View Poll Results: What are your 5.4L swap plans?
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#4473
hmm
really...
well im still in the lost of how navigator heads suck?
and cant the lower of a cobra attach to the Navi heads??
Explain how they suck please? not cause im trying to argue, i just want to know your opinions and reason behind this as it interests me lol, and may make me aware of some issues i dont know about
Thanks
Zink
well im still in the lost of how navigator heads suck?
and cant the lower of a cobra attach to the Navi heads??
Explain how they suck please? not cause im trying to argue, i just want to know your opinions and reason behind this as it interests me lol, and may make me aware of some issues i dont know about
Thanks
Zink
#4474
The cobra lower will bolt up but the intake's ports are much smaller than the ports in the heads.
The Navi heads can be made to flow but they must be enlarged to do so. This makes their already large ports even bigger which kills velocity.
I just spec'd some cams for a motor that made 490rwhp n/a with a break-in tune. It's a 322 that used 03/04 heads. Check out page 82 of the latest 5.0 mustang and you will see the article on it.
The Navi heads can be made to flow but they must be enlarged to do so. This makes their already large ports even bigger which kills velocity.
I just spec'd some cams for a motor that made 490rwhp n/a with a break-in tune. It's a 322 that used 03/04 heads. Check out page 82 of the latest 5.0 mustang and you will see the article on it.
Last edited by na svt; 07-17-2008 at 04:31 PM.
#4475
ya... i was just reading that article lol
thats a beast of a blower though...
i wonder what the price tag is...
i started reading alot more into the navi heads... guess i will sell them for 400$ or so...
and get cobra heads...
are you building a 5.4 4 valve?? with the cobra intake on top? and a blower? roots style blower?
thats a beast of a blower though...
i wonder what the price tag is...
i started reading alot more into the navi heads... guess i will sell them for 400$ or so...
and get cobra heads...
are you building a 5.4 4 valve?? with the cobra intake on top? and a blower? roots style blower?
#4476
Nope, none of the above, but I am spec'ing some cams for a Whipple cjarged 322 with 03/04 heads and also a 324 that has a stock intake and 03/04 heads.
#4479
4v
well, i put the heads up for sale on corral, so if they sell they sell if not then i will keep them....
6 one way half a dozen another... if they dont sell i will build them up and use them if they do sell i will then go buy 03/04 cobra heads, and then build them up...
cause being able to use on 03/04 cobra intake manifold, and superchargers for that and all other interchangeable parts there are for the 03/04 means my options are endless....
And it would be relatively cheap to do this as well...
6 one way half a dozen another... if they dont sell i will build them up and use them if they do sell i will then go buy 03/04 cobra heads, and then build them up...
cause being able to use on 03/04 cobra intake manifold, and superchargers for that and all other interchangeable parts there are for the 03/04 means my options are endless....
And it would be relatively cheap to do this as well...
#4482
anyone know the height diff between the kenne bell 2.6 vrs. stock lightning blower. the kenne bell intake is on the side instead of on top like the lightning blower. may help a little for hood clearance for guys wanting pd plower.
#4483
was wondering this....
but if someone has had one previously would be nice... might actually be faster to get an answer in a 03/04 cobra section....
#4486
http://store.summitracing.com/egnsea...115+4294924666
looking at buying some of these if they will fit....motor should be done in a few days
looking at buying some of these if they will fit....motor should be done in a few days
#4487
I've got my long block together, I've got the cam's degree'd and the right (passenger) side cam was off by about 9 degrees, and the left (drivers) side was only off by 2 degrees. On a side note, I bought new OEM ford chains and they had two marked links on one end and one marked link on the other, I can only assume this is to make up for it being a odd number of links, I think this was covered before.
The insurance adjuster just came by this morning, and since I'm gonna have most of my car apart, I'm tempted to go ahead and swap it in, but like everyone else I need an intake, so its either wait... or drop the cash for adapters and a PI intake, which I dont want to do.
The insurance adjuster just came by this morning, and since I'm gonna have most of my car apart, I'm tempted to go ahead and swap it in, but like everyone else I need an intake, so its either wait... or drop the cash for adapters and a PI intake, which I dont want to do.
#4488
First things first! I got to get my colon removed! This project would have been done back in April, if it had not be for Ulcerative Colitis. Stupid colon, stupid UC.
#4489
My project went on hold and then I found a 2005 GT with a Vortech. I ended up getting that instead and with the 3V I think I will be much happier in the long term. I will start actually looking for a bottem end here again soon and I think I will go to 5.4 with the Vortech. Should make a pretty kick *** DD when I am done.
David
David
#4490
where i stand
Well i bought a TR6060 to put in,
Navi heads, sitting at the house, need to send them off to get ported polished and port together, the block, pistons crank, rods, all sitting in my kitchen floor, hood is in the garage...
im in Iraq...
4 months or so tell i get to play with it all
thinking im giong to put the 4v adapter plates on and run the o3/04 cobra super charger and intake. How much boost can i run with this? 20 PSI or will it stop at like 12-13 before the seals break?
Navi heads, sitting at the house, need to send them off to get ported polished and port together, the block, pistons crank, rods, all sitting in my kitchen floor, hood is in the garage...
im in Iraq...
4 months or so tell i get to play with it all
thinking im giong to put the 4v adapter plates on and run the o3/04 cobra super charger and intake. How much boost can i run with this? 20 PSI or will it stop at like 12-13 before the seals break?
#4492
trans help....
TR6060 into 99 GT
so my questions are has anyone done this swap?
It will bolt up, But its like a T-56 on steriods so you have to cut part of the Trans tunnel out correct?
Also have to move the shifter back and cut out part of the center console.
Now, here is my idea....
I cut out the Trans tunnel, get some new pieces of metal roll them a little to fit... Tack them on ... then looks good weld them in, to make my trans tunnel wider, for this trans...
Problem 2 that i have few ideas for is the center console... the only reall idea i have, is to make a center console out of wood and carpet the center console to match my current carpet of the car, and take the cup holder plastic pieces, and defroster, and place that on the new carpet center console.
Or what about a fiberglass center console that is the color of the outside of the car. Outisde of car is a dark green inside is tan leather seats tan carpet... so i think the fiberglass thing would be awesome just dont know who i could have do it...
thoughts... or tips??
so my questions are has anyone done this swap?
It will bolt up, But its like a T-56 on steriods so you have to cut part of the Trans tunnel out correct?
Also have to move the shifter back and cut out part of the center console.
Now, here is my idea....
I cut out the Trans tunnel, get some new pieces of metal roll them a little to fit... Tack them on ... then looks good weld them in, to make my trans tunnel wider, for this trans...
Problem 2 that i have few ideas for is the center console... the only reall idea i have, is to make a center console out of wood and carpet the center console to match my current carpet of the car, and take the cup holder plastic pieces, and defroster, and place that on the new carpet center console.
Or what about a fiberglass center console that is the color of the outside of the car. Outisde of car is a dark green inside is tan leather seats tan carpet... so i think the fiberglass thing would be awesome just dont know who i could have do it...
thoughts... or tips??
#4495
hey guys sorry about being gone from the boards so much... I'm working 2 full time jobs and putting in a lot of phone time getting the header project finished.
INTAKE UPDATE: Bob and the boys down at HPS had a minor setback when one of their key contributors got hurt. They're back on track and I should hopefully get some more info in the next several days. At least the first run is finally done. We should be seeing pics and all kinds of coolness in the near future.
HEADER UPDATE: Headers are being worked on...still. This is likely to take a while. Fitting them for auto and manual without a tubular k-member is a huge task.
Question for longtube candidates: if using longtubes on your 5.4L 2v requires you to convert to a tubular k-member (you can still use stock springs and shocks with the correct AJE k-member so coil over is an option not a mandate) does it substantially change your level of commitment to doing longtubes on your project? Even if the longtubes can net you say 30rwhp over shorties?
The above is totally hypothetical and is just to answer a question posed by the shop making the headers.
bakin: use foam and foil to make a mold and do it up. If mixing the resin isn't something you've done before ask someone who has for tips... he'll give you a book full of them. Roll the air out of every layer of glass or you'll be hatin life. Other than that, get wild. I like the concept as long as it's well executed. Getting it well painted is usually the hard part. To have it made, visit your local auto-stereo shop (a good one, not good guys or best buy) and ask them. They do custom speaker boxes at most good shops. Figure on several hundred bucks plus paint cost to have it made or about a hundred + paint to make it yourself.
INTAKE UPDATE: Bob and the boys down at HPS had a minor setback when one of their key contributors got hurt. They're back on track and I should hopefully get some more info in the next several days. At least the first run is finally done. We should be seeing pics and all kinds of coolness in the near future.
HEADER UPDATE: Headers are being worked on...still. This is likely to take a while. Fitting them for auto and manual without a tubular k-member is a huge task.
Question for longtube candidates: if using longtubes on your 5.4L 2v requires you to convert to a tubular k-member (you can still use stock springs and shocks with the correct AJE k-member so coil over is an option not a mandate) does it substantially change your level of commitment to doing longtubes on your project? Even if the longtubes can net you say 30rwhp over shorties?
The above is totally hypothetical and is just to answer a question posed by the shop making the headers.
bakin: use foam and foil to make a mold and do it up. If mixing the resin isn't something you've done before ask someone who has for tips... he'll give you a book full of them. Roll the air out of every layer of glass or you'll be hatin life. Other than that, get wild. I like the concept as long as it's well executed. Getting it well painted is usually the hard part. To have it made, visit your local auto-stereo shop (a good one, not good guys or best buy) and ask them. They do custom speaker boxes at most good shops. Figure on several hundred bucks plus paint cost to have it made or about a hundred + paint to make it yourself.
#4500
TR6060
Already ditched the TR6060, lol moves the shifter 5 inches back... i think it would be awesome... cept for one thing.... i need a custom drive shaft and all too... so im just going to do a MMR pro Trans 900 or a Viper spec T-56...
i got Navi heads still though lol....
my stage II heads sold already, that were 2 valve...
need to figure out what timing cover im going to need....
i got Navi heads still though lol....
my stage II heads sold already, that were 2 valve...
need to figure out what timing cover im going to need....