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r3dn3ck · 11-27-2007, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by cdjnight

r3dn3ck any word on the intake manifolds, just curious, motor is really close to being done, just waiting for heads to be shipped back from CNC porting.

I'm not hearing much from bob. THat's normally a good thing. Means he's busy getting the intakes ready. If everything holds to the last guess they should ship shortly after new years.

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Originally Posted by 2Eighty1

Just outa curiosity - what do you guys think my setup is worth on the market right now ?

Is $2,000 reasonable?

Unassembled... I'd say easily 1300 bones.

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Originally Posted by singlesupra

Paypal the same as when I sent the last?

yep

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Originally Posted by proto

would i still be able to keep the accessories like a/c?
I did... same belt but had to do some pulley f00 to get the right size idlers in place. It's no big deal. Do it.

also, does it bolt up to the stock manual transmission in an 04 GT

Sure does. You can keep your clutch and just buy an 03/04 cobra flywheel from d and d, or I have one for sale for 40 + shipping. New old stock. I converted to 10.5" for mine.

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Originally Posted by bassman97

Yes, you can keep the AC but you need the longer belt of the 5.4. And yes, the trans fits since it's the same bellhousing pattern

I think we used my stock belt. It may have been the 2" longer gatorback. Still... least of your worries. My AC still works but I'd definitely pulling it out. So sick of it adding weight and taking away space under the hood. ABS unit is getting deleted too.

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Originally Posted by proto

what about headers and exhaust systems?

FRPP and JBA shorties fit out of the box. BBK don't, Gibson don't, etc... Stock manifolds will do just fine. Longtubes should hit the market in a few months if things go really well.

singlesupra · 11-27-2007, 08:09 AM

Ill paypal you 41+shipping for the buyin of guessing the numbers and the flywheel redn3ck. That other plate also showed up, i happen to drive by my old house and seen it sitting on the front porch.

chip6990 · 11-27-2007, 08:30 AM

i am not in it for the $$$ but i say....316hp/388tq

myillwillinc · 11-27-2007, 08:37 AM

i'm guessing 321hp/376tq

Nightwing · 11-27-2007, 08:48 AM

325hp/370tq

myillwillinc · 11-27-2007, 08:58 AM

r3d, have you tried my setup on your sim? i was hoping(praying) for 350rwhp/400rwtq.

r3dn3ck · 11-27-2007, 09:20 AM

I can.. send me a pm with all the data from your cam card and your compression and I'll zap it up for you. With longtubes you're going to do well.

myillwillinc · 11-28-2007, 10:09 AM

some new pieces to my puzzle....

2Eighty1 · 11-28-2007, 10:15 AM

Anyone looking for 5.4L motor to start your build I've got what you need.

$1,700

http://www.desertmuscle.net/Unassemb...lock-t241.html

I think I'm getting rid of the Mustang now that we are about done moving... Might be going to an LSX based car.

r3dn3ck · 11-28-2007, 10:18 AM

guys.. that's a great deal for the parts he's got. There's almost his whole asking price just in the pistons and rods. Someone snap this up before he has to ebay it. 281... hate to see you ditch the stang man. LMK how things end up.

r3dn3ck · 11-28-2007, 03:34 PM

k... results are in. 279/332 running rich by a full point with no extra timing. numbers seem low but u gotta see the tq curve. there's no curve to it.

singlesupra · 11-28-2007, 09:31 PM

add the timing, should really wake it up by a bit!

myillwillinc · 11-29-2007, 06:29 AM

some timing adjust the a/f and she should really wake up with another 20ish hp.

r3dn3ck · 11-29-2007, 08:05 AM

I'm pretty certain I can crack 300rwhp and 340tq just by cutting out a couple % of fuel and bumping the timing a hair. The baseline tune was intended to be über safe and it was. I'm happy as hell with the baseline pulls showing this much power. That's a good sign. Dyno graph coming in a few minutes.

r3dn3ck · 11-29-2007, 08:50 AM

Bone stock with a mild tune on a 4.6L:

BASELINE tune on the 5.4L:

r3dn3ck · 11-29-2007, 08:53 AM

BTW... I don't even want to get into the whole mustang dyno vs. dynojet dyno debate. Yeah DJ's read a tad higher. That's ok. I'll live with the lowest numbers being enough to make me happy.

2Eighty1 · 11-29-2007, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by r3dn3ck

guys.. that's a great deal for the parts he's got. There's almost his whole asking price just in the pistons and rods. Someone snap this up before he has to ebay it. 281... hate to see you ditch the stang man. LMK how things end up.

Thanks, hope it goes to someone that will finish it off.

I just got approved for my new car loan, and got the blank check from the bank - so I think its almost safe to say that the Mustang is outa here...

myillwillinc · 11-29-2007, 09:20 AM

i have a full day off this weekend. i'm gonna et the headers done so i can get this monster back on the road soon.

myillwillinc · 11-29-2007, 09:23 AM

or - you could use that blank check to finish the mustang........

96blackgt54 · 11-29-2007, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by myillwillinc

i have a full day off this weekend. i'm gonna et the headers done so i can get this monster back on the road soon.

I'm there with ya DUDE!

I finally collected a few more parts to help finish up my install.

reds got me all excited!

2Eighty1 · 11-29-2007, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by myillwillinc

or - you could use that blank check to finish the mustang........

I only wish... although a $500 mod payment on top of a $400 car payment isnt that appealing - haha

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11-27-2007, 08:09 AM	#3092 (permalink)
singlesupra Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 249	flywheel Ill paypal you 41+shipping for the buyin of guessing the numbers and the flywheel redn3ck. That other plate also showed up, i happen to drive by my old house and seen it sitting on the front porch.

11-27-2007, 08:30 AM	#3093 (permalink)
chip6990 Mustang Junkie!!!!!!! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Greeneville, TN Posts: 195	i am not in it for the $$$ but i say....316hp/388tq __________________ *12#'s + 125 shot of*

11-27-2007, 08:37 AM	#3094 (permalink)
myillwillinc Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 651	i'm guessing 321hp/376tq __________________ 5.4 project in progress linky-> http://www.illwillinc.com/97mustang.htm T-Rods Coatings - Custom all the way.... http://www.illwillinc.com/

11-27-2007, 08:58 AM	#3096 (permalink)
myillwillinc Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 651	r3d, have you tried my setup on your sim? i was hoping(praying) for 350rwhp/400rwtq. __________________ 5.4 project in progress linky-> http://www.illwillinc.com/97mustang.htm T-Rods Coatings - Custom all the way.... http://www.illwillinc.com/

11-27-2007, 08:48 AM	#3095 (permalink)
Nightwing Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Kingsport Posts: 47	325hp/370tq

11-27-2007, 09:20 AM	#3097 (permalink)
r3dn3ck Wowbagger hates me too! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Magrathea/California Posts: 7,008	I can.. send me a pm with all the data from your cam card and your compression and I'll zap it up for you. With longtubes you're going to do well. __________________ Built 5.5L 2v and Maximum Motorsports Max Grip box. www.squarerootofone.com My CarDomain Page

11-28-2007, 10:15 AM	#3099 (permalink)
2Eighty1 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 361	Anyone looking for 5.4L motor to start your build I've got what you need. $1,700 http://www.desertmuscle.net/Unassemb...lock-t241.html I think I'm getting rid of the Mustang now that we are about done moving... Might be going to an LSX based car. __________________ 5.4L 3v '04 GT Buildup In Progress... For Photos visit: http://www.whitemustangregistry.com/...AGT-t1625.html Last edited by 2Eighty1 : 11-29-2007 at 09:19 AM.

11-28-2007, 10:18 AM	#3100 (permalink)
r3dn3ck Wowbagger hates me too! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Magrathea/California Posts: 7,008	guys.. that's a great deal for the parts he's got. There's almost his whole asking price just in the pistons and rods. Someone snap this up before he has to ebay it. 281... hate to see you ditch the stang man. LMK how things end up. __________________ Built 5.5L 2v and Maximum Motorsports Max Grip box. www.squarerootofone.com My CarDomain Page

11-28-2007, 03:34 PM	#3101 (permalink)
r3dn3ck Wowbagger hates me too! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Magrathea/California Posts: 7,008	k... results are in. 279/332 running rich by a full point with no extra timing. numbers seem low but u gotta see the tq curve. there's no curve to it. __________________ Built 5.5L 2v and Maximum Motorsports Max Grip box. www.squarerootofone.com My CarDomain Page

11-28-2007, 09:31 PM	#3102 (permalink)
singlesupra Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 249	add the timing, should really wake it up by a bit!

11-29-2007, 06:29 AM	#3103 (permalink)
myillwillinc Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 651	some timing adjust the a/f and she should really wake up with another 20ish hp. __________________ 5.4 project in progress linky-> http://www.illwillinc.com/97mustang.htm T-Rods Coatings - Custom all the way.... http://www.illwillinc.com/

11-29-2007, 08:05 AM	#3104 (permalink)
r3dn3ck Wowbagger hates me too! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Magrathea/California Posts: 7,008	I'm pretty certain I can crack 300rwhp and 340tq just by cutting out a couple % of fuel and bumping the timing a hair. The baseline tune was intended to be über safe and it was. I'm happy as hell with the baseline pulls showing this much power. That's a good sign. Dyno graph coming in a few minutes. __________________ Built 5.5L 2v and Maximum Motorsports Max Grip box. www.squarerootofone.com My CarDomain Page

11-29-2007, 08:50 AM	#3105 (permalink)
r3dn3ck Wowbagger hates me too! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Magrathea/California Posts: 7,008	Bone stock with a mild tune on a 4.6L: BASELINE tune on the 5.4L: __________________ Built 5.5L 2v and Maximum Motorsports Max Grip box. www.squarerootofone.com My CarDomain Page

11-29-2007, 08:53 AM	#3106 (permalink)
r3dn3ck Wowbagger hates me too! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Magrathea/California Posts: 7,008	BTW... I don't even want to get into the whole mustang dyno vs. dynojet dyno debate. Yeah DJ's read a tad higher. That's ok. I'll live with the lowest numbers being enough to make me happy. __________________ Built 5.5L 2v and Maximum Motorsports Max Grip box. www.squarerootofone.com My CarDomain Page

11-29-2007, 09:20 AM	#3108 (permalink)
myillwillinc Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 651	i have a full day off this weekend. i'm gonna et the headers done so i can get this monster back on the road soon. __________________ 5.4 project in progress linky-> http://www.illwillinc.com/97mustang.htm T-Rods Coatings - Custom all the way.... http://www.illwillinc.com/

11-29-2007, 09:23 AM	#3109 (permalink)
myillwillinc Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 651	or - you could use that blank check to finish the mustang........ __________________ 5.4 project in progress linky-> http://www.illwillinc.com/97mustang.htm T-Rods Coatings - Custom all the way.... http://www.illwillinc.com/