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View Poll Results: What are your 5.4L swap plans?
Not swapping. You guys are nuts for trying.
1.82%
Not swapping but find the topic interesting.
12.73%
Thinking about doing the swap but not in the next year.
16.82%
Definitely going to do the swap in the next year or so.
25.45%
Doing it now. Looking for an engine or awaiting delivery.
15.45%
Doing it now. Already bought an engine.
18.64%
Done. Got my 5.4L and showin my tail lights to camaro's every day.
7.73%
Screw 5.4, I'm going diesel 4cylinder.
1.36%
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Old 04-29-2008, 07:09 PM
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to the guy talking about 500 post all from this thread. more than 90% of mine are in here. hahaha.
 
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Old 04-29-2008, 10:07 PM
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those are from the all day/all nite fun of a all new tubular front suspension and coil over fronts and full long tube/off road x-pipe exhaust on a buddies 99 gt.
 
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i got another question for you guys....how did all of you put the engine in the car...i read quite a few pages back that r3d put it in through the bottom...did anyone put it in from the top??
which is easier??
 
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one more question i just thought of.....i know its not really a biggy but....i am put the 5.4 in a 97...so i have 2 coolant sensors...i am wanting to use the new 5.4 hardball'r...is there a way i can adapt that intake to use both temp sensors??

i noticed that hps sells a coolant mod...what is that for??
 
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Old 04-30-2008, 08:09 AM
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i put mine in from the top both times, once as just the motor and then with the tranny bolted to it
 
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i will be going through the top as well. i'm leaving the tranny in the car so that makes top removal/ install much easier.
and as far as coolant tubes , im sure assasin will bealbe to answer that for you easily.
 
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I installed mine from the top with the trans attached. It was a little tight getting it bye the brake booster, but it did drop right in. The key is to install it without the intake manifold attached and bolt your chains to the alternator bosses at the front and the upper 2 trans mount bolts at the rear. I also used a load leveler, which made manuvering the engine & trans much easier. You can see in this picture...
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r3d, can you post up some more information about the oil separator you installed? I think I am sucking oil into the intake manifold, and into the engine. I just changed the oil the other day and only ~3.5 of the 6 quarts came out. Plus I am having oil spitting out of the exhaust. Any thoughts?
 
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Old 04-30-2008, 02:35 PM
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Hi All! > Im wanting to do this, and it will be pretty **** if it all works out:

stock 5.4 (to start with) (have a melted piston 4.6 laying around)

apaptor plates, Stiegemeier ported/chromed out saleen series 2 @ 6-8 psi including tork tech polished metal elbow and huge oval t-body. (already have all the blower stuff)

I know its listed in this thread somewhere but can someone give me an outline of the pieces that need changing to fit into a stang.

This is all going in a 2004 Sonic blue gt with complete 03/4 cobra body conversion and interior. If someone can help me out that'd be awesome, i plan on ordering an engine within a week or so!
 
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Old 04-30-2008, 02:36 PM
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Also, any guesses as to if this would fit under the cobra hood?
 
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Old 04-30-2008, 03:29 PM
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R3d has a 5.4 and it fits under his stock hood.

Chad
 
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sure...

You'll need a 3/8"NPT water/oil air separator from your local Lowes/Home Depot. It'll have a clear base and should not leak air under pressure or vacuum. If it does, use epoxy to seal the leak. IT IS NOT A REGULATOR. I'll post the part number later on.

Then, you use -6NPT barb fitting at the PVC valve into a -6 AN teflon core braided hose, run that to the inlet of the filter, and another -6 line out. Tap the upper plenum at the PCV inlet for 3/8" NPT and screw in a 3/8NPT male to -6AN male adapter, screw on your hose and viola... you're filtering.

Please see my home page www.squarerootofone.com/sroprods.html for more detail on the OAS. If you'd like to build one or order one, let me know and I'll hook you up.
 
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Old 04-30-2008, 07:37 PM
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Just a little video of it running

http://www.youtube.com/v/CWz9Sum8sB4&hl=en
 
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Old 04-30-2008, 09:58 PM
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CD that thing looks and sounds AMAZING !!!


Congratulations !!!
 
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Old 04-30-2008, 10:30 PM
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wow, that was so smooth. my wife watched it and said "thats panty downing power"
 
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Old 04-30-2008, 10:55 PM
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awesome!!!
 
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Originally Posted by myillwillinc
those are from the all day/all nite fun of a all new tubular front suspension and coil over fronts and full long tube/off road x-pipe exhaust on a buddies 99 gt.
soon it will be a 5.4 instead of a sissy 4.6


r3d, what exactly is needed for us to make the bbk lt's we just put on fit a 5.4?
 
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Old 05-01-2008, 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by cxm
R3d has a 5.4 and it fits under his stock hood.

Chad
I dont think that's with a positive displacement blower?
 
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Originally Posted by WhiteStang97
one more question i just thought of.....i know its not really a biggy but....i am put the 5.4 in a 97...so i have 2 coolant sensors...i am wanting to use the new 5.4 hardball'r...is there a way i can adapt that intake to use both temp sensors??

i noticed that hps sells a coolant mod...what is that for??

anyone???
 
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Old 05-01-2008, 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by cdjnight
Just a little video of it running

http://www.youtube.com/v/CWz9Sum8sB4&hl=en
Caused a hardon that lifted the desk. That thing sounds infuggincredible. Great work man.

Originally Posted by SleepingGT
soon it will be a 5.4 instead of a sissy 4.6


r3d, what exactly is needed for us to make the bbk lt's we just put on fit a 5.4?
Dunno exactly, there's a couple guys around that have done it. They've intimated that the passenger side pipes need fiddling with to clear the frame rail, which would seem to suggest that the primaries need chopped down a 1/4" and welded back on to the flange.

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I dont think that's with a positive displacement blower?
Definitely not. I may do a centri after not too long though.
 
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Old 05-01-2008, 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by WhiteStang97
anyone???
coolant mod keeps the back cylinders on the driver side cool. There's a flow flaw stock that doesn't do well at higher temps like hot rodders see.

The sensor question has been answered. Use a Tee or tap and thread the crossover for the 2nd 3/8" NPT hole. There's a boss cast in to support it IIRC.
 
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thats something i forgot to do. where do u get it?
 
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Originally Posted by myillwillinc
thats something i forgot to do. where do u get it?
i'll show you next time i'm at your house
 
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Old 05-02-2008, 10:13 AM
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r3d- here is a test for your dyno software. my 5.5 with the vortech V-1 at 10psi with the new hardball intake and the custom one with the lighting lower and cobra upper. what would be the numbers?
 
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Old 05-02-2008, 12:39 PM
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working on it...

Looking like around 425rwhp. Set up the fuel for at least 500bhp. A bigger or more efficient blower will net bigger power at the same boost. The 425 is un-intercooled. Intercooling would be worth around 25hp or so at the same boost pressure.
 
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Old 05-02-2008, 01:45 PM
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only 425? i figured it would be around 500rwhp with all the mods helping the blower get the air in and out. 425 would mean the blower would only givearound 100rwhp, it that the average?
 
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Old 05-02-2008, 01:53 PM
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that was based on DD's vision of what a V1 is and discounts the headers and intake entirely... the dyno sim just uses a stock "forced induction exhaust" and intake value which skews the numbers a bit. I need to verify the flow data for the blower as well.

Consider that a v1 on a 4.6 at 10psi does about 70hp less than you're seeing... it's not bad. You lose some boost out of the valve overlap with your cam too. You can afford to bump the pulley size down a notch though and that should get you close. What reads 12psi at the manifold will probably end up 10psi in the cylinder.
 
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so it doesn't have the hardball or long tubes in the eqaution?
 
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Thanks guys I will have a better daylight video soon, I gotta say I did a first gear WOT and at 8 psi and 10-1 a/f the thing pulled like my old 9 second Wild street car. Seat of the pants feel and head thrown back was unlike any 4.6 i have been in.
 
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cant wait to see what numbers she makes
 


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