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Not swapping. You guys are nuts for trying.
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Not swapping but find the topic interesting.
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Thinking about doing the swap but not in the next year.
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Definitely going to do the swap in the next year or so.
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Doing it now. Looking for an engine or awaiting delivery.
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Doing it now. Already bought an engine.
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Done. Got my 5.4L and showin my tail lights to camaro's every day.
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Screw 5.4, I'm going diesel 4cylinder.
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here's what a bad tune can do.................
 
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I found that buying new is a lot faster and cheaper than machine work! I ordered a new Ford Racing block and crank, got my TMD rods, called TMD today and ordered Probe pistons, rings, bearings,....... ordered (from Summit) a new oil pump and pickup, ARP main and head studs, head changing kit (can sell the bolts to my work for cost) I need a stock Mustang oil pan if anybody has ome for sale. Luckliy, the broken piston appears to have not touched the head, so I may have lucked out there. It did bend the spark plug electrode somehow so I will have to look a little closer at that. I will be building my way back up ASAP........waiting on parts!
 
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building my motor I see.
 
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Old 06-21-2010, 11:20 AM
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Coincidence..............I guess you did turn me on to TMD rods and Probe pistons. and maybe the ARP studs.................ok you got me!! LOL
 

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Old 06-21-2010, 11:25 AM
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looks like a few ppl here used tmd rods and probe pistons.
 
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Originally Posted by horspla2000
I found that buying new is a lot faster and cheaper than machine work! I ordered a new Ford Racing block and crank, got my TMD rods, called TMD today and ordered Probe pistons, rings, bearings,....... ordered (from Summit) a new oil pump and pickup, ARP main and head studs, head changing kit (can sell the bolts to my work for cost) I need a stock Mustang oil pan if anybody has ome for sale. Luckliy, the broken piston appears to have not touched the head, so I may have lucked out there. It did bend the spark plug electrode somehow so I will have to look a little closer at that. I will be building my way back up ASAP........waiting on parts!
i have a stock mustang and lightning oil pan
 
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Old 06-21-2010, 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by horspla2000
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Old 06-21-2010, 04:12 PM
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wow, that sucks. i had that happen to me on an old 4.6
 
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Old 06-21-2010, 04:14 PM
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hey guys if theres someone doing the swap and needs adapter plates, im selling my mmr plates that i mounted but never used for 100, i think thats fair since its 279 new

http://sandiego.craigslist.org/nsd/pts/1803896648.html
 
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Timing components are giving me a headache. I cant figure out if the 2v and 4v primary guides are the same, and I'm missing a secondary chain and one of the guides for it and don't know where to pick these up at.

I also can't find a navigator timing cover so this is turning into an issue.

I have some time to figure those problems out though, I still don't have cams, port work, internals, or an intake yet. At least I should be able to take care of all that before too long. I need to start looking for a night job though, I'm going back to school in the fall rather than working full time like I had planned so now I have to find another source of income.
 
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Originally Posted by 330ciJarryd
Timing components are giving me a headache. I cant figure out if the 2v and 4v primary guides are the same, and I'm missing a secondary chain and one of the guides for it and don't know where to pick these up at.

I also can't find a navigator timing cover so this is turning into an issue.

I have some time to figure those problems out though, I still don't have cams, port work, internals, or an intake yet. At least I should be able to take care of all that before too long. I need to start looking for a night job though, I'm going back to school in the fall rather than working full time like I had planned so now I have to find another source of income.

Lincoln Navi timing cover here
 
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Old 06-22-2010, 07:27 AM
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jarryd: call up MMR and tell them to send you a timing kit for a navigator. Just get new. It's relatively cheap and as easy as a phone call. You can check your local dealer but I doubt that'll be very helpful or price friendly.

untamed03: get your post count up so you can post that sort of stuff in the classifieds and thanks for posting it. Hopefully someone can get some use from them.
 
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Old 06-22-2010, 11:28 AM
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Think it's ok to use a Ford Racing HV oil pump with a stock pan??
 
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Old 06-22-2010, 12:21 PM
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are the headers available yet? or where can i get the solution to making the 5.4 exhaust work in my 00 GT? Also what all do i need to perform a 5.4 swap?
 
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Old 06-22-2010, 12:40 PM
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horspla: I don't think it's a good idea. I'd put a 8qt pan on it if you do HV. You're going to wind that baby up a bit. You should do both.

jake: yes. FTP is making them. Search through the last several pages of the thread... it gets mentioned regularly. Or myillwill will chime in

https://mustangboards.com/modular-4-...-write-up.html has all the info for the swap. www.hiperformancesolutions.com for the intake. They just got a casting run made. They're being finish machined now so should be shipping in a day or two.
 
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Old 06-22-2010, 03:21 PM
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i went with mmr 7 qt pan,mellings high volume oil pump with billet gears and cobra high volume pickup tube
 
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can anyone direct me to a site for FTP or something like that
 
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Originally Posted by jake1191
can anyone direct me to a site for FTP or something like that
FTP (205) 631-3871 ...
 
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tj@ftp has 3 sets of flanges ready to make into sexyazz headers.
 
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tj@ftp has 3 sets of flanges ready to make into sexyazz headers.
i am almost ready for a set !!!
 
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Man, I'd like to get some while my engine is out, just can't justify the $$ right now. Plus, possible fitment issues and I'd have to get a new mid-pipe then and who knows what else.
 
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Rid check this out http://www.fordracingparts.com/parts...tKeyField=2612

It says the HV oil pump is OE in 4.6 DOHC. The DOHC uses the same pan. I haven't found anywhere where is says not to use with the stock pan. I understand why it is a potential concern, but you'd think they'd say suggest or recommend an aftermarket pan. Thoughts anybody??
 

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If I'm not mistaken Ford used a high-capacity oil pan on the Cobra-R in 2000. I think it would be safe to say that speaks for itself.

IMO ...

Yesssss ... If you are building a bad-*** motor the first thing of order is the oil system and back in the old days a high-volume oil pump always went hand-in-hand with a higher capacity pan. If you didn't splurge for the pan it wasn't uncommon to go with a standard oil pump (maybe slightly shimmed) but you ALWAYS tried to run some brushes through the oil gallery system to make sure they were clean and often drilled them out a bit it possible.

Bottom line ... engine rebuild - oil system attention/mods-new pump-proper pan. Following that we never went wrong nor blew an engine due to oil system related problems.
 
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Alright, I give. I bought a Canton 7 qt pan.
 
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Originally Posted by horspla2000
Man, I'd like to get some while my engine is out, just can't justify the $$ right now. Plus, possible fitment issues and I'd have to get a new mid-pipe then and who knows what else.
since you can get them with the mid-pipe fitment won't be an issue....
 
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Comp Cams 102300 "Xtreme Energy" hydraulic camshaft set.
Fits 1992-present Ford modular 4.6L and 5.4L SOHC. Comp Cams "Xtreme Energy Cams" are the latest series of hydraulic and hydraulic roller cams to take advantage of the newest development of camshaft design and valve train technology. They have an aggressive lobe design that produces better throttle response than other cams with the same duration and they still deliver strong engine vacuum. "Xtreme Energy Cams" can be used for any street or street/strip application where both top end horsepower and good throttle response are desired. Basic Operating RPM Range: 2,000-6,000 RPM
Duration at 050 inch Lift: 236 int./240 exh.
Valve lift with 1.825:1 rocker arm: 0.500" int./0.500" exh. lift
Hot street cam with 3.55-3.73 gears, 2,000 stall converter, requires computer upgrade. Comp Cams 102300


This was sent to me by comp when you request a cam for a certain application, i.e 5.4 Mustang. How does this look?
 
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It's an off the shelf grind. There are better grinds available. Check Modularheadshop.com . Call up Nick and tell him I sent you.
 
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anyone know what kind of Hp to expect out of a stage 3 modular headshop cam and stage 3 modular headshop ported PI head setup along with a forged bottom end on a 01 5.4 block? OF course doing it the right way with a HPS intake manifold and full bolt-ons.
 


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