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View Poll Results: What are your 5.4L swap plans?
Not swapping. You guys are nuts for trying.
1.82%
Not swapping but find the topic interesting.
12.73%
Thinking about doing the swap but not in the next year.
16.82%
Definitely going to do the swap in the next year or so.
25.45%
Doing it now. Looking for an engine or awaiting delivery.
15.45%
Doing it now. Already bought an engine.
18.64%
Done. Got my 5.4L and showin my tail lights to camaro's every day.
7.73%
Screw 5.4, I'm going diesel 4cylinder.
1.36%
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Old 01-23-2012, 03:36 PM
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Ok. LMK ASAP. I also have a 2400 stall B&M converter for a 4R70W
 
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Old 01-26-2012, 10:15 PM
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hey guys, ive got a couple of questions, when looking for parts, mainly internals for these 5.4s some of the sites are 5.4 specific so when im trying to find stuff im not sure exactly what im looking for, like rods and pistons and bearings. also what would you guys say is a safe amount to have the block bored? 20 or 30 over, or i should ask, whats the max before having to sleeve it? if its 30 i only want to go 20 over so if something were to happen and i need to do a total rebuild i have the option of going that extra 10 over. Thanks in advance, i actually feel pretty dumb asking. i can assemble the whole thing but i cant correctly find parts ha
 
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Old 01-27-2012, 05:21 AM
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If I remember right, the pistons and bearings are the same on 4.6/5.4's You'll need a 5.4 specific crank and rods. I would just bore it enough to clean up the cylinders, 30 is probably the most I'd go.

You do need to be careful on pistons though, some places will list the compression in a 4.6 and it will be alot higher in a 5.4, so double check the compression ratio before you order em.
 
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Old 01-28-2012, 04:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Morgan The Black
If I remember right, the pistons and bearings are the same on 4.6/5.4's You'll need a 5.4 specific crank and rods. I would just bore it enough to clean up the cylinders, 30 is probably the most I'd go.

You do need to be careful on pistons though, some places will list the compression in a 4.6 and it will be alot higher in a 5.4, so double check the compression ratio before you order em.
Actually it is just the opposite. The 5.4 engine has 0.120" running clearance from the piston at TDC to the top of the deck, while the 4.6 is only like 0.010" (I don't remember the exact dimensions, but that is close enough for my point). While the pistons used in the 4.6 and 5.4 are the same, you will have LESS compression with the same piston installed in a 5.4L. For example, the stock PI setup yields a 9.3:1 CR in a 4.6, and only 9.0:1 in a 5.4L. If you are not going to be using forced injection, I would suggest going with a flat-top piston when ordering your 0.30" over-bore pistons. That should yield you about a 10:1 CR... still very safe for pump gas.
 
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Old 01-28-2012, 04:53 AM
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Default 5.4L parts for sale

I've been threatening to revert my car back to a 4.6 for a while now in order to sell it easier and put it toward a new car... Well now that I have seen the 2013's I'm pulling the trigger finally. I realized that my car is actually worth just the same whether it has the 5.4 with all the work put into it or a stock 4.6... so I will be putting my 4.6 back in.

Here are a list of components that are for sale:
If anyone is interested, please PM me and we can work out a fair selling (and shipping) price.

TwEECer R/T
HPS Hardball'r Intake
Trickflow upper intake elbow & 75mm TB
Comp XE270AH Cams
Comp Adjustable Cam gears
 
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Old 01-31-2012, 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by JScottGT
Actually it is just the opposite. The 5.4 engine has 0.120" running clearance from the piston at TDC to the top of the deck, while the 4.6 is only like 0.010" (I don't remember the exact dimensions, but that is close enough for my point). While the pistons used in the 4.6 and 5.4 are the same, you will have LESS compression with the same piston installed in a 5.4L. For example, the stock PI setup yields a 9.3:1 CR in a 4.6, and only 9.0:1 in a 5.4L. If you are not going to be using forced injection, I would suggest going with a flat-top piston when ordering your 0.30" over-bore pistons. That should yield you about a 10:1 CR... still very safe for pump gas.

awesome information, thank you. looking to run just 20 over so if i needed to do a full blown rebuild again i could go that extra 10. also for running forced induction, and/or nitrous, what kind of compression ratios should i aim for? ive been doing some research into the whole turbo and supercharger world. id like to have it set up so i can drive it around town but when i want to get a little wild and take it to the track i could turn up the boost and change tune. also what do yall prefer, H style or I style rods?
 
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Old 02-01-2012, 05:21 AM
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Well I guess let me clarify, some companies make 5.4 specific pistons, and they have MUCH higher compression ratios. They do away with that .120 clearance.
http://www.excessiveracing.com/DRP-C3001854.aspx

I take it you plan on running 93?

I'd go with the same TMD rods as the rest of us, they were like $350 H beams.
 
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Old 02-09-2012, 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by JScottGT

Here are a list of components that are for sale:
If anyone is interested, please PM me and we can work out a fair selling (and shipping) price.

TwEECer R/T
HPS Hardball'r Intake
Trickflow upper intake elbow & 75mm TB
Comp XE270AH Cams
Comp Adjustable Cam gears
As of yesterday, the hardball'r intake, TF upper elbow, and 75mm TB are sold.

Lots of other (5.4L swap) specific parts still available. Send a PM with your offers.

TwEECer R/T with N/A 5.4L files on disc. **SOLD**
Comp Adj Cam Gears **SOLD**
Comp XE270-AH Cams **SOLD**
FRPP 24# injectors
BBK Cold Air Intake
 

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Old 02-09-2012, 06:36 PM
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Gonna be selling off some of my 5.4 build stuff as well. None of it was used and all comes with the original packaging.

44cc Trickflow 2v Heads with N/A TFS MHS Cams(Stage 3.5)-$3300
Hardball'r Intake-$600
Lighning MAF-$70
ACCEL 36# Injectors-$225
Comp Adj Cam Gears-$200
 
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Old 02-13-2012, 09:41 PM
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Does anyone still make long tube headers to fit the 5.4 conversion.
 
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Old 02-15-2012, 08:21 AM
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i'm having long tube forward mounted headers made now. call FTP (205) 647-7676. Tj can make them as needed for u.
 
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Old 02-16-2012, 04:08 PM
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What is needed to mount my p-sc1-1 procharger, off my 2000 4.6 on a 5.4.
 
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Old 02-21-2012, 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by jake1191
Gonna be selling off some of my 5.4 build stuff as well. None of it was used and all comes with the original packaging.

44cc Trickflow 2v Heads with N/A TFS MHS Cams(Stage 3.5)-$3300
Hardball'r Intake-$600
Lighning MAF-$70
ACCEL 36# Injectors-$225
Comp Adj Cam Gears-$200
PM sent.
 
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Old 02-24-2012, 12:30 PM
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Looking for an HPS Hardball'r intake and probably going to sell my Lightning to Mach 1 upper intake.
 
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Old 02-24-2012, 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Ortiz
Looking for an HPS Hardball'r intake and probably going to sell my Lightning to Mach 1 upper intake.
post a couple pics of it and i'll see about the other hardball'r owners are interested...
 
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Old 02-24-2012, 04:23 PM
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I am looking for the HPS intake as well.
 
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Old 02-24-2012, 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by myillwillinc
post a couple pics of it and i'll see about the other hardball'r owners are interested...

I have posted here before in the past but will do so in a bit. I'm the one that almost bought your intake.
 
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Old 03-06-2012, 05:05 AM
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Looking for a few stock 4.6 parts for any of you that have some stuff laying around. I need stock exhaust manifolds, EGR tube, stock motor mounts, returnless fuel rail. If any of you have any of that for sale, PM me or email horspla65@hotmail.com Thanks!
 
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Old 03-09-2012, 09:14 PM
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looking for a hardballer intake for my 5.4 f150, i know these are built for the mustangs but it should fit the f150 with some minor mods to the elbow shouldnt it
 
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Old 03-12-2012, 05:02 PM
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My HPS is still up for Grabs for now. Some one snag it before its gone.
 
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Old 03-12-2012, 05:17 PM
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Comp cams XE270AH for sale. 4.6 5.4 2V with NEW Ford sprockets, bolts, torqued and ready to go. Looking for $550 shipped OBO. email me horspla65@hotmail.com
 
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Old 03-12-2012, 05:18 PM
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Old 03-12-2012, 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by jake1191
My HPS is still up for Grabs for now. Some one snag it before its gone.
gimme a price. dynoing a 5.4 swap this weekend i recently helped with...
 
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Old 03-13-2012, 03:01 AM
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$600+actual shipping. Only taking postal money order due to the outrageous paypal fees.
 
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Old 03-16-2012, 03:10 PM
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Now taking paypal on all my parts
 
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Old 03-24-2012, 10:23 AM
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Hey, guys. I've learned a lot in this thread thus far.

I was just wondering if you guys could help me.

I'd like to go all motor (N/A), and push a respectable 350 HP. Less or more is still fine. (converting a V6 '98, so any power is better than that horrific engine)

I'm up in the air whether I should get a 2v or a 4v, and what I should do to either?

I was pricing the 5.4L specific pistons that increase the compression to like 11.2:1 in a 4-valve application. But for pistons / rods, it's $1,350.
And I do want more aggressive cams. Because they will give me better power and sound awesome doing it.

Any help would be appreciated.
 

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Old 03-26-2012, 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by jake1191
Gonna be selling off some of my 5.4 build stuff as well. None of it was used and all comes with the original packaging.

44cc Trickflow 2v Heads with N/A TFS MHS Cams(Stage 3.5)-$3300
Hardball'r Intake-$600
Lighning MAF-$70
ACCEL 36# Injectors-$225
Comp Adj Cam Gears-$200

PMed
 
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Old 03-28-2012, 08:52 AM
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I still have for sale a B&M 2400 stall converter for a 4R70W, 8 bolt flywheel for auto trans, an engine wiring harness for 99-04, stock exhaust manifolds for a 99-04, stock cooling fan, block spacer that goes between the engine and trans, Let me know if you are interested in anything. email horspla65@hotmail.com email will be quicker than PM.
 
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Old 03-29-2012, 03:54 PM
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I'm in search of a 5.4 Hps intake. I called em today and they have em on back order call or text me 6185587074 need asap for midnight madnesss
 

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Old 03-30-2012, 03:04 AM
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Intake is gone now.
 


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