View Poll Results: What are your 5.4L swap plans?
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#8971
05-06-2010, 04:37 PM
Check vacuum leaks and vac line from manifold to wastegate. If you run a boost controller make sure it's not full open or you won't get more than wategate spring minimum boost. Check you maf voltages to see if it's maxing out. It can be helpful to run an ignition box with a boost referenced timing retard. Make sure the BOV isn't leaking.
#8974
05-06-2010, 07:11 PM
I thought I would post an update on my buddies 01 GT.
A couple months ago, we did a 5.4 swap into his 01 GT, basically it is a forged bottom end with only about 9.3:1 on a .020 over bore, ported PI heads, comp 278ah's, HPS intake, bolt ons. In that trim it laid down 310 to the wheels and 335 ft/lbs. (manual trans).
Unfortunatly it was burning oil from the start and it had some issues.
He took it to a different machinist and they sorted out the bottom end issues. But he also got a set of TFS heads. Earlier this week we got it running, and I just talked to him after he took it to the tuner today.
It ended up putting down 375 and almost 400 ft/lbs. to the wheels. I don't have exact rpm ranges but he said it pulled hard all the way to about 6500.
Engine is still being broken in, but I think it did pretty well. I just wonder what it would do with some compression. He plans to throw either a turbo or a centrifugal at it later, so he didn't want the compression over 9.5:1
A couple months ago, we did a 5.4 swap into his 01 GT, basically it is a forged bottom end with only about 9.3:1 on a .020 over bore, ported PI heads, comp 278ah's, HPS intake, bolt ons. In that trim it laid down 310 to the wheels and 335 ft/lbs. (manual trans).
Unfortunatly it was burning oil from the start and it had some issues.
He took it to a different machinist and they sorted out the bottom end issues. But he also got a set of TFS heads. Earlier this week we got it running, and I just talked to him after he took it to the tuner today.
It ended up putting down 375 and almost 400 ft/lbs. to the wheels. I don't have exact rpm ranges but he said it pulled hard all the way to about 6500.
Engine is still being broken in, but I think it did pretty well. I just wonder what it would do with some compression. He plans to throw either a turbo or a centrifugal at it later, so he didn't want the compression over 9.5:1
#8976
05-07-2010, 06:16 AM
Yeah, I got the wideband and the boost gauge on last night. I drove it around and the A/F's are way off/erratic. Under boost it is only 14:1 ish so I'm not gonna push it. I richened up the WOT 6% and it WOT for a few secs and it hung around 12.5ish but it is hard to watch and be at WOT. It makes 12 psi with a 4 lb lower. I will call Rick and we'll talk about it. I may have to save a datalog and sent it so we can get it worked out. When things came together it is REAL torquey. Can't wait to get it dialed in better so I can really try it out. Driveability really sux bec. if you get into a little boost just on normal accel it falls on its face cuz it leans out. Pretty frustrating to drive like that cuz you always have to feather the throttle just to accelerate. It will take a little playing around to get it straightned out which it totally expected I guess. BTW I have NGK TR6's #4177's gapped at .035. That is what the L guys said to do.
Last edited by horspla2000; 05-07-2010 at 06:19 AM.
#8977
05-07-2010, 06:21 AM
horspla2000, what tuning are you going to? I've heard about a lot of good and a lot of bad around here (northeast ohio). I need a place to go to soon.
As far as machine shops, R&R Engine in the Falls is one of the best in the state.
As far as machine shops, R&R Engine in the Falls is one of the best in the state.
#8978
05-07-2010, 09:03 AM
tuning
There is a shop in Norwalk, OH called CRT Performance. They are a SCT dealer and to chassis dyno tuning. I was planning on going there when I do go. I was told by Rick @ Amazon that I wasn "good to go" with this tune, which I found to be wrong. I was kinda under the impression that the mail order tunes were just to get you up and running and that you chassis dyno fine tune from there. Rick said no, this tune was from a very similar setup and was already fine tuned. Well, needless to say, I'll be calling him for a revision. 
#8979
05-07-2010, 11:16 AM
I don't see how a tuner can just give you a tune and say it's fine tuned and ready to go, just because another mustang with similar mods used that same tune. that's what a general mail order tune is, is just a base tune based off the general mods of the car. Norwalk is only 1 hour from me, so I'll check that place out.
#8980
05-07-2010, 12:29 PM
CONGRATS !!!
Tranny bolts right up, also my saleen pulleys, steering pump, A/C, i didn't have to extend any wires. i did have to cut the bottom of my hood for clearance but not all the way through the hood, cut some of the passenger side exhaust flange on the outer side to make it fit and so it wouldn't rub, and had to extend some of the H pipe. The tubular K memeber helps so so so much, and i would recommend it with a swap or without. just putting on my starter by taking the rim off and not getting under the car was nice. I would get the intake adater plates now, trust me, waiting 3 (THREE) months to get them sucked. And don't go off of, "We'll make them soon or in two weeks" heard that for about 3 months straight. If you want to know if it looks good under the hood, ask R3DN3CK, i sent him a pic.
If anyone wants me to send them a pic, let me know your email and i'll send it.
My future mods are the CAMS and the intake r3dn3ck has been talking about. Should be going this weekend to get it dyno/tuned and will post the results.
If anyone wants me to send them a pic, let me know your email and i'll send it.
My future mods are the CAMS and the intake r3dn3ck has been talking about. Should be going this weekend to get it dyno/tuned and will post the results.
Glad to hear it worked out. Yes, please send me some photos to (txbluoval@yahoo.com)
#8981
05-07-2010, 01:58 PM
horspla...when do u plan on getting it dynoed? reason why i ask is cause i bought a + 4 lower blower pulley also but the top pulley is from a harley truck instead of a lightning. i would be looking forward to your dyno numbers because it will determine if i go with 12 or 10 pounds of boost.
thanks for the spark plug info. also thanks for telling me yours r3d.
thanks for the spark plug info. also thanks for telling me yours r3d.
#8982
05-07-2010, 02:52 PM
I thought I would post an update on my buddies 01 GT.
A couple months ago, we did a 5.4 swap into his 01 GT, basically it is a forged bottom end with only about 9.3:1 on a .020 over bore, ported PI heads, comp 278ah's, HPS intake, bolt ons. In that trim it laid down 310 to the wheels and 335 ft/lbs. (manual trans).
Unfortunatly it was burning oil from the start and it had some issues.
He took it to a different machinist and they sorted out the bottom end issues. But he also got a set of TFS heads. Earlier this week we got it running, and I just talked to him after he took it to the tuner today.
It ended up putting down 375 and almost 400 ft/lbs. to the wheels. I don't have exact rpm ranges but he said it pulled hard all the way to about 6500.
Engine is still being broken in, but I think it did pretty well. I just wonder what it would do with some compression. He plans to throw either a turbo or a centrifugal at it later, so he didn't want the compression over 9.5:1
A couple months ago, we did a 5.4 swap into his 01 GT, basically it is a forged bottom end with only about 9.3:1 on a .020 over bore, ported PI heads, comp 278ah's, HPS intake, bolt ons. In that trim it laid down 310 to the wheels and 335 ft/lbs. (manual trans).
Unfortunatly it was burning oil from the start and it had some issues.
He took it to a different machinist and they sorted out the bottom end issues. But he also got a set of TFS heads. Earlier this week we got it running, and I just talked to him after he took it to the tuner today.
It ended up putting down 375 and almost 400 ft/lbs. to the wheels. I don't have exact rpm ranges but he said it pulled hard all the way to about 6500.
Engine is still being broken in, but I think it did pretty well. I just wonder what it would do with some compression. He plans to throw either a turbo or a centrifugal at it later, so he didn't want the compression over 9.5:1
Should be able to compete with the Easy street guys with that power. I would also like to take a look at the set up. I live near Surprise.
#8983
05-07-2010, 03:58 PM
Took some quick pics today (sry for mostly same angle), and got a new exhaust vid. Pics just ran through iphoto , im too lazy to edit.
Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuZlqJ_MWjE
Thoughts, comments?
Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuZlqJ_MWjE
Thoughts, comments?
#8987
05-07-2010, 04:21 PM
Took some quick pics today (sry for mostly same angle), and got a new exhaust vid. Pics just ran through iphoto , im too lazy to edit.
Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuZlqJ_MWjE
Thoughts, comments?
Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuZlqJ_MWjE
Thoughts, comments?
(thanks for posting)
#8988
05-07-2010, 05:17 PM
I thought I would post an update on my buddies 01 GT.
A couple months ago, we did a 5.4 swap into his 01 GT, basically it is a forged bottom end with only about 9.3:1 on a .020 over bore, ported PI heads, comp 278ah's, HPS intake, bolt ons. In that trim it laid down 310 to the wheels and 335 ft/lbs. (manual trans).
Unfortunatly it was burning oil from the start and it had some issues.
He took it to a different machinist and they sorted out the bottom end issues. But he also got a set of TFS heads. Earlier this week we got it running, and I just talked to him after he took it to the tuner today.
It ended up putting down 375 and almost 400 ft/lbs. to the wheels. I don't have exact rpm ranges but he said it pulled hard all the way to about 6500.
Engine is still being broken in, but I think it did pretty well. I just wonder what it would do with some compression. He plans to throw either a turbo or a centrifugal at it later, so he didn't want the compression over 9.5:1
A couple months ago, we did a 5.4 swap into his 01 GT, basically it is a forged bottom end with only about 9.3:1 on a .020 over bore, ported PI heads, comp 278ah's, HPS intake, bolt ons. In that trim it laid down 310 to the wheels and 335 ft/lbs. (manual trans).
Unfortunatly it was burning oil from the start and it had some issues.
He took it to a different machinist and they sorted out the bottom end issues. But he also got a set of TFS heads. Earlier this week we got it running, and I just talked to him after he took it to the tuner today.
It ended up putting down 375 and almost 400 ft/lbs. to the wheels. I don't have exact rpm ranges but he said it pulled hard all the way to about 6500.
Engine is still being broken in, but I think it did pretty well. I just wonder what it would do with some compression. He plans to throw either a turbo or a centrifugal at it later, so he didn't want the compression over 9.5:1
Very nice numbers! Was those numbers done with the same 278 cams?? Either way that is one hellofa gain.
#8989
05-07-2010, 05:43 PM
I thought I would post an update on my buddies 01 GT.
A couple months ago, we did a 5.4 swap into his 01 GT, basically it is a forged bottom end with only about 9.3:1 on a .020 over bore, ported PI heads, comp 278ah's, HPS intake, bolt ons. In that trim it laid down 310 to the wheels and 335 ft/lbs. (manual trans).
Unfortunatly it was burning oil from the start and it had some issues.
He took it to a different machinist and they sorted out the bottom end issues. But he also got a set of TFS heads. Earlier this week we got it running, and I just talked to him after he took it to the tuner today.
It ended up putting down 375 and almost 400 ft/lbs. to the wheels. I don't have exact rpm ranges but he said it pulled hard all the way to about 6500.
Engine is still being broken in, but I think it did pretty well. I just wonder what it would do with some compression. He plans to throw either a turbo or a centrifugal at it later, so he didn't want the compression over 9.5:1
A couple months ago, we did a 5.4 swap into his 01 GT, basically it is a forged bottom end with only about 9.3:1 on a .020 over bore, ported PI heads, comp 278ah's, HPS intake, bolt ons. In that trim it laid down 310 to the wheels and 335 ft/lbs. (manual trans).
Unfortunatly it was burning oil from the start and it had some issues.
He took it to a different machinist and they sorted out the bottom end issues. But he also got a set of TFS heads. Earlier this week we got it running, and I just talked to him after he took it to the tuner today.
It ended up putting down 375 and almost 400 ft/lbs. to the wheels. I don't have exact rpm ranges but he said it pulled hard all the way to about 6500.
Engine is still being broken in, but I think it did pretty well. I just wonder what it would do with some compression. He plans to throw either a turbo or a centrifugal at it later, so he didn't want the compression over 9.5:1
so the only change was to TF heads and he picked up all that power, or was the burning oil robbing him of power also...im trying to gauge what i'll make
#8990
05-07-2010, 06:14 PM
Guys have a favor i need to ask.
So somewhere along the line i got screwed, and ended up with a 10.5 clutch, and a 11" flywheel.
1) Do they make a 10.5 8 bolt flywheel? If so what car's did it come on so i can get one.
2) can i run an 11" clutch on my t-45?
If anyone knows where i can trade someone for one or the other i'd greatly appreciate it. Had the effin eninge on the hoist ready to drop and tried to bolt everything up and am barely off. Reeaalllyyyyyy ruined my weekend.
Thanks for any help guys
So somewhere along the line i got screwed, and ended up with a 10.5 clutch, and a 11" flywheel.
1) Do they make a 10.5 8 bolt flywheel? If so what car's did it come on so i can get one.
2) can i run an 11" clutch on my t-45?
If anyone knows where i can trade someone for one or the other i'd greatly appreciate it. Had the effin eninge on the hoist ready to drop and tried to bolt everything up and am barely off. Reeaalllyyyyyy ruined my weekend.
Thanks for any help guys
#8991
05-08-2010, 09:34 AM
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Magrathea/California
Posts: 9,865
IIRC 96-98 cobra were 10.5" 8 bolt.
Yes, the flywheel is the same diameter really, it's just setup for a wider clutch disc and pressure plate. Uses the same TOB IIRC.
Stalker: Thanks for posting up... I told you guys that the HPS intake would make power if the rest of the combo was right! I also seem to recall telling people that 375/400 was going to be pretty easy to get with off the shelf parts and TFS heads.
If he want's the extra 25hp to make 400rwhp then he may want to keep an eye on the new intake MHS is working on and a set of MHS stage 3.5 TFS head 5.4 cams. 278's are ok but you leave a little bit of power on the table with them. Still, 375/400 is ******' impressive.
Neener to the haters.
Yes, the flywheel is the same diameter really, it's just setup for a wider clutch disc and pressure plate. Uses the same TOB IIRC.
Stalker: Thanks for posting up... I told you guys that the HPS intake would make power if the rest of the combo was right! I also seem to recall telling people that 375/400 was going to be pretty easy to get with off the shelf parts and TFS heads.
If he want's the extra 25hp to make 400rwhp then he may want to keep an eye on the new intake MHS is working on and a set of MHS stage 3.5 TFS head 5.4 cams. 278's are ok but you leave a little bit of power on the table with them. Still, 375/400 is ******' impressive.
Neener to the haters.
#8993
05-08-2010, 03:28 PM
The TFS heads are supposed to be a couple weeks out now. But they have caught up on their orders.
Stanger00, we plan to take a trip out to Speedworld, I don't know about AZs fastest though. I think it should be a deep 12 car easy, but he will be running on reg street tires. With some stickies and a good driver I think it could touch some high 11's. **** mine went 12.54 with 277 wheel.
streeter, with 278 comps.
domin8, the only major parts change was the TFS heads, but there was **** wrong in the bottom though, so yeah the TFS heads made the power, but it had some minor issues already.
r3dn3eck, for sure it did pretty well. There are a few areas that could pick up power; he's running jba shorty headers, its still only 9.5:1, it has crap mufflers, and yeah everything is OTS. But we degree'd the cams, and built everything in his garage and he wan't to just get it going. Plus he's going to just bolt a blower on it later.
Stanger00, we plan to take a trip out to Speedworld, I don't know about AZs fastest though. I think it should be a deep 12 car easy, but he will be running on reg street tires. With some stickies and a good driver I think it could touch some high 11's. **** mine went 12.54 with 277 wheel.
streeter, with 278 comps.
domin8, the only major parts change was the TFS heads, but there was **** wrong in the bottom though, so yeah the TFS heads made the power, but it had some minor issues already.
r3dn3eck, for sure it did pretty well. There are a few areas that could pick up power; he's running jba shorty headers, its still only 9.5:1, it has crap mufflers, and yeah everything is OTS. But we degree'd the cams, and built everything in his garage and he wan't to just get it going. Plus he's going to just bolt a blower on it later.
#8994
05-08-2010, 06:52 PM
1996... The 99 and 2000 gt's have 8 bolt flywheels setup for the 10.5" clutch. I decided to swap to the 11". 04' cobra aluminum flywheel and 11" clutch. Im sorry I already chunked my 10.5 clutch and matching flywheel!
#8996
05-09-2010, 11:20 AM
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Magrathea/California
Posts: 9,865
There is now a way to use GT500 blowers on Lightning manifolds. This looks like it might just fit under a 4" hood but may still protrude at the blower snout.
http://www.nloc.net/vbforum/gen-2-li...st1913582.html
The kit is 915 bucks + shipping and requires you to also buy a GT500 compressor and inlet.
http://www.nloc.net/vbforum/gen-2-li...st1913582.html
The kit is 915 bucks + shipping and requires you to also buy a GT500 compressor and inlet.
#8999
05-10-2010, 05:45 AM
Guys, if anyone has their old 8 bolt 10.5 flywheel layin around, let me know and i'll be more than happy to paypal that guy off your hands!!!!
#9000
05-10-2010, 08:57 AM
I don't see how a tuner can just give you a tune and say it's fine tuned and ready to go, just because another mustang with similar mods used that same tune. that's what a general mail order tune is, is just a base tune based off the general mods of the car. Norwalk is only 1 hour from me, so I'll check that place out.
Thats what I thought but he said no. It is "tunes for life" with free revisions etc. Seems like it's gonna be a pain and not worth it. Chassis dyno tune costs more but probably worth it.