View Poll Results: What are your 5.4L swap plans?
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#1087
Here you go fellas.... My car should be done very very soon.... was supposed to be done this week but now looking at late next week..... :
Here are the specs: Built Lightning 5.4 L bored over .030 to a "335",Lightning Heads 3 angle valve job w/ comp cam springs,Eaton Stage "VI" Port,Lightning forged crank,Manley forged H-beam rods w/ ARP 2000 caps,Manley forged 18cc dishtop pistons,Dual SVT Focus fuel pumps,LFP oil separator,3lb upper 6lb lower pulleys, Fluidyne heatexchanger,NX 100 shot,JLT CAI,SCT X-CAL II,SCT 90mm BA-2400MAF,TKO600,Spec Stage III,Steeda Quad. & adj. cable,FRPP 3.73's,Ratech Kit,Strange 31 spline axles,Pro Series rear end girdle,UPR DS loop,UPR subframe connectors,UPR Upper & Lower control arms,BBK O/R X,SLP LM II
Here are the specs: Built Lightning 5.4 L bored over .030 to a "335",Lightning Heads 3 angle valve job w/ comp cam springs,Eaton Stage "VI" Port,Lightning forged crank,Manley forged H-beam rods w/ ARP 2000 caps,Manley forged 18cc dishtop pistons,Dual SVT Focus fuel pumps,LFP oil separator,3lb upper 6lb lower pulleys, Fluidyne heatexchanger,NX 100 shot,JLT CAI,SCT X-CAL II,SCT 90mm BA-2400MAF,TKO600,Spec Stage III,Steeda Quad. & adj. cable,FRPP 3.73's,Ratech Kit,Strange 31 spline axles,Pro Series rear end girdle,UPR DS loop,UPR subframe connectors,UPR Upper & Lower control arms,BBK O/R X,SLP LM II
#1096
Hey all just registered to let you all know that I purchased a bare block from 50resto.com as well as some Patriot Stage 3 Heads, Comp XE268 cams, and I am about to order the Reichard Racing adaptor plates and an HPS hardball'r intake.
What else will I need? and what should I expect as far as hp/torque with the Stage 3 heads and Comp cams? This engine will remain N/A.
I'll be getting a 95 style Cobra R hood that I hope will clear the intake. It provides 2.5" I believe and from previous posts that should be enough.
This will be my first mod motor to build. I've built several toyota engines including a 5VZ and a 2JZ in the past. This is a totally different situation.
What else will I need? and what should I expect as far as hp/torque with the Stage 3 heads and Comp cams? This engine will remain N/A.
I'll be getting a 95 style Cobra R hood that I hope will clear the intake. It provides 2.5" I believe and from previous posts that should be enough.
This will be my first mod motor to build. I've built several toyota engines including a 5VZ and a 2JZ in the past. This is a totally different situation.
#1097
with that combo you should see in excess of 300-325rwhp and 340-360rwtq from what we're seeing from similar setups. A local did 340/340 with basically the same thing, through a cobbled together intake and a forged bottom end.
You'll need an 8bolt clutch and flywheel and a little tinkering on the downpipes from the header flanges. Not much... just add an inch here and there and then spread the pipes apart a bit. I'd also consider a stiffer set of front springs. FRPP C springs will help tame the extra front end weight.
You'll need an 8bolt clutch and flywheel and a little tinkering on the downpipes from the header flanges. Not much... just add an inch here and there and then spread the pipes apart a bit. I'd also consider a stiffer set of front springs. FRPP C springs will help tame the extra front end weight.
#1100
lol, thanks, i located a set here in town today from a frustrated lightning project. but thanks anyway. now for the tough question. since i have after market cams, they do not have a keyslot for the ford tool to fit into for lining up the cams. who has a way to get these suckers correct without taking it to the dealership or shop. also the chains do not have the marked links like the haynes book says to look for.
#1101
John Mihovitz has a tool... I think he works for accufab or somewhere like that. There's a cam timing tool on ebay too. Good luck.
Blitz, to get past 350 and up to 375 you'll need:
one helluva aggressive cam
6500rpm
intake with a massive plenum
heads hogged out till hell won't have it.
10.5:1 compression.
That should get in the area as long as the motor is otherwise well built.
Blitz, to get past 350 and up to 375 you'll need:
one helluva aggressive cam
6500rpm
intake with a massive plenum
heads hogged out till hell won't have it.
10.5:1 compression.
That should get in the area as long as the motor is otherwise well built.
#1102
For the chains, just lay them end to end and mark each end. Here's a good article on it:
http://www.fordmuscle.com/archives/2...t2V/index3.php
http://www.fordmuscle.com/archives/2...t2V/index3.php
#1103
The hardball'r wouldn't have a big enough plenum? Should I buy something else or just have the plenum bored?
Also will I be able to maintain my AODE transmission using an 8 bolt flywheel? Is there one made?
#1104
depends on your definition of streetable. It'll lope pretty good and you'll end up having to use a higher that stock gear ratio (3.55 or 3.73) but it should still be something that'll idle below 800rpm.
The hardball'R is close but i don't know if it's there in as delivered form.
The only way to really find out is to build it and try. If you miss by 25hp, then use a 50hp shot of nitrous and you're there and safe.
The hardball'R is close but i don't know if it's there in as delivered form.
The only way to really find out is to build it and try. If you miss by 25hp, then use a 50hp shot of nitrous and you're there and safe.
#1105
depends on your definition of streetable. It'll lope pretty good and you'll end up having to use a higher that stock gear ratio (3.55 or 3.73) but it should still be something that'll idle below 800rpm.
The hardball'R is close but i don't know if it's there in as delivered form.
The only way to really find out is to build it and try. If you miss by 25hp, then use a 50hp shot of nitrous and you're there and safe.
The hardball'R is close but i don't know if it's there in as delivered form.
The only way to really find out is to build it and try. If you miss by 25hp, then use a 50hp shot of nitrous and you're there and safe.
#1106
You shouldn't have a problem bolting the trans up though unless it's built strong, it may not be able to hold up. Also, if the Edelbrock intake is a good piece (which it probably is), to make it fit the 5.4, instead of using adaptor plates (which increases runner length which the 5.4 doesn't need), you can cut it in half at plenum to make it wider (which benefits you since the plenum volume increases). The only issue with going in that direction is that you will need a custom adaptor to fit a standard Holley flanged throttle body to your intake since you widened the plenum (which if you can, is even better since that will increase the plenum volum even more and give you a place to hook up your vacuum hoses, EGR, etc. from your stock elbow). However, I don't think the Edelbrock intake is out yet...
#1107
You shouldn't have a problem bolting the trans up though unless it's built strong, it may not be able to hold up. Also, if the Edelbrock intake is a good piece (which it probably is), to make it fit the 5.4, instead of using adaptor plates (which increases runner length which the 5.4 doesn't need), you can cut it in half at plenum to make it wider (which benefits you since the plenum volume increases). The only issue with going in that direction is that you will need a custom adaptor to fit a standard Holley flanged throttle body to your intake since you widened the plenum (which if you can, is even better since that will increase the plenum volum even more and give you a place to hook up your vacuum hoses, EGR, etc. from your stock elbow). However, I don't think the Edelbrock intake is out yet...
Built rear-end and transmission already in the works.
#1109
i'd like to have over 350 rwhp with my build.
so far i have:
bored .020"
all internal forged parts
270 cams
oversized valves
slight porting of the heads
udp pullies
timing adjuster
electric water pump
c&l plenum and maf
24# injectors
70mm tb
CAI/K&N
frpp headers
off-road prochamber/flowmasters/dumps
- that should get me to 350rwhp u think?
so far i have:
bored .020"
all internal forged parts
270 cams
oversized valves
slight porting of the heads
udp pullies
timing adjuster
electric water pump
c&l plenum and maf
24# injectors
70mm tb
CAI/K&N
frpp headers
off-road prochamber/flowmasters/dumps
- that should get me to 350rwhp u think?
#1110
I'd bump the injectors to 30lb units or you'll start to see super high duty cycles at WOT. Other than that the porting of the heads will have a big impact on final numbers. The more they flow the better. If you have flow numbers on them then I can do some math and see if it's possible/likely.
What pistons are you running? What's the CR? Which intake? Ported? Reichard plates?
Get a 75mm TB and a 90mm LMAF as well. It can use all the inbound airflow you can get into it.
I think you'll definitely be in the 300+ area, probably around 315-325 (given a stock CR of 9.4:1), possibly higher. CR will tell us more though.
What pistons are you running? What's the CR? Which intake? Ported? Reichard plates?
Get a 75mm TB and a 90mm LMAF as well. It can use all the inbound airflow you can get into it.
I think you'll definitely be in the 300+ area, probably around 315-325 (given a stock CR of 9.4:1), possibly higher. CR will tell us more though.