XBOX360 vs PS3
#31
12-08-2006, 01:52 PM
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lol
gotta love older technology. I remember my first Hi8 Camcorder. weight about 4lbs, felt nice and substancial. My new Video Camera burns directly to mini DVD's and is tiny as ****! weighs like, 1lb.
#32
12-08-2006, 01:56 PM
That's sweet! I was in disneyland a few weeks ago and I saw some dude using a old VHS camera that was so big it looked like it needed two people to work it. ha ha ha
#33
12-08-2006, 01:57 PM
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LOL.... that bad boy looks like it could take down an ICBM! What is that... 2 mega pixel?
lol
gotta love older technology. I remember my first Hi8 Camcorder. weight about 4lbs, felt nice and substancial. My new Video Camera burns directly to mini DVD's and is tiny as ****! weighs like, 1lb.
lol
gotta love older technology. I remember my first Hi8 Camcorder. weight about 4lbs, felt nice and substancial. My new Video Camera burns directly to mini DVD's and is tiny as ****! weighs like, 1lb.
The only thing I don't like about the new DVD cam's is the 30min discs, I think they make a 60 min disc now, but it's just alot less time than a Mini DV tape that has just as good of quality.
But I would much rather have a mini hd camera.. If/ when I get a camcorder it will be a mini hard drive camera. Im going to get another new Digital Camera first though, I want a Canon.
#34
12-08-2006, 01:57 PM
I was in the same spot as you Greg. I bought PS2 over Xbox because the only game on Xbox you couldn't get on PS2 that was any good was Halo. Everything else about PS2 was better. I would say go with the 360 though. I've got friends who have both. 360's online is about 10,000x better and their new controllers are pretty sweet. Gears of War is ****in' incredible and Halo 3 is going to be too damn sweet. PS3 will probably have another GTA, but I don't see it really being anything different than 360, and pretty much all the other games are multi-platform.
360 will also have GTA 4 when it comes out im pretty sure before sony has it.. because i havent heard anything about it being on ps3 only 360
#35
12-08-2006, 01:58 PM
Yea, my buddy bought this portable disk player from Sony a while back. It was right before MP3s became popular. It played disks that are similar to UMD, but the case was square and they held more than a CD with music files on it, but not nearly as much as a CD with high-mat MP3's on it. It cost him like 200 bucks and half of the population have never heard of it.
#36
12-08-2006, 07:30 PM
I dunno, i dont have much faith that Blue-Ray or HD DVD will either nudge DVD out of the market.
Thats the thing. While a good quality picture is important, it is convenience that really drives consumers to the product. MP3 is a perfect example of this. SACD and DVD-Audio both failed misertably.
So now instead of SACD and DVD-Audio, it is Blue-Ray and HD DVD both which require more pricey equipment and dont offer any added conveniences. It will go the way of Laser-disc (Which was far superior to VHS but never took off cause it was a large highly expencive and clumsy system)
Blue Ray and HD DVD.... Well.... all they require is for you to go buy another big ****ing TV to replace the Big ****ing TV you bought 2 years ago to get full capability. They offer NO added conveniences.
Both are doomed to fail. Simply put, most people are more than satisfied with the cinemagraphic experienced provided by a $200 progressive scan DVD player and a $1,000 tv.
There is no point in considering PS3's Blue Ray Technology, and Xbox's bolt on HD DVD system, when it comes to purchasing the product. You know why? Cause all it will end up being is HD Beta-Max.
Thats the thing. While a good quality picture is important, it is convenience that really drives consumers to the product. MP3 is a perfect example of this. SACD and DVD-Audio both failed misertably.
So now instead of SACD and DVD-Audio, it is Blue-Ray and HD DVD both which require more pricey equipment and dont offer any added conveniences. It will go the way of Laser-disc (Which was far superior to VHS but never took off cause it was a large highly expencive and clumsy system)
Blue Ray and HD DVD.... Well.... all they require is for you to go buy another big ****ing TV to replace the Big ****ing TV you bought 2 years ago to get full capability. They offer NO added conveniences.
Both are doomed to fail. Simply put, most people are more than satisfied with the cinemagraphic experienced provided by a $200 progressive scan DVD player and a $1,000 tv.
There is no point in considering PS3's Blue Ray Technology, and Xbox's bolt on HD DVD system, when it comes to purchasing the product. You know why? Cause all it will end up being is HD Beta-Max.
You also talk about the price of eqipment to play the other formats being 10K+ while an MP3 player is a few hundred. Well that isnt really relevant for movies either. You dont have to spend near 10K to get the full benefit of HD-DVD or Blue Ray movies even now when the price of the players are 500+. The players and HDTV prices will continue to fall so it will be more affordable to the mass public.
I have a 37" Olevia 1080i HDTV ($699)
An XBOX 360 and HD drive ($600)
Polk Audio Speakers and Sub ($600)
A Harman Kardon Reciever ($200 reburbished from HK)
Thats less than 2K for a complete home theater setup to play, use, and see the difference of HD.
Large HDTVs are getting much more affordable and the HD format movies will also come down in price. There is a very clear difference between HD movies and DVD movies. People will spend the extra $$ for the player and movies to use the capabilities they paid for with their large screen TVs.
I dont think they will totally whipe out DVDs like the DVD did to VHS but one of the two HD formats will win out and for movie buffs and really anyone who wants the full benefit of buying an HDTV will buy them.
#37
12-08-2006, 07:37 PM
wtf?!
what the heck are CDs and cassettes?
All i ever heard of was 8tracks and vinals?
lol...
Well i get that xbox360 > ps3
all the same games + xbox only ones (except a small few i suppose)
Now heres another question...
may sound crazy... but... I dont really care for that xbox controller... IMO, the Playstation controller was and still is by far the simplist, confortable controller ever made... can i buy a ps control for the xbox?
what the heck are CDs and cassettes?
All i ever heard of was 8tracks and vinals?
lol...
Well i get that xbox360 > ps3
all the same games + xbox only ones (except a small few i suppose)
Now heres another question...
may sound crazy... but... I dont really care for that xbox controller... IMO, the Playstation controller was and still is by far the simplist, confortable controller ever made... can i buy a ps control for the xbox?
#38
12-08-2006, 07:44 PM
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Sorry, but that system wont cut it. In fact, audio wise it wont even produce what DVD is capable of. I like polk, i like HK, but the sound alone will not have the soundstage, imaging, or power to do it as well as it could be done. As far as the HDTV, i seriously have doubts to the quality of reproduction of the no-name brands. Im sure it looks great, but it aint gonna show the full potential of the HD formats by a long shot.
In fact, i would venture to say 95% of consumers dont even have a system that will BEGIN to show the full potential of a simple DVD.
The ONLY Benefit of Blue ray and HD DVD is the 1080I and 1080P resolution.
not enough people care enough about the format to go out and spend 600 bucks on a blue ray player and upgrade the TV they already own to do a high res movie.
As i daid, the ONLY reason DVD really took off is because it was far more conenient than VHS.
Laserdisc has been around for freakuin eons. Ever notice that nobody thought it was worth the bother? sure you could skip tracks . but you also had to flip the movie and the players were pricey.
However, laser disc DID do full 5.1 dolby digital surround sound years before DVD even came out. Back when it was known as AC-3 surround. Lazerdisc also had far far better resolution than VHS.
but it never made it anywhere except within a few private collectors homes.
Oh yah, and DVD did NOT have competition.
that is why i have absolutly no faith in either Blue-ray or HD DVD. Especially cause of the competition. Does anybody here really think that both can co-exist? Yeah, i'd love to see Blockbuster increase thier inventory 3-fold so they can have DVD (aint going nowhere) AND Blue-Ray, AND HD-DVD....
If one of them just disappeared, then yeah, i see a potential, but i still woudlnt get my hopes up. This is gonna be a novelty, a niche market that never pans out......
EDIT: Lets say this. Blue Ray and HD DVD are really designed for a HOME THEATER where the full potential can be unleashed. As are DVD's. A "Surround sound setup" is far from a HOME THEATER........
For the incremental improvement, the cost does not justify it, especially since one of both of the formats will be dead in a few years. Early adopters get burned when you have format wars. Why spend 600 on a blue ray or HD DVD player when there is a 50 50 chance it will be obsolete in a couple years and you will have to buy the other format?
#39
12-08-2006, 07:46 PM
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wtf?!
what the heck are CDs and cassettes?
All i ever heard of was 8tracks and vinals?
lol...
Well i get that xbox360 > ps3
all the same games + xbox only ones (except a small few i suppose)
Now heres another question...
may sound crazy... but... I dont really care for that xbox controller... IMO, the Playstation controller was and still is by far the simplist, confortable controller ever made... can i buy a ps control for the xbox?
what the heck are CDs and cassettes?
All i ever heard of was 8tracks and vinals?
lol...
Well i get that xbox360 > ps3
all the same games + xbox only ones (except a small few i suppose)
Now heres another question...
may sound crazy... but... I dont really care for that xbox controller... IMO, the Playstation controller was and still is by far the simplist, confortable controller ever made... can i buy a ps control for the xbox?
#41
12-08-2006, 07:48 PM
the system you listed above will not nearly get you the calibur of what Blue Ray or HD DVD will produce.
Sorry, but that system wont cut it. In fact, audio wise it wont even produce what DVD is capable of. I like polk, i like HK, but the sound alone will not have the soundstage, imaging, or power to do it as well as it could be done. As far as the HDTV, i seriously have doubts to the quality of reproduction of the no-name brands. Im sure it looks great, but it aint gonna show the full potential of the HD formats by a long shot.
In fact, i would venture to say 95% of consumers dont even have a system that will BEGIN to show the full potential of a simple DVD.
The ONLY Benefit of Blue ray and HD DVD is the 1080I and 1080P resolution.
not enough people care enough about the format to go out and spend 600 bucks on a blue ray player and upgrade the TV they already own to do a high res movie.
As i daid, the ONLY reason DVD really took off is because it was far more conenient than VHS.
Laserdisc has been around for freakuin eons. Ever notice that nobody thought it was worth the bother? sure you could skip tracks . but you also had to flip the movie and the players were pricey.
However, laser disc DID do full 5.1 dolby digital surround sound years before DVD even came out. Back when it was known as AC-3 surround. Lazerdisc also had far far better resolution than VHS.
but it never made it anywhere except within a few private collectors homes.
Oh yah, and DVD did NOT have competition.
that is why i have absolutly no faith in either Blue-ray or HD DVD. Especially cause of the competition. Does anybody here really think that both can co-exist? Yeah, i'd love to see Blockbuster increase thier inventory 3-fold so they can have DVD (aint going nowhere) AND Blue-Ray, AND HD-DVD....
If one of them just disappeared, then yeah, i see a potential, but i still woudlnt get my hopes up. This is gonna be a novelty, a niche market that never pans out......
Sorry, but that system wont cut it. In fact, audio wise it wont even produce what DVD is capable of. I like polk, i like HK, but the sound alone will not have the soundstage, imaging, or power to do it as well as it could be done. As far as the HDTV, i seriously have doubts to the quality of reproduction of the no-name brands. Im sure it looks great, but it aint gonna show the full potential of the HD formats by a long shot.
In fact, i would venture to say 95% of consumers dont even have a system that will BEGIN to show the full potential of a simple DVD.
The ONLY Benefit of Blue ray and HD DVD is the 1080I and 1080P resolution.
not enough people care enough about the format to go out and spend 600 bucks on a blue ray player and upgrade the TV they already own to do a high res movie.
As i daid, the ONLY reason DVD really took off is because it was far more conenient than VHS.
Laserdisc has been around for freakuin eons. Ever notice that nobody thought it was worth the bother? sure you could skip tracks . but you also had to flip the movie and the players were pricey.
However, laser disc DID do full 5.1 dolby digital surround sound years before DVD even came out. Back when it was known as AC-3 surround. Lazerdisc also had far far better resolution than VHS.
but it never made it anywhere except within a few private collectors homes.
Oh yah, and DVD did NOT have competition.
that is why i have absolutly no faith in either Blue-ray or HD DVD. Especially cause of the competition. Does anybody here really think that both can co-exist? Yeah, i'd love to see Blockbuster increase thier inventory 3-fold so they can have DVD (aint going nowhere) AND Blue-Ray, AND HD-DVD....
If one of them just disappeared, then yeah, i see a potential, but i still woudlnt get my hopes up. This is gonna be a novelty, a niche market that never pans out......
wtf did you just say?
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#44
12-11-2006, 06:08 AM
the system you listed above will not nearly get you the calibur of what Blue Ray or HD DVD will produce.
Sorry, but that system wont cut it. In fact, audio wise it wont even produce what DVD is capable of. I like polk, i like HK, but the sound alone will not have the soundstage, imaging, or power to do it as well as it could be done. As far as the HDTV, i seriously have doubts to the quality of reproduction of the no-name brands. Im sure it looks great, but it aint gonna show the full potential of the HD formats by a long shot.
In fact, i would venture to say 95% of consumers dont even have a system that will BEGIN to show the full potential of a simple DVD.
The ONLY Benefit of Blue ray and HD DVD is the 1080I and 1080P resolution.
not enough people care enough about the format to go out and spend 600 bucks on a blue ray player and upgrade the TV they already own to do a high res movie.
As i daid, the ONLY reason DVD really took off is because it was far more conenient than VHS.
Laserdisc has been around for freakuin eons. Ever notice that nobody thought it was worth the bother? sure you could skip tracks . but you also had to flip the movie and the players were pricey.
However, laser disc DID do full 5.1 dolby digital surround sound years before DVD even came out. Back when it was known as AC-3 surround. Lazerdisc also had far far better resolution than VHS.
but it never made it anywhere except within a few private collectors homes.
Oh yah, and DVD did NOT have competition.
that is why i have absolutly no faith in either Blue-ray or HD DVD. Especially cause of the competition. Does anybody here really think that both can co-exist? Yeah, i'd love to see Blockbuster increase thier inventory 3-fold so they can have DVD (aint going nowhere) AND Blue-Ray, AND HD-DVD....
If one of them just disappeared, then yeah, i see a potential, but i still woudlnt get my hopes up. This is gonna be a novelty, a niche market that never pans out......
EDIT: Lets say this. Blue Ray and HD DVD are really designed for a HOME THEATER where the full potential can be unleashed. As are DVD's. A "Surround sound setup" is far from a HOME THEATER........
For the incremental improvement, the cost does not justify it, especially since one of both of the formats will be dead in a few years. Early adopters get burned when you have format wars. Why spend 600 on a blue ray or HD DVD player when there is a 50 50 chance it will be obsolete in a couple years and you will have to buy the other format?
Sorry, but that system wont cut it. In fact, audio wise it wont even produce what DVD is capable of. I like polk, i like HK, but the sound alone will not have the soundstage, imaging, or power to do it as well as it could be done. As far as the HDTV, i seriously have doubts to the quality of reproduction of the no-name brands. Im sure it looks great, but it aint gonna show the full potential of the HD formats by a long shot.
In fact, i would venture to say 95% of consumers dont even have a system that will BEGIN to show the full potential of a simple DVD.
The ONLY Benefit of Blue ray and HD DVD is the 1080I and 1080P resolution.
not enough people care enough about the format to go out and spend 600 bucks on a blue ray player and upgrade the TV they already own to do a high res movie.
As i daid, the ONLY reason DVD really took off is because it was far more conenient than VHS.
Laserdisc has been around for freakuin eons. Ever notice that nobody thought it was worth the bother? sure you could skip tracks . but you also had to flip the movie and the players were pricey.
However, laser disc DID do full 5.1 dolby digital surround sound years before DVD even came out. Back when it was known as AC-3 surround. Lazerdisc also had far far better resolution than VHS.
but it never made it anywhere except within a few private collectors homes.
Oh yah, and DVD did NOT have competition.
that is why i have absolutly no faith in either Blue-ray or HD DVD. Especially cause of the competition. Does anybody here really think that both can co-exist? Yeah, i'd love to see Blockbuster increase thier inventory 3-fold so they can have DVD (aint going nowhere) AND Blue-Ray, AND HD-DVD....
If one of them just disappeared, then yeah, i see a potential, but i still woudlnt get my hopes up. This is gonna be a novelty, a niche market that never pans out......
EDIT: Lets say this. Blue Ray and HD DVD are really designed for a HOME THEATER where the full potential can be unleashed. As are DVD's. A "Surround sound setup" is far from a HOME THEATER........
For the incremental improvement, the cost does not justify it, especially since one of both of the formats will be dead in a few years. Early adopters get burned when you have format wars. Why spend 600 on a blue ray or HD DVD player when there is a 50 50 chance it will be obsolete in a couple years and you will have to buy the other format?
But YES there is a major difference between a normal DVD and an HD-DVD. Even on an Olevia TV. I have done comparisons with King Kong that came with the HD-DVD player and I already had it on DVD.
But anyone that has any HDTV has exceeded the capability of a traditional DVD. A DVD puts out what 480 resolution? Even at 1080i that my Olevia supports there is a MAJOR difference. Its obvious you are the man when it comes to all that is audio but I would trust my eyes rather than what you say.
But unlike buying a Blue Ray player if HD-DVD goes away I am out only $200 for the HD drive on the 360. I would not have bought either one for $500 or 1000 respecively until one went away, but I figured $200 is a minimal additional investment.
Also more people are buying HD TVs and home theater setups because not only HD movies but HDTV and going forward more and more TV shows and channels will be broadcast in HD. So people dont have to drop alot of coin just to watch movies but also to take advantage of the Cable/Satellite they will be paying for.
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