Just as I expected:

http://www.modularfords.com/forums/m...e-55016-4.html

 

That's pretty crappy. I'm glad i haven't wasted my money.

 

As most of us predicted. *cues up another one bite the dust

 

cmon guys... 1 test that wasn't exactly done scientifically much less well (no baseline prior to the swap, no tune adjustment, rednecking it with buggered up intake gaskets and not having noticed). I'll want to see more than 1 ragged edge blower car test it before I'll draw any conclusions.

What I see is a crappy test and predictable results. I'll be testing the PP Typhoon on my 5.4 2V (so will a few others from this board). We'll have more scientific testing with baseline runs on the same day as the Typhoon.

If you're predicting massive power from the PI intake design then you're fooling yourself. If you believe HP claims from any part, you're a fool. If one improperly done test is convincing you it's crap, you give up easily.

I think you'll get exactly a portable/extrude-honable PI intake that won't go to pieces at the slightest nitrous backfire and one that will handle any level of boost.

Calling it crappy because it gave exactly what you should expect is kinda silly.

 

Yes, maybe the results were slightly questionable....BUT, if it is as good as the manufacturer claims, don't you think that it would have taken off like crazy as the "MUST HAVE MOD"?

 

no. it's a great intake for what it's for. it's a well executed replacement for a plastic piece of ****. It's top shelf fit and finish out of the box. It's an answer to a specific set of questions, not some miracle pill that ignoramii can slap on a motor and become a rocket ship to the moon. The PI intake was almost perfect from the get-go. What makes anyone think (think being a key word and a prerequisite) that the EXACT same design as stock is going to be substantially better performing?

edit: the point is, I think it's a fabulous execution at a really stellar price. I'll trust more results from more professional testing regimes and not a half assed attempt that started out with a negative note.

 

I honestly think that test was done pretty well. The guy did back to back dyno runs on the same day with the only variable being which intake was on. OK, so the first attempt he got some buggered up gaskets, but they weren't the ones that were used on the dyno. Secondly I agree, the intake is the exact same as a plastic PI piece. It is metal and it's going to hold more heat than the plastic one. That makes it not the ideal intake for a mildly boosted engine. Maybe something with HUGE boost numbers and a ported intake it would be worth it. Also anyone running a big N2O shot should be happy to have this intake, especially if PP figured out how to minimize or eliminate N2O puddling.

 

it read to me like he was having fuel (and maybe tune) problems with the plastic piece in place which draws his comparisons into question via the inclusion of an unknown problem, and second that he had to go back for a test on a different day then excused the extreme lack of repeatable results from his motor on the weather, which was probably the case. Even if he did swap the intakes that day for a back to back test, he was already crapping all over it in print. The writeup was poor, the testing was imprecise and his expectations were symptomatic of someone that BELIEVES MARKETING PROPOGANDA.

To eliminate fuel puddling in wet nitrous systems, use a traditional direct port system (which is now possible with this new intake and the HPS Hardball'r) or a NOS NOSzle system which I like a little more. The problem of puddling only exists because we shoot fuel into a manifold that wasn't designed to accomodate fuel suspended in the air charge. The upcoming HPS Hardball'r is one that you can expect to substantially affect performance on blower cars. NA cars will have the power band pushed out a bit in all likelihood but I'm not sure about any gains since there are cam issues in the way of much change.

 

SO, is there any proven intake right now that is good?

 

^ point misser.

stock is good but fragile. bullit is good, Typhoon is good. They're all good, just not much better than stock.

Reichard is great. HPS Hardball'r looks to be great (pending testing).

 

http://www.hiperformancesolutions.com/

 

that's not proven... yet. I'm pretty sure it will be shown to add value though.