What do you do for a living?
#61
03-16-2008 | 01:01 PM
banzai
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 4,546
From: South Jersey
Iam an apprentice electrician out of IBEW local 428. Right now im working for a large contractor building a hospital. 5 year apprenticeship, after its all said and done ill have a degree in it, can basically tell you anything regarding electricity.
Right now im on a commercial job, probably in the next year ill be building or re-doing a powerplant. once i turn out i plan on going to san jose or san fran, where the big dollars are.
Right now im on a commercial job, probably in the next year ill be building or re-doing a powerplant. once i turn out i plan on going to san jose or san fran, where the big dollars are.
#62
03-17-2008 | 09:02 AM
THE ONLY DARK GREEN VERT
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 466
From: denver
I have a pretty simple job....
I work at the corporate office of The Sports Authority.
I maintain our servers and keep everything running smoothly....
pretty simple eh?? (not if you know what it really entails...I hate symantec!!!!)
the way i see it, im 24, making 50K/yr, have a stang, great woman and a baby on the way; I'm happy!
I work at the corporate office of The Sports Authority.
I maintain our servers and keep everything running smoothly....
pretty simple eh?? (not if you know what it really entails...I hate symantec!!!!)
the way i see it, im 24, making 50K/yr, have a stang, great woman and a baby on the way; I'm happy!
#65
03-17-2008 | 10:09 AM
Wowbagger hates me too!
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 9,865
From: Magrathea/California
You know... from LONG experience, if you're interested in supercharging your career and watching your salary skyrocket spend as much time as you can learning Linux, BSD and OSX. There's a zillion just windows and just xNIX guys but knowing both makes you a hot property.
I started life as a NT admin and I still do a bit when needed but when I spent the time to learn the xNIX's my pay doubled and all the really super weird and stupid things about Windows suddenly started to make sense and eventually knowing Linux/Unix makes dealing with Microsoft's ineptness in certain areas really easy to overcome.
I started life as a NT admin and I still do a bit when needed but when I spent the time to learn the xNIX's my pay doubled and all the really super weird and stupid things about Windows suddenly started to make sense and eventually knowing Linux/Unix makes dealing with Microsoft's ineptness in certain areas really easy to overcome.
#67
03-17-2008 | 10:17 AM
THE ONLY DARK GREEN VERT
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From: denver
You know... from LONG experience, if you're interested in supercharging your career and watching your salary skyrocket spend as much time as you can learning Linux, BSD and OSX. There's a zillion just windows and just xNIX guys but knowing both makes you a hot property.
I started life as a NT admin and I still do a bit when needed but when I spent the time to learn the xNIX's my pay doubled and all the really super weird and stupid things about Windows suddenly started to make sense and eventually knowing Linux/Unix makes dealing with Microsoft's ineptness in certain areas really easy to overcome.
I started life as a NT admin and I still do a bit when needed but when I spent the time to learn the xNIX's my pay doubled and all the really super weird and stupid things about Windows suddenly started to make sense and eventually knowing Linux/Unix makes dealing with Microsoft's ineptness in certain areas really easy to overcome.
I've run em all (red had, fedora, suse, DSL, etc) but never thought of getting as good with them as i am with windows....
i dont think i know a single *nix command..... to me it's like learning a different language.
#68
03-18-2008 | 11:31 AM
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Joined: Nov 2005
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From: Magrathea/California
I'd start with RedHat's Fedora line. Many will say Ubuntu but they're telling you that so it's easy for you to use and not so much so it's easy to learn the advanced SA side of things. Once you've nailed Fedora down you're pretty well good to go exploring the others. I'd probably go Fedora, SuSe, Gentoo, Debian, Ubuntu.
Just remember that Unix came first and so you'll see a lot of parallels of stuff that was incorporated into Windows. Try not to draw mental parallels between the two until you're comfortable in the xNIX world. Then the parallels will draw themselves. If you have too many pre-conceived notions of Linux then you'll find it pretty confusing. It's really bizarrely easy. Easier than windows... at least it gives you useful error logging.
Just remember that Unix came first and so you'll see a lot of parallels of stuff that was incorporated into Windows. Try not to draw mental parallels between the two until you're comfortable in the xNIX world. Then the parallels will draw themselves. If you have too many pre-conceived notions of Linux then you'll find it pretty confusing. It's really bizarrely easy. Easier than windows... at least it gives you useful error logging.
Last edited by r3dn3ck; 03-18-2008 at 11:39 AM.
#69
03-18-2008 | 12:45 PM
jjtgiants
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 4,177
From: Dublin, CA
I'd start with RedHat's Fedora line. Many will say Ubuntu but they're telling you that so it's easy for you to use and not so much so it's easy to learn the advanced SA side of things. Once you've nailed Fedora down you're pretty well good to go exploring the others. I'd probably go Fedora, SuSe, Gentoo, Debian, Ubuntu.
Just remember that Unix came first and so you'll see a lot of parallels of stuff that was incorporated into Windows. Try not to draw mental parallels between the two until you're comfortable in the xNIX world. Then the parallels will draw themselves. If you have too many pre-conceived notions of Linux then you'll find it pretty confusing. It's really bizarrely easy. Easier than windows... at least it gives you useful error logging.
Just remember that Unix came first and so you'll see a lot of parallels of stuff that was incorporated into Windows. Try not to draw mental parallels between the two until you're comfortable in the xNIX world. Then the parallels will draw themselves. If you have too many pre-conceived notions of Linux then you'll find it pretty confusing. It's really bizarrely easy. Easier than windows... at least it gives you useful error logging.
#70
03-18-2008 | 01:11 PM
THE ONLY DARK GREEN VERT
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 466
From: denver
Thanks for the info R3D, I'll load up Fedora and maybe KDE, start from there.....
would you recommend a complete immersion or maybe a side pc that runs it.... I have an EEE that is native Linux, I could just take XP off and go from there. Default is Xandros... that ok?
#72
03-18-2008 | 10:21 PM
Blowns the only way!!!
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 788
I have a pretty simple job....
I work at the corporate office of The Sports Authority.
I maintain our servers and keep everything running smoothly....
pretty simple eh?? (not if you know what it really entails...I hate symantec!!!!)
the way i see it, im 24, making 50K/yr, have a stang, great woman and a baby on the way; I'm happy!
I work at the corporate office of The Sports Authority.
I maintain our servers and keep everything running smoothly....
pretty simple eh?? (not if you know what it really entails...I hate symantec!!!!)
the way i see it, im 24, making 50K/yr, have a stang, great woman and a baby on the way; I'm happy!
#73
03-19-2008 | 07:22 AM
Wowbagger hates me too!
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 9,865
From: Magrathea/California
been there, still do a lot of DB architecture and admin work but I'm tellin ya' even DBA don't pay what just being a generalist does for as little effort as it takes.
It is in fact a thinking mans game. DB's are unforgiving of poor initial design and even less forgiving of poor maintenance and repair.
As a generalist, I find it insulting if the offer has less than 6 zeros in it.
It is in fact a thinking mans game. DB's are unforgiving of poor initial design and even less forgiving of poor maintenance and repair.
As a generalist, I find it insulting if the offer has less than 6 zeros in it.
#74
03-19-2008 | 08:03 AM
Blowns the only way!!!
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 788
been there, still do a lot of DB architecture and admin work but I'm tellin ya' even DBA don't pay what just being a generalist does for as little effort as it takes.
It is in fact a thinking mans game. DB's are unforgiving of poor initial design and even less forgiving of poor maintenance and repair.
As a generalist, I find it insulting if the offer has less than 6 zeros in it.
It is in fact a thinking mans game. DB's are unforgiving of poor initial design and even less forgiving of poor maintenance and repair.
As a generalist, I find it insulting if the offer has less than 6 zeros in it.
#75
03-19-2008 | 08:38 AM
THE ONLY DARK GREEN VERT
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 466
From: denver
sorry, i do not want to be a DBA..... not my style
.... i fear we (I) have hijacked this thread....
sorry guys
on that note, im restoring the EEE to linux today. whoo!!!
and adding a Fedora VM to my vmware.
.... i fear we (I) have hijacked this thread....
sorry guys
on that note, im restoring the EEE to linux today. whoo!!!
and adding a Fedora VM to my vmware.
#77
03-19-2008 | 02:54 PM
Senior Member
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 540
From: Rochester NY
Heres a better idea of what i do on a daily basis. I'm the one on the left in this video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uChptsZi-oE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uChptsZi-oE
#78
03-19-2008 | 02:57 PM
Wowbagger hates me too!
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 9,865
From: Magrathea/California
good point... depends on the gig I guess. Contract, better have 6 zeros or I pass. I only really do large contracts that have starting hardware costs of 1/2 million bucks plus sub-contractor costs... I usually end up with a nice share but under a million total value isn't worth the effort cuz I can't squeak enough profit out of it.
W2, I'll settle for early 6 figure.
W2, I'll settle for early 6 figure.
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