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Not swapping. You guys are nuts for trying.
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Not swapping but find the topic interesting.
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Thinking about doing the swap but not in the next year.
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Definitely going to do the swap in the next year or so.
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Doing it now. Looking for an engine or awaiting delivery.
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Doing it now. Already bought an engine.
18.64%
Done. Got my 5.4L and showin my tail lights to camaro's every day.
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Screw 5.4, I'm going diesel 4cylinder.
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Old 07-21-2009, 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by TWIN TURBO
i built a custom sheet metal upper for my L swap so that the throttle body is on the pass side and the blower is fed from the rear works great ran 7.51 so far thru a aodew at 95 witha 1.68 sixty no i dont have pics but my swap is under the hood
please take pics.......
 
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Old 07-22-2009, 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by TWIN TURBO
i built a custom sheet metal upper for my L swap so that the throttle body is on the pass side and the blower is fed from the rear works great ran 7.51 so far thru a aodew at 95 witha 1.68 sixty no i dont have pics but my swap is under the hood
K... how much does it cost for you to make me one? Pics preeeeeeeze
 
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Old 07-22-2009, 01:56 PM
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Man I am so slacking.. I have a 02 5.4 out of a F-150 minus the intake.. I am about to pull the motor out of my 98 gt and sell it.. What all can I or do I need to use off that motor on the 5.4.. I thought I read I can use all the acceseries like pullies, and stuff to swap over.. Please correct me if I am wrong. I will be picking up the HPS 5.4 intake as soon as i have every thing swaped over and bolts down into the car.. So when the intake arrives put it on and start her up.. Am I missing any thing in here?
 
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Old 07-22-2009, 02:05 PM
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you need your oil pan, oil pickup tube, oil filter adapter, accessories and sensors. I'd put your order in for that intake ahead of time or you may be left waiting a couple weeks. They've been getting snapped up pretty quick as the swap gets more popular.
 
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Old 07-22-2009, 02:08 PM
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Waiting is fine.. I am in no hurry .. Well I am but my funds arent lol..
 
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Old 07-22-2009, 02:33 PM
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can anyone tell me how many links are in the 5.4 timing chains? i ordered some from autozone and counted the links to find the uneven amount so i knew where to put them on the cam sprocket and i counted 58 links. so then i tried test fitting them and they didnt fit. then i counted my 4.6 chains and they had 58 also. the chains i ordered were for an f150. i guess they musta ordered the wrong ones. so i took them back and ordered them for a 2000 navi and those ended up being cheaper. hopefully these fit. this is the last thing i need to drop the motor back in.
 
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Old 07-22-2009, 02:52 PM
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Yea R3d I am in no hurry.. Well I am but the wallet aint lol.. Besides the intake is there any thing else I "have" to buy.. I am already getting little things like. Is there any thing else I might be forgeting..

1. Plugs and wires
2. Motor mounts..
 
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Old 07-22-2009, 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Silver281GT
Yea R3d I am in no hurry.. Well I am but the wallet aint lol.. Besides the intake is there any thing else I "have" to buy.. I am already getting little things like. Is there any thing else I might be forgeting..

1. Plugs and wires
2. Motor mounts..

As long as the ones you have are ok, you can reuse them, but I think I'd splurge and buy some plugs
 
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Old 07-22-2009, 04:59 PM
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hey r3d did you find heat exchanger brackets for the lightning set-up or are u making some? if u bought them where from and if u are making some if u make a extra set i will buy from u.
 
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Old 07-22-2009, 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by domin8
hey everyone its been a bit since i've posted but i got a few more mods. put in 30lb injectors from R3dn3ck and also installed a 99 cobra IRS. got a bassani catback for it, koni 5-way SA shocks, MM aluminum difff brace and pinion angle adjuster. Vid and pics:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3AYKun5pbY

the exhaust needs a good bit of adjusting, going to add 2" to the catback before the mufflers and help tuck them up under the car a bit more, also going to spread the pipes apart from under the diff, theyre too close and the pass side rattles on the diff brace at times. thankfully i dont have to drive it much.


see how close it is to the diff brace?

mufflers hang lower than subframe a good 2"


pipes will be spread apart so they can be raised up on either side of the diff more

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This is one fine looking ride. I'd sure be proud to have it parked in my driveway. CONGRATS on a job well done !!!
 
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Old 07-23-2009, 04:50 AM
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well the 5.4 swap has been done for a while still got the damn lifter tick but now something is ratting like exhaust pipe against metal but thats not it cause ive wedged a wooden handle between exhaust and car on both sides to no avail it seems to be coming from the bell housing what inside their can make this sort of rattle i just put a new OEM ford throw out bearing in not more then 5k ago im thinking a clutch disk spring might? it doesnt change when clutch is engaged or disengaged but its loudest under the car with ear right between bellhousing and back of oil pan... i did bend the tabs over in the oil pan that the crank could hit and it didnt start till recently.

im working on 2 projects at once kinda lol the 5.4 stang and putting a 5sp manual in my powerstroke that has an auto so im trying to stay as cheap as possible and get some ideas to what the problem is and it causes no driveability issues

sorry for the horrible gramatic sentence been up for 26 hours and finaly going to bed lol thanks for any replys
 
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Old 07-23-2009, 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted by myillwillinc
call them (205)631-3871
tell them you'll tatto thier shop logo on your azz and name your first born FTP and you might get the next ones out.....


j/k, they already have had some calls/emails about the long tubes...

Any chance you could ceramic coat them?
 
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Old 07-23-2009, 08:02 AM
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you could but why? stainless doesn't rust so why coat them? plus unfortunatly they can't be seen so why spend the cash on a coating nobody will see?
 
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Well I was thinking more along the lines of heat insulation.
 
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Old 07-23-2009, 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Morgan The Black
Well I was thinking more along the lines of heat insulation.

and they will last longer
 
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Old 07-24-2009, 05:46 AM
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stainless will outlive the sheetmetal on the car i guarentee it ;>
 
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Old 07-24-2009, 07:47 AM
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If you want to keep the heat in then header wrap is the ticket. Coatings can only do so much. You need a real thermal conductivity barrier which isn't even always a good idea. For some reason most header companies void product warranties if you use header wrap.

Lightning swap guys: Let's talk vacuum. This is giving me fits. 2vfornow, could you run down the places where the following vacuum nipples on the blower, inlet and midplate connect to:
1. Rear bottom of the lower intake, goes?
2. Driver side of the midplate, goes?
3. Any you capped off?
4. Vaccum to DPFE comes from where?
5. Vacuum/Boost signal to MAP comes from where?

I just got a 90mm L-maf and I found some cool fuel **** (see below). Anyone need a 80mm maf body for a 02+ car?

So, Aeromotive has Part# 15112 and 15115 for 96-04 and 05-10 mustangs. It's a fuel rail pressure sensor adapter. This allows you to run nearly any billet rail setup. I picked one up and it's pretty neato. You will have to understand the difference between -8AN o-ring and -8AN and 3/8" NPT though. Picked up some Aeromotive rails too.
here's the rails:


here's the fuel pressure sensor adapter. It'll be external of the rail after the last injector on mine so I get full fuel pressure at the last injector.
 
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Old 07-24-2009, 07:54 AM
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nice rails, question ? did you paint the lightning intake with auto/clear coat paint or just spray can stuff?
 
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Old 07-24-2009, 07:58 AM
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The blue is caliper paint on the inlet, rattle can on the lower manifold and all the black is rattle can with a clear coat from a rattle can. All the little accent spots like the eaton logo and **** are caliper paint. So, mostly spray but with quite a lot of much better paint.
 
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Old 07-24-2009, 08:11 AM
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i put the fuel pressure sensor on the regulator, per aeromotives suggestion..... but that part looks cool as hell r3d...
 
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Old 07-24-2009, 10:12 AM
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yeah... you damn return style guys. Makin' it hard for the rest of us.
 
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Old 07-24-2009, 11:00 AM
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my lightning swap fuel system is 8 an feed 6 return with a fore perforamance fuel hat twin 255s and 97 ford truck rail that jdm sells works great just set my tune to return style fuel
 
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Old 07-24-2009, 11:01 AM
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I can haz pic of your intake pretty please? You can even mail it to me if needed... I'm offering cash reward for solving my blower inlet problem.
 
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Old 07-24-2009, 11:14 AM
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r3dn3ck i have the returnless setup on my lightning set up and it works great ,nothing hard about it at all ,running a return style really didnt make much sense when fuel rails will solve the whole fuel problem,i put a brass t in between the rail and the pressure sensor fitting so i could hook up my fuel pressure guage,and all of that works best on the back side of the drivers side fuel rail,if you shoot me your email i will email you some vac line pics,but photobucket is a pain in the ***,hopefully should get you going in the right direction, also what are you doing for fuel pumps? im not sure how much hp the stock pump will hold? i put the 04 cobra tank and pumps in mine with kenne bell boost a pump, the aeromotive fuel system was looking good though lol but it was 1700 bucks and on back order for well over a month, also one other prob i had with the swap was the engine coolant sensors are different ford tech told me they have different ohms so they are not interchangable,more on that later
 
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hey r3d did you find heat exchanger brackets for the lightning set-up or are u making some? if u bought them where from and if u are making some if u make a extra set i will buy from u.
 
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Old 07-24-2009, 01:03 PM
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I'm keeping the returnless for now, I still have my filter and showerhead setup so I can run an even split. I have a selection of fuel pump solutions on hand. I have the stocker in it still, and a 03 cobra pump and a SVT focus pump and an A1000 and controller. I'd like to use the big aeromotive pump but I have no clue how to integrate it and no instruction manuals. Yeah I can download em' probably but I'm a lazy ***. Using it will also require the expenditure of another 500 bucks or so, so I'll probably slap the focus pump in it for now. It'll be right on the edge of the pump's capacity and I don't want to put a BAP on it as there are technical problems with that.

I just transferred my old stock sensors over to the lightning intake. Tapped a couple holes here and there. Standard stuff.

Brackets I haven't sorted out yet. I haven't got a FMHE yet though either. They should be easy enough to bang out on a curb from a plate of steel/alum drill correct holes and bango.
 
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R3d, wraps void the warranty because they rust the tubes, since it helps to retain the moisture, instead of evaporating it. That's why ceramic is great. Looks good and does the job of header wrap w/o rusting the pipes out.
 
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Personally I dont really dig header wrap, even if the headers wont rust anyway. But as tight as they're gonna be anyway, I was thinking keeping some of the heat in would be a good idea.
 
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Originally Posted by r3dn3ck
I can haz pic of your intake pretty please? You can even mail it to me if needed... I'm offering cash reward for solving my blower inlet problem.

i can help with this gimme time to get some pics
 
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Old 07-25-2009, 10:08 AM
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very much appreciated.

I got my vacuum situation pretty much settled last night. Need to pick up some minor bits and pieces but I think I have that nailed finally. Took some major re-working or the plastic lines but I got it. I'm assuming the bottom nipple on the boost bypass vavle is the boost side and the upper nipple seems to be vacuum side. The others were all fairly simple to figure out but a bitch to get set up cleanly.

Got my L-maf in the mail yesterday. Just need fuel rails and some fittings to show up. Going out now to get some wiring done and finish my CAI.
 


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