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Old 12-12-2010 | 09:02 PM
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Hey guys, i know its been a while since i posted, let alone anything mustang related. But ive been a bit concerned about what to do with my life and etc. Im very heavily considering going into the air force and trying to get a scholarship with them and enroll as an officer. I know what the air force has to offer a little bit, and im mostly doing so with them instead of say the army or marines because standard of living and other stuff. Went to an air force base and the housing seemed much nicer and ive heard they get nicer gear and etc. It would be extremely awesome to be able to fly, but i know that only like 4% of the people in the airforce actually fly. Im gunna go take the ASVAB pretty soon here to see what my possibilities are, but id also like to see if you guys have any input. Please no BS, im sure i could very easily get that from a recruiter.
 
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Old 12-12-2010 | 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Deathdiesel
Hey guys, i know its been a while since i posted, let alone anything mustang related. But ive been a bit concerned about what to do with my life and etc. Im very heavily considering going into the air force and trying to get a scholarship with them and enroll as an officer. I know what the air force has to offer a little bit, and im mostly doing so with them instead of say the army or marines because standard of living and other stuff. Went to an air force base and the housing seemed much nicer and ive heard they get nicer gear and etc. It would be extremely awesome to be able to fly, but i know that only like 4% of the people in the airforce actually fly. Im gunna go take the ASVAB pretty soon here to see what my possibilities are, but id also like to see if you guys have any input. Please no BS, im sure i could very easily get that from a recruiter.
My Dad was in the Airforce, and my Grandfather too. They both were stationed all around the world... places like Turkey, Okinawa, London, etc. My Dad handled communications I think. He keeps trying to get me to join, but I'm not sure if I'm going to. But they both loved it.
 
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Old 12-12-2010 | 09:59 PM
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Probably would do you nothing but good. Id do it if I were 10 years younger.
 
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Old 12-12-2010 | 11:09 PM
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LOL chair force. (army rivalry thing.)

but seriously, air force would be a good career choice. my uncle did it for 25 years and recently retired as an E7, with a good pension check every month. i recommend it.
 
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Old 12-13-2010 | 10:08 AM
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I think the military is is good choice for the young people. You have to have the right "mindset" for any branch of the armed forces though. You must be able to adapt easily and be willing to eat large doses of **** at a moments notice.

If you like to travel the world and be away from home for long periods of time then the military is the place. The Air Force has always been the top of the line branch as long as I can remember(better quarters, better food, better everthing).

I would say just think about it long and hard before you sign on and make sure this is for you. Good Luck!!!
 
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Old 12-13-2010 | 10:26 AM
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Do it. I'm deployed right now but I've been in 5 years. It has its shitty times but its also better than any other branch when it comes to living and quality of life.

As for the officer side of things I don't much about flyers and what you will need to do to become one but I work around aircraft and they are usually nothing but smiles.
 
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Old 12-13-2010 | 10:37 AM
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Being an air force officer is my LAST resort if I cant find a job and enjoy civilian life. Then i'd apply.

Try college out and go for a bachelors degree, and if that doesn't work out for you, apply for Officer positions.
 
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Old 12-13-2010 | 12:15 PM
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I'd probably join if they could guarantee me a pilot slot. but they can't..so civilian copters I shall fly
 
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Old 12-13-2010 | 03:12 PM
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I've considered the same thing, except I already (well, in five days) have a bachelors. I need to talk to a recruiter or someone that can tell me more about what I could do for the Air Force, what they could do for me. Goal would be to become an officer. I really don't know anyone who has regreted serving in the military.
 
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Old 12-13-2010 | 09:39 PM
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My main goal would to become an officer, better pay, less **** thrown in my direction, and more say so of what i can possibly do. The whole traveling idea though...Not so much of a fan of the traveling. ID like to be able to find a civilian job but everywhere ive applied being in high school still doesnt want my ***. I traveled a lot in my life, seen just about everything id ever really want to out of country/state, Germany, France, Alaska, Washington, Hawaii, a few places i cant even remember. A reason why im considering the air force is because they basically have anything id most likely wanna do, has scholarships, would keep me fit(i would assume), and teach me some discipline, which im not lacking much, but i guess it couldnt hurt.
 
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Old 12-13-2010 | 11:26 PM
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Your profile says your 27 and last I knew you had to be 28 or younger to join Active Duty Air Force. This same rule may apply for Officer program. Also, I do not know this word for word but the Air Force scholarship can be done a few different ways BUT is highly competitive. One way is to join up as enlisted get a AFSC (Job) learn your job while going to school toward the degree you choose. I cant remember the exact name of this program but the way it works is that you are relieved from active duty and put in to selective reserve status. The air force pays for your schooling 100% of the way and give you E-5 pay and E-5 dependent rate BAH until you graduate. The program is full of win and the benefit is that you get to go back to active duty as a second lieutenant. There are other programs to get you into the military as a officer like ROTC but those dont pay you anything. You do all of the work pay on your own and the air force will accept you with a certain amount of student loan debt.

The best thing to do is talk to the recruiters...even though recruiters are enlisted they are well versed in Officer placement. If they cant get you the information on the spot in the office they will get back to you later after they do some research.

I'm prior service Air Force and only seen one person in my 7 years go Officer from Enlisted. This mostly was because everyone i knew including myself was not motivated enough to finish or even start a degree program that would land us in the O-1 pay grade.
 
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Old 12-14-2010 | 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Deathdiesel
My main goal would to become an officer, better pay, less **** thrown in my direction, and more say so of what i can possibly do. The whole traveling idea though...Not so much of a fan of the traveling. ID like to be able to find a civilian job but everywhere ive applied being in high school still doesnt want my ***. I traveled a lot in my life, seen just about everything id ever really want to out of country/state, Germany, France, Alaska, Washington, Hawaii, a few places i cant even remember. A reason why im considering the air force is because they basically have anything id most likely wanna do, has scholarships, would keep me fit(i would assume), and teach me some discipline, which im not lacking much, but i guess it couldnt hurt.
So are you still in high school? Little confused there. If so, why are you getting discouraged you're not getting jobs? What kind of jobs are you applying for? It's hard to get a well paying job if you don't have the experience. Start low and work your way up.
 
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Old 12-14-2010 | 01:52 PM
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Yeah, it is almost impossible. The best choices are grocery stores and flippin burgers, or telemarketing, but those don't pay well. I honestly recommend that you start at a community college and get an associates degree, then transfer to a university and get a bachelors. Then apply for officer position. If that's what you really want. Because if all else fails, you always have your degrees.
 
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Old 12-14-2010 | 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by stanger00
Your profile says your 27 and last I knew you had to be 28 or younger to join Active Duty Air Force. This same rule may apply for Officer program. Also, I do not know this word for word but the Air Force scholarship can be done a few different ways BUT is highly competitive. One way is to join up as enlisted get a AFSC (Job) learn your job while going to school toward the degree you choose. I cant remember the exact name of this program but the way it works is that you are relieved from active duty and put in to selective reserve status. The air force pays for your schooling 100% of the way and give you E-5 pay and E-5 dependent rate BAH until you graduate. The program is full of win and the benefit is that you get to go back to active duty as a second lieutenant. There are other programs to get you into the military as a officer like ROTC but those dont pay you anything. You do all of the work pay on your own and the air force will accept you with a certain amount of student loan debt.

The best thing to do is talk to the recruiters...even though recruiters are enlisted they are well versed in Officer placement. If they cant get you the information on the spot in the office they will get back to you later after they do some research.

I'm prior service Air Force and only seen one person in my 7 years go Officer from Enlisted. This mostly was because everyone i knew including myself was not motivated enough to finish or even start a degree program that would land us in the O-1 pay grade.
The cut off age now is 32 if I'm not mistaken. I know you can still get in over the age of 28 though.
 
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Old 12-14-2010 | 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by j_gutta870
The cut off age now is 32 if I'm not mistaken. I know you can still get in over the age of 28 though.
For enlisted the cut off is still 28. You have to be 27 when you enter BMT. Prior enlisted can get a waiver and rejoin after 28. Say you serve 4 years get out at 22 and want to rejoin at 30. The air force will view you as you are still 26.

Officers are a little different. They have to be commissioned before the age of 35. BUT, if you want to be a pilot you have to be commissioned and enter flight training before the age of 30. That is for any aircraft not just the fast burners.

This information is all in respect to active duty. Not guard or reserve. Those 2 branches have different age limit standards.
 
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Old 12-15-2010 | 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by krenogin
Yeah, it is almost impossible. The best choices are grocery stores and flippin burgers, or telemarketing, but those don't pay well. I honestly recommend that you start at a community college and get an associates degree, then transfer to a university and get a bachelors. Then apply for officer position. If that's what you really want. Because if all else fails, you always have your degrees.
That doesn't always mean anything. Still doesn't guarantee you a job. If you can find a decent job somewhere and start low and work your way up, then that's always a good option. I've been with the same company for 7 years now and have had 5 positions. All a move up and the last two positions I've had required a degree, but guess what, I don't have one. I worked hard and showed that I could do the work no matter what. My friend is a structural engineer with a masters degree and I make more than he does. Granted, he is underpaid at his job, but still.

Just really consider your options and what you want to do. Don't jump into anything just because it might be hard finding something.
 
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Old 12-20-2010 | 09:58 AM
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Cool thanks guys. Definatley gave me a bit more of what the air force has to offer and etc. Im still undecided, and i think im gunna end up going into college still not knowing, but luckily there are still opportunities beyond that so im not gunna worry my *** off. And yes im 17 not 27, idk why my profile says otherwise. Anyways thanks for all the advice guys.
 
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Old 12-21-2010 | 08:22 AM
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If you want to be an officer in the Air Force you need to be accepted to the academy or OCS. http://ezinearticles.com/?How-to-Get...demy&id=616793 is how to get into the academy. Now's the time to plan.

If you want a really serious challenge and a place at the tip of the spear, then obtaining a Marine commission might be something to look at. Being a Marine isn't for everyone but if you're tough enough and smart enough to be a USMC officer it's a hell of a lot easier to get there. http://officer.marines.com/marine/ma...oning_programs shows you the available approaches. Don't count on elisted to commissioned. That only happens in a war and usually after a TON of bad things happen to you in a row. http://officer.marines.com/marine/ma..._leaders_class shows how to get there from here. The marines fly too. They fly fast.

Whichever branch you choose, you NEED to finish college first. Trust me, the only way to become an officer is to have a degree already. It makes admission into OCS a shitton easier to obtain.

No, I'm not nor have been an officer. The offer they gave me was conditional upon passing MEPS. I failed the hearing test. BONED!
 
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