96-04 cars or adaptable between them? Remember tooling costs serious cash so each design is a major investment. I had to show HPS a good size immediate market along with sustained growth potential for over a year before it started to show financial promise enough to justify the 5.4 intake. Remember, HPS is a business, so while there's a desire to do all these things for the community the realities of commerce interfere. EDIT: I have reichard 2v plates and I've seen their 4v plates. I'd bet the 3v plates are just as nice (which is VERY nice). Hood clearance is going to be fun.

10-17-2007, 01:03 PM	#2784 (permalink)
2Eighty1 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 361	You mentonied that you read on corral about a guy who already had them (3v plates) and the car was running - do you have any information on that ? I searched the site but got nowhere. I don't think hood clearances will be that bad, the 5.4 3v fits under the stock hood (from what Ive read) so a 1" adapter plate shouldn't make things that b