I was those but I want the factory one. I want the flex aspect of it plus the holes for the vent hoses etc. I have a WTB on svtperformance. If one of you guys run across one, please let me know. Thanks

 

the problem with any lightning intake i had was to get it under the hood,unless you use the stock intale boot like red did you will have to fab some **** up like i did, i think im gonna get a custom one piece made out of aluminum or stainless next here are a few pic of how mine looked

 

My setup is totally different. I'll take some pics of it. I made a custom rear inlet and used a terminator style elbow and throttle body. The throttle body ended up in the terminator location so my hope was I could use a Cobra cold air kit when it was all said and done. I suppose I could get an inlet tube off of a Cobra, too but I noticed the L one will suit my needs perfectly. I guess I should take a look at the Cobra setup, too.

 

take s pics!!! i want to see the rear exit setup!! i have a mach 2 hood i think its 2 half in cowl is it low enough to fit under something like that?

 

Here it is. No copies without written consent!

 

I have a Cobra R hood and I'm REALLY trying to get this under the hood. The problem I have now is that the snout pulley and te front of the case still hit, but not by much. I will have to get 1/2" K-member spacers and HOPE that that does it. If not, I don't know what else I can do. I even machined the midplate down .300". I know its not much, but through every mod, I get a little closer. If I shut the hood down like you see it in the pic, the fromt of the hood is still about an inch up in the very front. I spent a LOT of time and brainstorming to come up with this. I went through every possible feasible idea to make this work. I think the rear entry setup will work ok since it is just like a termi setup. I opened the back of the case up and radiused the edges etc. so it should flow ok. The termi supercharger is just like this exc. it is cast as all one piece of course. Tell me what you guys think.

 

whose *** do I have to wash to get one of them neato inlets. That's precisely what I've been trying to get made.

BTW... horsey: ******* AWESOME WORK! If you'd create another as a template I think HPS might be convinced to make them. I'll buy one for sure.

 

Not sure how much sleep I lost while brainstorming about this. I do nave more aluminum plate left that I made it out of. I also got a piece of 3x5" aluminum square tube for the back portion. The flange was made out of 1/2" plate using a gasket as a template. LOTS of cutting, die grinding and welding to get this done. My thought was to refine it a little more for outside appearance then make a mold if it so it can be cast in aluminum. It would take a gun to the head to get this one away from me!! I've got too much time in it.

 

If anybody is interested, I'd sell the materials needed to duplicate this and a detailed description on how I did it.

 

what will it take for you to make another for me? How about with the preconception that I may forward it to HPS at some point?

 

Ugh. I cringe at the idea of making another. There's simply no way I'd do it unless there was some jack of a partnership of some kind invloved. I'm not kidding I probably have 20 hours in this plus all of the welding had to be farmed out a piece at a time at a local custom shop. I just don't have the free time on my hands to tackle it unless something seriously swayed me somehow. It would be great to do it with the thought that other people may benefit in the future, but the time and headaches are ever present with this deal. I would however be interested in selling the material and measurements and a detailed description of how I did it to the high bidder.

 

how about just some dimensions and angles and we'll take care of the rest.

 

that is so badass!! i have a fab man and material ,i would love to know more about details !!

 

see horseman... hook us up. If one of us can get them made then at least they're out there.

 

i'm also interested in knowing what the dimensions are would love to have that set up on my car.

 

i have another question, as far as fitment issues with the hood when installing a 5.4, these are all 2,3 valves that we are reading and seeing. would 4 vavle intakes (and obviously heads) surrounding a 5.4 fit under a stock terminator hood? i just keep looking at my engine and i just dont see why a swap like this would constitute me having to cut the hood cuz its 6 inches too high. i even called ford racing and they said that the 5.4 is a little more than an inch taller than a 4.6. i just dont see where the extra 6-8 inches comes from

 

Mine sticks out about 6" as well, I used a 45 Deg Elbow from SIS for my CAI...

 

but is your swap a 2 valve? cuz basically, it seems to me like thats a truck swap.

 

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very nice ! im curious have you had any problems with air leaking out the lower back? i only see bolt holes on the top of the blower? it doesnt look like it was welded to the blower just curious how that works?

 

Your only likely problem is the blower pulley but honestly I don't know how big an issue it would be. You'll want to keep using your blower and heads on your 5.4 I'm betting, so you'll need intake adapter plates (Reichard Racing makes 4v plates) for your manifold. You'll want to call up Maximum Motorsports and get a set of their 1/2" K-member spacer kits. The adapter plates are 1" thick. The spacers give you back 1/2". The motor is an inch taller, so you're at 1.5" taller. If you have 1.75" of clearance to the rim of your blower pulley and all other points under the hood, then you'll clear your stock hood. If not, a Mach 1 hood should probably clear. Just permanently install a scoop or shaker kit.

In most of our cases we used Lightning blower setups on our 2v 5.4s. Generally if you start with a 2v, stick with a 2v. Same goes for 4v. Stay with your existing head setup and the swap becomes stupid easy.

LMK if this did not answer your question.


See above. 2v 5.4's didn't come in a whole lot else. Supercharged 5.4 2v engines only came in Lightnings and F-150 HD (Harley package). Until the S197 chassis Shelby GT500's came out there were no 5.4L mustangs except the unobtanium 2000 Cobra R (a 4v of all things). Having driven all the above, I've never regretted my decision to stay 2v. 4v makes more power though. Can't escape that. If you race dynos they're tops.

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The top and sides are 1/2" plate. The plate just borders on the top and there is 3/16" plate on top. All of the dimensions throughout are as big or bigger that the I.D. of the L top plenum. Yes, it only bolts on the top. As the bolts draw down, it pulls the back tight against the back of the SC housing. I sealed it with a special RTV for 7.3 liter powerstroke diesel oil pans. The oil pan uses this RTV only and no gasket. It dries pretty hard and will resist crankcase vapors etc. and will not squish out. I smoothed it with my finger while it was still wet. PLUS it is dark gray so that works out. The mating surfaces between the plenum and the SC housing are all 1/2" plate so it has 1/2" to seal against. It is strong and will support the weight of the termi plenum and TB no problem. The back box portion is 3x5" rectangle tube. I used a contour gauge to get the back dimention and traced it out on the plate and got to cutting. I fit it all with much patience and a die grinder and burr bit.........little...........by.........little. Have fun!

 

ok cool sounds like a well thought out design! 1 more request,do you have any pics on where you cut the back of the supercharger casing? i notice the plenum has a circular notch in it where it contours around the hump on the back of the case, just would like a reference pic

 

I don't have a pic of that. I opened up the entire back down to the floor of the inlet area and all way to the sides of the inlet area. I used the 1/2" plate on top to increase the open area bec going flat across would have made that dimension too small. Actually the termi supercharger has a little area on top like that if you look into the inlet side.

 

Anyone Building or have a built N/A 5.4 2V???

Starting to look at my 02 Block and Crank sitting in the garage and having thoughts of building a nasty little naturally aspirated motor, There are N/A 4Vs into the 9s at 130+mph but ive yet to see a nasty 5.4 that's N/A

With that in mind i DO NOT want to go backwards, i would want to be close to if not beyond the numbers i would be making with the current motor in the car now at 8 Lbs but N/A with the option to spray it

 

thanx for the reply red. what do you think about a gt500 lower intake? that should negate that xtra inch that the rr adapter plate would have brought right?

 

requires GT500 heads and the GT500 supercharger, intercooler, inlet elbow, etc... I can't predict the costs that way since I don't know of anyone finishing a similar swap yet. Yes it'll work and it won't be a big hassle but the expense could get nasty. At least the heads are getting easier to get hold of.

330Cube, you'll need a set of well ported 4v heads, raised compression and a nice cam set or some wildly ported TFS heads and a really really nasty cam and an extrude honed HPS intake. The best you'll get out of even race ported PI is 330-350rwhp. With a serious port job on the TFS heads you should be able to get in the 400rwhp zone with an appropriate cam and intake work.

Mine was originally going to be NA and may go back there if it doesn't sell. You'll definitely make less power without the blower but nitrous is pretty fun and clearing 500rwhp with an NA+N20 combo isn't to hard. 11:1, FAT cam, HPS intake with a direct port kit inside it. hellz yeah.

 

thanx again red, another question for you. i spoke to a guy at ford racing on the subject of my eaton and a 5.4 clearing a stock 03-04 cobra hood, and he said he didnt see a problem with it cuz the cobra R intake was just as big if not bigger than the eaton supercharger. obviously i would have to lower the engine. so my question is, have you seen a cobra r intake in person and if so, are they (the eaton and the R intake) about the same size?

 

the R intake is indeed huge. I've had the op to mess with them a couple times. It is not as tall as a full eaton setup and it's not as tall where it counts, at the area of tip of the blower snout. the R intake inlet angles down at just the right place to clear the hood.

If you drop the motor 1/2" with the k-member spacers from MM and use plates, I'm pretty sure you'll have a clearance cut in your hood for the blower pulley to poke through but it'd be a fairly small cut. Grab some play-dough and check the clearance on your existing hood to your blower case and blower pulley. Post up the results and I'll be able to be more helpful. There are ways of yanking another 1/4" out if necessary.