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View Poll Results: What are your 5.4L swap plans?
Not swapping. You guys are nuts for trying.
1.82%
Not swapping but find the topic interesting.
12.73%
Thinking about doing the swap but not in the next year.
16.82%
Definitely going to do the swap in the next year or so.
25.45%
Doing it now. Looking for an engine or awaiting delivery.
15.45%
Doing it now. Already bought an engine.
18.64%
Done. Got my 5.4L and showin my tail lights to camaro's every day.
7.73%
Screw 5.4, I'm going diesel 4cylinder.
1.36%
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Old Jun 14, 2009 | 02:34 PM
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hold on might be getting an 8 bolt flywheel, clutch disc, and pressure plate for $100
 
Old Jun 14, 2009 | 03:21 PM
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***** if you get on their site click catalog, then click on air intake components (modular) then choose what size piping all the way up to 4 inches,if you click accessories i think the silicone coupling that they carry are in there i know they have the oval to round silicone coupling in there, if thats of no help call them and ask for guy smith he knows his **** ,he can help you with anything you need, you can even run multiple air filters, if you can dream it they have the stuff to build it, but if you call guy and tell him what your doing he can hook you up
 
Old Jun 14, 2009 | 06:04 PM
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it isn't listed as silicon, u think it can take boost?
 
Old Jun 14, 2009 | 07:19 PM
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Technical Support

www.speedbyspectre.com
guy@spectreperformance.com
909-673-9800 ext.324
i know they have it and it is silicone,give them a call ,im sure they are strong enought to hold boost,but its always safe to double check,if not call c&l intakes ,thats whats im running and they hold up great
 
Old Jun 15, 2009 | 09:59 AM
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just talked to guy and no go, he said the ocal ford one isn't silicon and is for NA apps only. i guess c&l will get a call...
 
Old Jun 15, 2009 | 03:43 PM
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would someone PLEASE provide a complete list of the things you get when tearing apart/swapping engines. im talking gaskets, retainers, valve springs, timing chains, timing cover, etc. and also where to get said iitems
 
Old Jun 15, 2009 | 04:43 PM
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thats sucks, well c&l is the way to go then,i have an old order book and spectre has all kinds of silicone **** ,and it was on their web page to, but they dont even have any silicone on the page anymore? guess they quit dealing with it,sorry will
 
Old Jun 15, 2009 | 05:20 PM
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ok doing complete rebuild? if so


themustangdepot.com
forged H beam rods for 5.4

online stores local stores ebay


Hard rod bearings these are sold at summitracing same as mains for size
Hard Main bearings same standard or oversized depending whats need
New forged or hypertunic pistons depending what ur gona do with the car? DD or blown DD with lotsa get up and go. standard or oversized depending on machine work needed
New Oil Pan gasket - are reusable but always nice to have new ;>
4.6L oil pan original or a canton baffles need to be modified so the crank doesnt touch them
Head Gaskets
Comp Beehive springs if upgrading cams
Comp steel or titanium retainers if upgrading
Cushman/Comp/Hi-Tech Cams if upgrading iam personaly staying N/A went Cushman stage 2 N/A cams
Valve Stem Seals (Viton i beleive)
New timing chains/guides/tensioners/tensioner arms "200$ at rockauto.com for all"
Check your trigger wheel its infront of crank chain sprocket for signs of chains hitting it if they have buy new
New Head Bolts or headstuds never need new bolts again
New Valve cover gaskets
New Crank Pulley Bolt or i beleive ARP makes a non replacement needed bolt
Timing Cover gaskets
Adapter plates or HPS 5.4 hardballer intake
PI intake if adapters are bought
Piston Rings standard or oversized depending whats done to block.
New freeze plugs in engine/heads
New cam sprockets for timing
new Cam sprocket bolts since they are TTY
new rear main seal
new timing cover crank pully seal
new crank shims if needed
those cam with my rear main seal i beleive or maybe my bearings.
lots of RTV gasket maker to get extra cofidence with most gaskets/seals ;>
new Intake gaskets if urs look a little bad
new top of intake to plenum gaskets
new oil filter adapter/water adapter to block gaskets or seals
8bolt flywheel for a manual or flexplate for auto if you do not have one


thats all i can remember at the moment im sure theres more ;>

found 95% of these items at summitracing.com rockauto.com and ebay ;>
 
Old Jun 15, 2009 | 10:50 PM
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Got my car back today guys feels pretty strong and it only has the stock timing I had a base tune put in it so I can drive around I can't wait to get it all broken in so I can really rev it out thanks a lot guys you've been a lot of help
 
Old Jun 15, 2009 | 11:32 PM
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pics of stang......
 
Old Jun 15, 2009 | 11:49 PM
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I'll take some and put them up as soon as I can
 
Old Jun 16, 2009 | 12:26 AM
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update on my 97.

4.6l out
5.4 ready to in once i pic up motor mounts tomorrow hopefully have it in wednesday if we dont start the plant at work till thurs right now its a debate between wed or thurs lol

5.4L is NPI Bottom end PI top end with a set of cushman stage 2 NA cams probaly get it up and running wedns putz it to work thurs for lil break in then get an appt to get it on the dyno for a tune

cylinder walls werent worked just replaced the rings so break in should be shorter i presume pretty much replaced rings with a bearing and timing overhaul so how long should i take it easy on it?
 
Old Jun 16, 2009 | 06:09 AM
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500 miles to break everything in.....
 
Old Jun 16, 2009 | 06:10 AM
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Originally Posted by 97gtstang
update on my 97.

4.6l out
5.4 ready to in once i pic up motor mounts tomorrow hopefully have it in wednesday if we dont start the plant at work till thurs right now its a debate between wed or thurs lol

5.4L is NPI Bottom end PI top end with a set of cushman stage 2 NA cams probaly get it up and running wedns putz it to work thurs for lil break in then get an appt to get it on the dyno for a tune

cylinder walls werent worked just replaced the rings so break in should be shorter i presume pretty much replaced rings with a bearing and timing overhaul so how long should i take it easy on it?

So you just replaced the rings? Did you hone the walls?
 
Old Jun 16, 2009 | 10:18 AM
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Hay guys I have a set of RR dohc 5.4l - 4.6l adapter plates in new condition up for sale. Comes with oem gaskets and all the needed hardware.

best way to get in contact with me is my email addy sonnyhouston000@gmail.com. shoot me a price!
 
Old Jun 16, 2009 | 11:19 AM
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yes i honed the walls ;>
 
Old Jun 16, 2009 | 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by zigbigadoru
hold on might be getting an 8 bolt flywheel, clutch disc, and pressure plate for $100

Sounds like a real sweet deal to me.
 
Old Jun 16, 2009 | 09:20 PM
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Thanks r3d! you're the greatest!


Got the car out................ .........and a full tank of bad gas I should have known better.
 
Old Jun 17, 2009 | 04:35 AM
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Originally Posted by 97gtstang
yes i honed the walls ;>
Just making sure
 
Old Jun 17, 2009 | 05:27 AM
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nah u thought i was a damn hillbilly and just threw the dang thing together with some bailing wire and duct tape didnt ya ;> lol just got the new motor mounts on but just got off work to working 6pm to 6am so going to bed for 5 hrs or so then wake up go get my pilot bearing install the clutch and if my dad will help try and slam this puppy in then put the intake on tomorrow morning hook up all the wiring and see if we can get er to pop off

have a good one folks pics/maybe a vid if my digi cam does decent vids after startup
 
Old Jun 17, 2009 | 08:06 AM
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naw... I thought you was a hillbilly. Just playin but, damn that was funny as hell!


5.4GT: Thanks for posting that! I'm sure one of the guys will be going 4v soon enough.

96: enjoy in good health.
 
Old Jun 17, 2009 | 02:52 PM
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well guys, i just got word i will be leaving sooner then thought.... and i will not have time to complete my build so i am parting it all out before i have to leave.. so if anyone is interested in doing a 5.4 DOHC build... message me if you need some parts... most of my stuff is high performance pieces... from heads to rotating assembly...

god this sucks
 
Old Jun 17, 2009 | 03:31 PM
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shakin what you got?

and update my engine is being shipped out tomorrow i just called kar kraft. it should be here next week then there will be another 5.4 terror on the road.
 
Old Jun 17, 2009 | 04:08 PM
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Big items are:
a forged crank shaft, Manley pistons with -18cc dish, manley rods with ARP 2000 hardware. All of this has been balanced and i have the balancing sheet for it...

Navi heads - Stage 3 ported and polished by MMR, still in the boxes from them, i bought them brand new and had them seat, and assemble them all.

i think i have 30lb injectors, a BBK throttle body thats new, a billet steel oil pump, a 04 cobra fuel tank, with dual super car pumps. a T56 with a 31/26 spline ... **** i know i got alot more at the house lol... some 98 cobra cams... ohh a DSS main support system, a oil pan from MMR that has atleast 2 i think 3 oil bungs welded into it... its the 7qt one they have its silver, also got a windage tray...
 
Old Jun 17, 2009 | 05:41 PM
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If anyone needs a 4.6 intake, ported adapter plates, 42lb injectors, and billlit fuel rails, I will sell them all as a package. I'm getting ready to put my Victor JR on soon. I sawed it in two the other day, ouch.....brand new out of the box. LOL.
 
Old Jun 17, 2009 | 08:29 PM
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shakin, what you askin on the t56?
 
Old Jun 18, 2009 | 06:29 AM
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Mywillinc,
Here is the story on the T-56, I bought this from a guy, who had it in his cobra, he had the transmission supposibly rebuilt by DnD, and thats when he had the 31/26 put in it. It had about 2,000 miles on the rebuild, the guy got rid of it to go with an automatic. So it came with 2 fly wheels, 2 clutches, an aluminum driveshaft, and the transmission.
I think i paid 2500 for it, and i was looking to get around that for it.. I live in england so I have a guy that can do the shipping back to the united states, and I was going to pay for part of the shipping so if i get 2500 for it, i will probably pay for a good 300-400 dollars of the shipping. which would get it back to the US, and maybe a few dollars towards shipping it to there house.
 
Old Jun 18, 2009 | 07:51 AM
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shakin... you going where I think you're going?
 
Old Jun 18, 2009 | 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by r3dn3ck
shakin... you going where I think you're going?
eventually... yes again...

and i dont have time to get the car up and running before i leave... so they will not ship it back to the states... so im kind of like **** ... im going to be out a couple grand...
so i have to sell like everything... hoping i can sell the car as a rolling chassis for like 1000-1500 in england...
 
Old Jun 18, 2009 | 08:42 AM
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maybe you can sell it as a whole to someone wanting a project.


- or you send a couple plane tickets and some of us will fly out there and finish it for ya......
 

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