View Poll Results: What are your 5.4L swap plans?
Voters: 220. You may not vote on this poll
Anyone intrested in 5.4L swaps, in here. Need you to opine.
#6901
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/97-98...1%7C240%3A1318
engine for cheap for those looking for a forged crank.
engine for cheap for those looking for a forged crank.
$ 1450.00 min for something that needs to be torn down, cleaned up and rebuilt. I don't have the tools or mechanical knowlege to do it, so that would mean sending it to a shop.
Can get a new 5.4 shortblock will all forged internals from MMR as low as $2600 + shipping (personally I live @ 100 miles away so I'd just go pick it up)
#6903
hey all gona hopefully be dropping the 5.4 in this weekend dont know for sure since wpparts doesnt send out shipping info on their ebay orders for my rods. but just wondering iam gona be using a single hook engine hoist with chain to lift the eng. where is everyone lifting at or with and do you usualy put it in w/o the intake and such?.....im used to engines with pull brackets on them and this on doesnt not so just curious...
also gota know this to get the 4.6 outa the car ;x oh the fun of swaps
also gota know this to get the 4.6 outa the car ;x oh the fun of swaps
#6904
hey all gona hopefully be dropping the 5.4 in this weekend dont know for sure since wpparts doesnt send out shipping info on their ebay orders for my rods. but just wondering iam gona be using a single hook engine hoist with chain to lift the eng. where is everyone lifting at or with and do you usualy put it in w/o the intake and such?.....im used to engines with pull brackets on them and this on doesnt not so just curious...
also gota know this to get the 4.6 outa the car ;x oh the fun of swaps
also gota know this to get the 4.6 outa the car ;x oh the fun of swaps
take the intake off and bolt the chain across from teh alt bolts to the bolts on the head where the water tube goes. works like a charm.
#6905
cool thanks again *****....now im gona list everything i beleive i have you tell me if what im missing....sounds like a fun game no? this is starting from the ground up bare block to fully assembled for parts i need/have
Things i have....Engine came out of 97 F-150 fully assembled long block
Block/forged Crank/forged Rods/stock Pistons/Piston Rings/All Rod-Main Bearings/Reuseable oil pan gasket from 5.4...correct?/4.6 Oil Pan/water passage plugs for side of engine/Head Gaskets/Head Bolts/new timing components/rear main seal/Crank Pully/4.6L 4V HP or high volume cant remember oil pump/timing cover gaskets/4.6L water pump/Alternator/PS pump/AC Pump/Pulleys/Tensioner/PI Intake W/Adapter Plates/intake gasket set...need 4 gaskets??? or how do you seal adapter plates?/all intake parts from my 4.6/4.6l exhaust manifolds/
cranks in block and plastigauged the mains .002-.003 in oil clearance bout right on with haynes manual specs
heres where the game begins ;>
Need?
PI Heads/rear of waterpump water tube and o-ring...or reusuable from my 4.6?/plates for EGR delete/drill and tap sizes for 2nd water temp sensor think i got a 1/8 NPT/.
aight ready set GO make my pocket book cringe at what im forgeting MOTOR will be running N/A
Things i have....Engine came out of 97 F-150 fully assembled long block
Block/forged Crank/forged Rods/stock Pistons/Piston Rings/All Rod-Main Bearings/Reuseable oil pan gasket from 5.4...correct?/4.6 Oil Pan/water passage plugs for side of engine/Head Gaskets/Head Bolts/new timing components/rear main seal/Crank Pully/4.6L 4V HP or high volume cant remember oil pump/timing cover gaskets/4.6L water pump/Alternator/PS pump/AC Pump/Pulleys/Tensioner/PI Intake W/Adapter Plates/intake gasket set...need 4 gaskets??? or how do you seal adapter plates?/all intake parts from my 4.6/4.6l exhaust manifolds/
cranks in block and plastigauged the mains .002-.003 in oil clearance bout right on with haynes manual specs
heres where the game begins ;>
Need?
PI Heads/rear of waterpump water tube and o-ring...or reusuable from my 4.6?/plates for EGR delete/drill and tap sizes for 2nd water temp sensor think i got a 1/8 NPT/.
aight ready set GO make my pocket book cringe at what im forgeting MOTOR will be running N/A
Last edited by 97gtstang; 05-11-2009 at 09:12 PM.
#6907
cool didnt know if i had to get a new water tube or if they are press formed onto the nipple on block. and just ordered my heads set of 01 Lincoln Towncar Windsor heads to go with my windsor valve covers lol now hopefully my rods/oil pump show up and we can start assembly this week ;>
Last edited by 97gtstang; 05-12-2009 at 09:12 AM.
#6908
As far as that 2nd temp sensor goes, unless you have the drill and tap already. I'd just pay someone to do it, I think I looked at the drill bit and it was like $15 and I didnt even bother looking for a tap. 3/8NPT and a 9/16 drill bit. I paid the machine shop $10
#6913
I was thinking about this last night and my mind reminded me something, that engine could have been a PI engine! I only assumed it was a NPI because of the aluminum intake, but I forgot that Ford made a few PI aluminum intakes in '99 and I never checked the year of the truck! DANG!
Maybe I need to go back!
#6914
Any word on the new intake manifold(s) ... ???
#6915
Which intake are you referring to? Because the 2v manifold is already available. A 3v intake would be sweet, but who knows if they will ever start making those.
#6916
well tomorrow i might try and get a set of 04 lincoln town car heads but they say the front end took a heavey blow enough to break the timing gear...think i still should? maybe smashed in the front pinched the chain and the crank ripped the gear down? if not 5.4 will be put on hold for another 2 weeks
#6917
well tomorrow i might try and get a set of 04 lincoln town car heads but they say the front end took a heavey blow enough to break the timing gear...think i still should? maybe smashed in the front pinched the chain and the crank ripped the gear down? if not 5.4 will be put on hold for another 2 weeks
I mean PI heads aren't hard to come by.
#6918
EDIT: Officially selling my HPS intakes and a few other bits. Get your savings while you can. NOTE: it will take me several days to pull the intake. If you're in a hurry I'll pay a buddy of mine to come over and get it done but there will be an extra charge of 50 bucks for the rush (unless you're one of my special cases, then we'll talk offline). Otherwise you wait 7-14 days for shipping. Sorry... I'm a busy guy lately.
Selling my HPS intakes. Got a lightning supercharger on the way. Prices are pretty firm but if you're one of my special cases I may make you a special deal. Never hurts to ask. Prices include shipping to the lower 48. I will ship to canada or mexico but not many other countries.
HPS 5.4L 2v PI intake. Lightly ported to smooth transitions and get rid of casting lines. Port matched to a stage 2 head. Good for 15+hp or more over a PI intake on a 5.4. Direct bolt on fits under stock hoods. $540 shipped to the lower 48
HPS 4.6L 2v PI intake. This was a prototype intake so there are a few non-standard details: bolt holes for head mating surfaces are a little oversized (not a problem unless you use it with adapter plates on a 5.4L and then it gets a little sloppy, on a 4.6 it's a bitchin easy fit). It's been extensively ported and made sick power on my 5.4. The runner towers have been cut down and bell mouthed for better flow, the inlet to the plenum has been ported and tapered and the runner outlets have been port matched to a stage 2 head. There's over 50 hours of porting work in this damned thing. This is also the unit that was the basis of the 5.4 intake's design and proved that it would make a difference over the PI intake for less than a reichard. This is the one that started it all! $450 shipped.
Pro-Prod 75mm TB. Works great, easy bolt on. $100 shipped
Pro-Prod Upper Plenum. Worked over a little bit but mostly stock bolts right up, flows great. $100 shipped.
30lbs injectors. Recently cleaned and given new pintle caps and o-rings top and bottom. $100 shipped or trade for 42's.
Ported stock upper plenum. Extensively reworked. Roof raised and the floor raised and radiused into the short side turn for better flow. Best for a nitrous or NA car. Primed and ready for paint. Best Offer
Please reply in my for sale thread in the classified section. Let's keep this side for discussion of the swap and our lives as swappers.
Selling my HPS intakes. Got a lightning supercharger on the way. Prices are pretty firm but if you're one of my special cases I may make you a special deal. Never hurts to ask. Prices include shipping to the lower 48. I will ship to canada or mexico but not many other countries.
HPS 5.4L 2v PI intake. Lightly ported to smooth transitions and get rid of casting lines. Port matched to a stage 2 head. Good for 15+hp or more over a PI intake on a 5.4. Direct bolt on fits under stock hoods. $540 shipped to the lower 48
HPS 4.6L 2v PI intake. This was a prototype intake so there are a few non-standard details: bolt holes for head mating surfaces are a little oversized (not a problem unless you use it with adapter plates on a 5.4L and then it gets a little sloppy, on a 4.6 it's a bitchin easy fit). It's been extensively ported and made sick power on my 5.4. The runner towers have been cut down and bell mouthed for better flow, the inlet to the plenum has been ported and tapered and the runner outlets have been port matched to a stage 2 head. There's over 50 hours of porting work in this damned thing. This is also the unit that was the basis of the 5.4 intake's design and proved that it would make a difference over the PI intake for less than a reichard. This is the one that started it all! $450 shipped.
Pro-Prod 75mm TB. Works great, easy bolt on. $100 shipped
Pro-Prod Upper Plenum. Worked over a little bit but mostly stock bolts right up, flows great. $100 shipped.
30lbs injectors. Recently cleaned and given new pintle caps and o-rings top and bottom. $100 shipped or trade for 42's.
Ported stock upper plenum. Extensively reworked. Roof raised and the floor raised and radiused into the short side turn for better flow. Best for a nitrous or NA car. Primed and ready for paint. Best Offer
Please reply in my for sale thread in the classified section. Let's keep this side for discussion of the swap and our lives as swappers.
#6921
depends on the year. There's even some that are made of both. Aluminum top and plastic bottom. Weird stuff.
Go to ebay and search 5.4L ford intake manifold like I did: http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40&_trk...All-Categories
Go to ebay and search 5.4L ford intake manifold like I did: http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40&_trk...All-Categories
#6923
Man that sucks im already back in missouri. i was even thinking about going through San Fran. because i used to live in San Carlos, CA
funny cause my company said i can come back and work through the end of the year.
Hey red do you still have the 30lb. injectors, an your HPS 5.4 intake?
#6924
Intake Updates ???
I was also wondering about a 3-V, 4-V, etc. ...
#6925
^^^
Glad to see you come back!
r3dneck
What gives brother? I figured you would holdout for a TrickFlow head swap! Your car would be in it's prime for the heads.
No offence, but I can already point to some Lightning GT's and find the results. But a r3dneck GT with TFS heads?
I know the HPS intake, Cams, Headers will be what the Dr. orders for the new TrickFlow heads.
Glad to see you come back!
r3dneck
What gives brother? I figured you would holdout for a TrickFlow head swap! Your car would be in it's prime for the heads.
No offence, but I can already point to some Lightning GT's and find the results. But a r3dneck GT with TFS heads?
I know the HPS intake, Cams, Headers will be what the Dr. orders for the new TrickFlow heads.
#6926
Merlin: Any white castle's where you're at? I may have a hankerin for lunch.
TXBLUOVAL: Yep, it's out. It's a really nice setup and easy as hell to bolt up.
96black: I'm still getting the TFS heads but I couldn't pass up the deal on the blower setup. 700 bones shipped for the whole shootin' match minus the pulley bridge. I figure with the boost + nitrous + built motor + TFS heads should be really really exciting and I can make the same power as the TFS heads would NA with the blower. Adding nitrous (100hp) and better flowing heads should put me into that zone of never having to consider not having enough power.
#6927
Speaking of which... I have a machining request for my machinist homies: I want to make a prototype plenum for the L blowers that will put the TB on the passenger side and not be so damned tall. Any interest? I'll pay for materials and as much labor as I can afford. I'll be looking to get HPS or your company to make them and then sell them to lightning swapped stangers. It's low volume but should be an easy 250 dollar part. At minimum I want one.
Hard part with that plenum is going to be that it'll need to change shape.
I'm also interested in seeing about anyone interested in making an adapter plate so I can use a compressor from something like a 03 cobra or a GT500 on my L lower. Same willingness to pay.
Hard part with that plenum is going to be that it'll need to change shape.
I'm also interested in seeing about anyone interested in making an adapter plate so I can use a compressor from something like a 03 cobra or a GT500 on my L lower. Same willingness to pay.
#6928
Speaking of which... I have a machining request for my machinist homies: I want to make a prototype plenum for the L blowers that will put the TB on the passenger side and not be so damned tall. Any interest? I'll pay for materials and as much labor as I can afford. I'll be looking to get HPS or your company to make them and then sell them to lightning swapped stangers. It's low volume but should be an easy 250 dollar part. At minimum I want one.
Hard part with that plenum is going to be that it'll need to change shape.
I'm also interested in seeing about anyone interested in making an adapter plate so I can use a compressor from something like a 03 cobra or a GT500 on my L lower. Same willingness to pay.
Hard part with that plenum is going to be that it'll need to change shape.
I'm also interested in seeing about anyone interested in making an adapter plate so I can use a compressor from something like a 03 cobra or a GT500 on my L lower. Same willingness to pay.
The piece youre thinking of, how would it work? I'm tryin to picture it...
#6930
bassman... don't make me lend you the 100 bones.
domin8: I need to directly compare a cobra eaton and a L eaton to know for sure but I'm pretty sure I could solve it with an adapter plate or possibly even a better designed mid-plate. The plenum bit I'm thinking of would just be the blower inlet tube from the MAF and would probably look a lot like a Kenne Bell inlet for a L but on the other side of the blower.
domin8: I need to directly compare a cobra eaton and a L eaton to know for sure but I'm pretty sure I could solve it with an adapter plate or possibly even a better designed mid-plate. The plenum bit I'm thinking of would just be the blower inlet tube from the MAF and would probably look a lot like a Kenne Bell inlet for a L but on the other side of the blower.