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Not swapping. You guys are nuts for trying.
1.82%
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12.73%
Thinking about doing the swap but not in the next year.
16.82%
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25.45%
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15.45%
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18.64%
Done. Got my 5.4L and showin my tail lights to camaro's every day.
7.73%
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1.36%
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Old Jul 9, 2010 | 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by BikerSk8rKid
How much is this roughly costing you guys?
What does SC mean?
I can tell you that SC = SuperCharged

As for cost ... I ahve yet to find out myself on that one but I'm sure several folks here will no doubt contribute to that answer ...
 
Old Jul 9, 2010 | 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by TXBLUOVAL
I can tell you that SC = SuperCharged

As for cost ... I ahve yet to find out myself on that one but I'm sure several folks here will no doubt contribute to that answer ...
Yeah I didn't mean to type that out, I think I meant NA and not SC.
Wow I feel dumb. haha
 
Old Jul 9, 2010 | 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by BikerSk8rKid
Yeah I didn't mean to type that out, I think I meant NA and not SC.
Wow I feel dumb. haha
No problem ... We're flexible here ...

NA = Naturally aspirated ... (i.e. no blower of any kind)
 
Old Jul 9, 2010 | 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by TXBLUOVAL
No problem ... We're flexible here ...

NA = Naturally aspirated ... (i.e. no blower of any kind)
Man I was wrong on the NA too. I thought that it meant non turbo. haha
 
Old Jul 10, 2010 | 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by BikerSk8rKid
How much is this roughly costing you guys?
What does SC mean?
The record for low cost was just under 500 bucks all in. That guy did all his own work and used mostly stock parts. He ended up making 481rwhp on a 175 shot.

Figure 735 shipped for an intake manifold and then whatever the motor, labor and any upgrades you do add to that. The intake is the only special part you'll need in most cases.

Originally Posted by BikerSk8rKid
Man I was wrong on the NA too. I thought that it meant non turbo. haha
sorta is... it's also inclusive of non-turbo and non-nitrous.

Intakes are available. Spread the word.
 
Old Jul 10, 2010 | 11:31 AM
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Before i order my stuff do i need mustang shorty headers or f-150 shortys?
 
Old Jul 10, 2010 | 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by jake1191
Before i order my stuff do i need mustang shorty headers or f-150 shortys?
mustang shorty
 
Old Jul 10, 2010 | 12:23 PM
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I am using the 01' Lightning plugs on my 5.4L. Non-pi block with pi heads. 2 steps colder than the 4.6L I was using. I believe they are the FM1 plugs.
 
Old Jul 10, 2010 | 12:25 PM
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Should i buy the JBA or the Ford racing?
 
Old Jul 10, 2010 | 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by jake1191
Should i buy the JBA or the Ford racing?
I don't think it really makes a difference. They're shorties either way. You can also use stock manifolds if you don't feel like buying a set of shorties.

I'm just planning on picking up the first used set I come across, but I have to get 4v ones. Hopefully I'll find somebody selling some fairly cheap. I've come across a lot of good deals so far and I hope I manage to keep doing that throughout the entire process because I've been saving a lot of money going with used parts.
 
Old Jul 10, 2010 | 07:01 PM
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Shorties are pretty much not worth the effort. If you're going short tube stick with stock manifolds.
 
Old Jul 11, 2010 | 09:19 AM
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the swap from factory manis to frpp shorties made almost no diff on my first swap, i didnn't even feel a diff. now on hunters, the swap from JBA's to LT's was insane the diff it felt like.....

i'm talking to tj to bump the LT project up to the front of the line to get a couple sets whipped up in the next couple weeks for the people that have called.
 
Old Jul 11, 2010 | 09:50 AM
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LT's make a difference you can feel, that's for sure. They're pricey but if you want that last 20hp and the top end to open up a bit, it's how to get it.
 
Old Jul 11, 2010 | 07:06 PM
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Your making me want to go all out and do LTs.
 
Old Jul 12, 2010 | 06:54 AM
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that's entirely your decision. They are something more to "live with" and there are downsides. Clutch jobs get expensive, reduced ground clearance... etc. But man... the sound.
 
Old Jul 12, 2010 | 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by r3dn3ck
It shouldn't "kill" it but it will probably drop a little tq from 1000-3000. I wouldn't expect to lose much more than 10-20lbs at 2k but it's definitely a case where you're also going to need some lumpy cams and big heads to match the intake and so your combo would also dictate appropriate gears like 3.73 or higher which would completely negate the actual loss by getting it higher in the RPM's quicker. I would expect midrange and top end gains to be subtantial as long as the combo is otherwise right.

In any case, keep in mind that it's not exactly going to turn into a dog. It's still a pretty beefy motor in an otherwise modestly sized vehicle. There's a baseline of performance that I don't think you'll be going under anytime soon.
I already have some seriously hocked out PI heads, 4.10's, and those custom cams, which are pretty lumpy lol.
Ill have to port match the intake some, but that shouldnt be an issue.
Hopefully by the time (IF) it comes out I will have longtubes on the car as well.
 
Old Jul 12, 2010 | 07:51 AM
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ground clearance might not be an issue, on hunters car they were higher then the BBK's on the 4.6
 
Old Jul 12, 2010 | 04:44 PM
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I'm gonna talk to my local shop and see what he can do for a set of headers. They seem to like me over there so maybe I can work out a set for less than what FTP charges.
 
Old Jul 13, 2010 | 07:22 AM
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Not a chance. I already paid for custom headers... you don't want to spend that much money. Trust me. Just get the FTP's and be thankful.

1996: I think you'll be a good use case when/if the new intake comes out. I'll use it... betting tommy will too.

News: My intake shipped.
 
Old Jul 13, 2010 | 10:00 AM
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Got me a HPS intake ordered yesterday. Took the shorties off my list and started tear down of the 5.4

Is a 30 over bore going to give me any added advantage? Or should i stay stock bore?
 
Old Jul 13, 2010 | 10:06 AM
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Well, called me credit card company, and apparently my limit is way higher than i though.

Go figure.

Thus, its time to go bug FTP about some longtubes.
 
Old Jul 13, 2010 | 11:24 AM
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Bad News. Anyone wanting longtubes from FTP will have to wait until late August.

Anyone have a set they are willing to part with?
 
Old Jul 13, 2010 | 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by jake1191
Got me a HPS intake ordered yesterday. Took the shorties off my list and started tear down of the 5.4

Is a 30 over bore going to give me any added advantage? Or should i stay stock bore?
most of us did a .020 overbore. It helps unshroud the valves. .030 over is as far as I'd take an iron block.
 
Old Jul 13, 2010 | 02:48 PM
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would i benefit any with the .030 over vs the .020 over? They both cost $150 to have the local machinist do the boring and the pistons cost the same.
 
Old Jul 13, 2010 | 03:07 PM
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maybe... not enough to care about but it's your call. I'd do .020 and leave yourself a .010 overbore in reserve just in case.
 
Old Jul 14, 2010 | 05:04 AM
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+1
 
Old Jul 14, 2010 | 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by 1996mustangGT
Bad News. Anyone wanting longtubes from FTP will have to wait until late August.

Anyone have a set they are willing to part with?
august is 2 weeks away. i'll see if i can get tj to jump up the timeframe on them
 
Old Jul 14, 2010 | 01:42 PM
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august is 2 weeks away. i'll see if i can get tj to jump up the timeframe on them
Huh this is true lol. I was thinking like holy crap august and didnt even think thats next month.

Anyways the way he talked they are going to increase the primaries size on the LT's a little and do a little more tweaking to better fit the starter and such. Should be interesting.
 
Old Jul 15, 2010 | 04:41 AM
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I opened up some room in my budget to pick up some longtubes from FTP when the time comes.
 
Old Jul 15, 2010 | 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by 330ciJarryd
I opened up some room in my budget to pick up some longtubes from FTP when the time comes.
you and me both
 

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