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View Poll Results: What are your 5.4L swap plans?
Not swapping. You guys are nuts for trying.
1.82%
Not swapping but find the topic interesting.
12.73%
Thinking about doing the swap but not in the next year.
16.82%
Definitely going to do the swap in the next year or so.
25.45%
Doing it now. Looking for an engine or awaiting delivery.
15.45%
Doing it now. Already bought an engine.
18.64%
Done. Got my 5.4L and showin my tail lights to camaro's every day.
7.73%
Screw 5.4, I'm going diesel 4cylinder.
1.36%
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Old 06-03-2009, 07:22 AM
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so should i stay with what the engine has or what my car has? also what parts are transferable to the 5.4 from the 4.6? what parts do i have to get new for the 5.4? timing cover, timing chain, cams?
 
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Old 06-03-2009, 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by zigbigadoru
so should i stay with what the engine has or what my car has? also what parts are transferable to the 5.4 from the 4.6? what parts do i have to get new for the 5.4? timing cover, timing chain, cams?
Are you gonna rebuild the 5.4?

You'll have to use the timing cover and chains from the 5.4

The heads and cams are the same, unless one or the other is a NPI.

Use all the accessories from the 4.6, everything should bolt up. The only issues I know of are the 2001 and later 5.4 timing covers dont have the the bolt holes for the power steering pump. And if you're using the coil packs, the passenger-side bracket needs alittle tweaking.
 
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Old 06-03-2009, 09:25 AM
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Thanks 96blackgt54 I wanna get this thing fired up I wanna feel the torque it's gonna make I'll try to get some pics posted up as soon as I can
 
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Old 06-03-2009, 09:41 AM
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Just had an electrical engineer sit with me and work up a wiring plan for my nitrous system. I've got to buy a few parts but it's gunna be pretty slick. The whole setup runs off a single switch and uses LED's for diagnostics and is fully fused and relayed and has several safety's built in to shut the system down if anything goes wrong. The big change from normal is that I'm going to have a 1st/2nd lockout for the nitrous so it'll only work in 3rd/4th gears. 2nd gear has little traction as it sits and I'm sure the blower will only magnify that so to avoid blowing the tires off I figured a shift lever position dependency would be useful.
 
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Old 06-03-2009, 10:01 AM
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so who lives near the massive blow out of savings at Karkraft?
 
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Old 06-03-2009, 03:57 PM
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up date on my swap guys currently have 3/4s of a long block and my 97 4.6 should be a romeo right? (oil fill drivers side) so my valve covers will work? ive only got windsor set but pi heads are romys. currently what im waiting on is my cams/underbody and interior light kits/wheel spacers/oil tube and dipstick/steeda clutch kit cable/quadrant/adjuster i beleive/am muscle truck carpet/and alot of ambition to do it all at once lol
 
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Old 06-03-2009, 05:06 PM
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sucks that im not nowhere near karkraft. definitely would like to pick up a few things. hey red, do u have any crusing vids of your car?
 
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Old 06-03-2009, 05:44 PM
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yes i plan on rebuilding my motor. what about the fuel rails which one do i use? the heads are going from NPI to PI. the motor is a 2000 expedition motor
 
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Old 06-03-2009, 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by zigbigadoru
yes i plan on rebuilding my motor. what about the fuel rails which one do i use? the heads are going from NPI to PI. the motor is a 2000 expedition motor
You'll probably have to use the rails off of the 4.6 but when I switched to the HPS intake the rails weren't wide enough, so I just put longer hoses on it till I get some aftermarket rails.
 
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Old 06-04-2009, 05:57 AM
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Originally Posted by JoeyMD
so who lives near the massive blow out of savings at Karkraft?
They are about 5 miles down the road from me, I will be headed over to see if they have anything I may want.
 
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Old 06-04-2009, 06:27 AM
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Stupid KarKraft in MI.........why they got to be so far away?

Some killer deals!
 
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Old 06-04-2009, 07:41 AM
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can you point me in the direction of some fuel rails that will fit AND work for the 5.4. i dont feel like getting hoses
 
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Old 06-04-2009, 07:56 AM
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what year is your car?
 
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Old 06-04-2009, 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by zigbigadoru
can you point me in the direction of some fuel rails that will fit AND work for the 5.4. i dont feel like getting hoses
hunter(sleepingGT) and mine both fit on the HPS. his is a 00 and mine is a 97
 
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Old 06-04-2009, 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by myillwillinc
hunter(sleepingGT) and mine both fit on the HPS. his is a 00 and mine is a 97
luckies! mine didn't, so i had to go the route of aftermarket rails and lines.
hows hunters coming along?
 
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Old 06-04-2009, 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by zigbigadoru
can you point me in the direction of some fuel rails that will fit AND work for the 5.4. i dont feel like getting hoses
My stock fuel lines worked just fine with the HPS. Maybe it is just the returnless setups that work without modification?
 
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Old 06-04-2009, 02:33 PM
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waiting on long tubes. went by the shop today. the flange are in and he has the jig setup with my headers on it. as soon as the pipies get there he will make 2 sets for everyone to see( one for mine - 5sp and one for hunter - auto)
 
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Old 06-04-2009, 02:58 PM
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I may have a new inlet plenum for the lightning swappers in the works. similar to http://images.trucktrend.com/roadtes...ngine_view.jpg but passenger side entry.
 
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Old 06-04-2009, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by myillwillinc
waiting on long tubes. went by the shop today. the flange are in and he has the jig setup with my headers on it. as soon as the pipies get there he will make 2 sets for everyone to see( one for mine - 5sp and one for hunter - auto)
awesome. how are you running turbo with LT? any updated pics?

Originally Posted by r3dn3ck
I may have a new inlet plenum for the lightning swappers in the works. similar to http://images.trucktrend.com/roadtes...ngine_view.jpg but passenger side entry.
that will be sweet!! will there still be major hood clearance issues? or will it fit with relative ease
 
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Old 06-04-2009, 03:43 PM
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this is an example on how i'll be setting mine up:
http://www.atomicmc.com/images/galle...clan/index.htm
 
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Old 06-04-2009, 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by myillwillinc
this is an example on how i'll be setting mine up:
http://www.atomicmc.com/images/galle...clan/index.htm
one word.. wow.
 
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Old 06-04-2009, 06:51 PM
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im a lucky guy i just placed my order for for one of kar krafts last navi shortblocks
 
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Old 06-05-2009, 12:35 PM
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Who all carrys the adapter plates.... I should be getting mine in a week or two...
 
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Old 06-05-2009, 02:08 PM
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MMR
 
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Old 06-05-2009, 04:19 PM
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r3d and company, question for you. How much HP can the stock crankshaft hold? I have Forged Pistons and Rods coming, but if the stock crank will be fine for 5-600HP then I'm not going to worry about it. Engine is out of a 99 F150.
 
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Old 06-06-2009, 06:42 AM
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easily... make sure it's balanced to your rotating kit and you'll be able to put a lot more through the stock crank than the stock tranny can handle.
 
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Old 06-06-2009, 11:00 PM
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Well guys i just got back from the local track (1/8th mile) and was running 9.20s all night. still needs a tune. and it was on street tires. factory rear end gears
 
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Old 06-07-2009, 10:09 AM
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Got the motor in and fired up last night it sounds like a beast with those 278s I still have to get a base tune in it cause it's running pig rich i'll keep you guys posted
 
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Old 06-07-2009, 03:51 PM
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2 well done's.
 
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Old 06-08-2009, 05:41 AM
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Got my car on the ground! Runs great and sounds great! I still have an issue with the exhaust between the H and the tips. I'll let the exhaust guy deal with that.

WOOO HOOO !!! Can't wait to drive it!
 


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