View Poll Results: What are your 5.4L swap plans?
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#6182
it takes a 10mm open ended wrench and a lot of patience. There is something funky with the casting in that area where the bolt does not come right out and there is no direct tool access for a socket.
#6184
yeah im using a 10mm open end. its just on there so tight that it started to round the head. now i did find out the whole unit splits in two so you can use a socket =)
is the gasket between the adapted and block re-usable? the guys down at autozone cant find the gasket in the computer or any of the books
#6185
http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/x,ca...parttype,10649
Thats what you want, its cheap so just replace it. Give them that part number, or go to ford.
I just hope you didnt mess up the O-rings on that thing. They're expensive from ford and thats about the only place I could find them. The big one was about $20
Thats what you want, its cheap so just replace it. Give them that part number, or go to ford.
I just hope you didnt mess up the O-rings on that thing. They're expensive from ford and thats about the only place I could find them. The big one was about $20
Last edited by Morgan The Black; 02-25-2009 at 01:35 PM.
#6186
thanx for the advice guys. i wasnt sure about the al flywheel, was concerned most about lowering overall rotating mass/weight. hadnt considered a major effect on drivability.
i want the motor strong and reliable and as close to 400 crank hp as possible. it must be pump-gas friendly. ive owned a brand-x LS1, and it "called for" 93-octane, but ran fine on 87. i prefer the ability to run 87 mainly, 93 when i feel like it. do i need to change anything?
i'm pulling of my info from the SHM 4.6 book, my hands-on experience is with pushrod motors, and military diesels, so im a little out of my element.
i want the motor strong and reliable and as close to 400 crank hp as possible. it must be pump-gas friendly. ive owned a brand-x LS1, and it "called for" 93-octane, but ran fine on 87. i prefer the ability to run 87 mainly, 93 when i feel like it. do i need to change anything?
i'm pulling of my info from the SHM 4.6 book, my hands-on experience is with pushrod motors, and military diesels, so im a little out of my element.
#6189
It should not matter as the block is the same regardless of what heads are on there. The oil filter adapter bolts to the block and not the heads.
#6190
The only issues I've heard about are potential charging issues with UDP's on modular motors in general.
#6191
Ok guys, finally after looking and searching hard found myself a reasonable 5.4 engine. $200 dollars with trade of my 4.6L.
Now what parts do I have to swap to get the thing in my car. Rebuild will come later, as engine only has 20K on it. I konw I ahve to swap Oil pan and pickup, and for my t-45 I need a different flywheel?? (Dont konw which one though..help!)
Thanks for the assitance guys,
-tim
Now what parts do I have to swap to get the thing in my car. Rebuild will come later, as engine only has 20K on it. I konw I ahve to swap Oil pan and pickup, and for my t-45 I need a different flywheel?? (Dont konw which one though..help!)
Thanks for the assitance guys,
-tim
yep... that's about it.
That missing pulley could well be replaced with the big diameter smooth surfaced one off the 5.4. IIRC they're like 90mm.
thanx for the advice guys. i wasnt sure about the al flywheel, was concerned most about lowering overall rotating mass/weight. hadnt considered a major effect on drivability.
i want the motor strong and reliable and as close to 400 crank hp as possible. it must be pump-gas friendly. ive owned a brand-x LS1, and it "called for" 93-octane, but ran fine on 87. i prefer the ability to run 87 mainly, 93 when i feel like it. do i need to change anything?
i'm pulling of my info from the SHM 4.6 book, my hands-on experience is with pushrod motors, and military diesels, so im a little out of my element.
i want the motor strong and reliable and as close to 400 crank hp as possible. it must be pump-gas friendly. ive owned a brand-x LS1, and it "called for" 93-octane, but ran fine on 87. i prefer the ability to run 87 mainly, 93 when i feel like it. do i need to change anything?
i'm pulling of my info from the SHM 4.6 book, my hands-on experience is with pushrod motors, and military diesels, so im a little out of my element.
There has been a lot of talk in the truck/lightning world about UDP's helping to lead to oil pump gear failure. I don't see 3hp as being worth the effort. The nice bit of good UDP's is the SFI certified balancer, otherwise I don't see a reason to bother. Sell em and buy tires.
#6196
so i might not be getting as much back on my taxes as i had planned. does anyone have a 5.4 shortblock that you dont need and would be willing to sell. i need it to be able to be dropped in and not need a rebuild. i was planning on buying a new shortblock but now thats not gonna happen.
#6197
your best bet would be
Home of the Carbureted Modular Engine Parts!
they've got relatively cheap shortblocks
Home of the Carbureted Modular Engine Parts!
they've got relatively cheap shortblocks
#6199
ya thats the shortblock i was gonna get haha i was just hopin somebody had a used one that i could get cheaper and faster than that. o well i guess ill just save for a few more weeks after i get my taxes and get it anyway
#6200
i'd grab it if i had the cash right now, but great deal if you are in the area!
1998 FORD 5.4 TRITON ENGINE - $600 -
1998 FORD 5.4 TRITON ENGINE - $600 -
#6201
Might have something to do w/ the 4V filter adaptors, which is a adaptor/cooler combo. If you're using a 2V (no cooler) adaptor, then you're fine w/ that gasket.
#6202
Correct me if I'm wrong but the 2v's have a cooler too, the large canister JScottGT has in his picture. It might be different than a 4v cooler but thats what it looks like to me. The 4v does list a different gasket, looks like the oil holes might be a tiny bit larger.
#6203
Correct me if I'm wrong but the 2v's have a cooler too, the large canister JScottGT has in his picture. It might be different than a 4v cooler but thats what it looks like to me. The 4v does list a different gasket, looks like the oil holes might be a tiny bit larger.
#6204
I know it doesnt matter on the gasket, I just think its funny they list two different part numbers.
http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/x,ca...parttype,10649
http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/x,ca...parttype,10649
http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/x,ca...parttype,10649
http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/x,ca...parttype,10649
#6206
I'll check the status of the shipment when I get to TPS later today.
4.6 trucks came with the cast intakes. I can't find any of the 5.4's with them, well except for the lightning lowers.
4.6 trucks came with the cast intakes. I can't find any of the 5.4's with them, well except for the lightning lowers.
#6207
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...AQ:MOTORS:1123
Thats two piece too so it can be pulled apart to port. I'm just trying to find one thats PI if they exist. I didn't think so but someone I know on F150online.com has one that he claims is PI....
#6209
There are definately some cast 5.4 intakes....
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...AQ:MOTORS:1123
Thats two piece too so it can be pulled apart to port. I'm just trying to find one thats PI if they exist. I didn't think so but someone I know on F150online.com has one that he claims is PI....
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...AQ:MOTORS:1123
Thats two piece too so it can be pulled apart to port. I'm just trying to find one thats PI if they exist. I didn't think so but someone I know on F150online.com has one that he claims is PI....
#6210
Well Ford was nice enough to do alot of mix and matching for the '99 year. The engine I rebuilt, the 5.4 out of my dad's F150, had PI heads and a forged crank. It has that cast, 2 piece intake on it also. Supposedly they used both NPI and PI heads that year so it could be either one. Maybe we should ask Randy.