View Poll Results: What are your 5.4L swap plans?
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I figured I would get a response about the B's. Yes I know they suck for n/a but on a budget they are by far the cheapest head to go with and the cheapest to get an intake made for one. It has been proven that a 4.6 B'headed car can get over 370rwhp w/ h/c/i. Adding 50ci should get it close to 390 but with a much better curve.
At the same time Al made his first 5.4 there was a guy that did it with a B's. Made 380/356 without a shortrunner intake and stock compression. With a shortrunner I'm sure it would have made close to 400. Then once the supercharger goes on my peak power should continue to rise all the way to 7k. I see it as a win win.
I think I can get the motor built for under 3k.
At the same time Al made his first 5.4 there was a guy that did it with a B's. Made 380/356 without a shortrunner intake and stock compression. With a shortrunner I'm sure it would have made close to 400. Then once the supercharger goes on my peak power should continue to rise all the way to 7k. I see it as a win win.
I think I can get the motor built for under 3k.
also for under 3k try again! unless you find some people getting rid of used parts not goin to happen.
IMO just hold out. if your going to spend the time and money just do it right, look around and talk to people! get all the info you can.
if you hold out and spend a bit more time you can find a set of 99/01 or 03/04 cobra heads for cheap just keep looking. heck even a set of navi heads would be better!
also for under 3k try again! unless you find some people getting rid of used parts not goin to happen.
IMO just hold out. if your going to spend the time and money just do it right, look around and talk to people! get all the info you can.
also for under 3k try again! unless you find some people getting rid of used parts not goin to happen.
IMO just hold out. if your going to spend the time and money just do it right, look around and talk to people! get all the info you can.
I will be looking for used parts so I think 3k is attainable. I was searching for parts in various classified sections on many mustang sites and found the average price for the following...
Timing cover ~125
Timing chains ~100
FMS shorties ~225
Crank ~ 275
Cams ~750
Then new stuff I have to buy:
Gasket set ~250
Rods/Pistons/Rings- 1000...MMR has a special right now
arp mains studs- ~120
Machine work for block ~500
So thats a total of 3345. If I sell my teksid block and crank I'd say I can get 450ish for it, I'd be around 2895. Then I can sell my current LT/s and or H I'd probably close to 2700. Am I missing anything?
Yes the 99+ heads are better. But then I'd have to spend a ton of money on an intake. Remember a blower will eventually be going on so boost could care less what 4v head its pushing air through.
I will be looking for used parts so I think 3k is attainable. I was searching for parts in various classified sections on many mustang sites and found the average price for the following...
Timing cover ~125
Timing chains ~100
FMS shorties ~225
Crank ~ 275
Cams ~750
Then new stuff I have to buy:
Gasket set ~250
Rods/Pistons/Rings- 1000...MMR has a special right now
arp mains studs- ~120
Machine work for block ~500
So thats a total of 3345. If I sell my teksid block and crank I'd say I can get 450ish for it, I'd be around 2895. Then I can sell my current LT/s and or H I'd probably close to 2700. Am I missing anything?
I will be looking for used parts so I think 3k is attainable. I was searching for parts in various classified sections on many mustang sites and found the average price for the following...
Timing cover ~125
Timing chains ~100
FMS shorties ~225
Crank ~ 275
Cams ~750
Then new stuff I have to buy:
Gasket set ~250
Rods/Pistons/Rings- 1000...MMR has a special right now
arp mains studs- ~120
Machine work for block ~500
So thats a total of 3345. If I sell my teksid block and crank I'd say I can get 450ish for it, I'd be around 2895. Then I can sell my current LT/s and or H I'd probably close to 2700. Am I missing anything?
i dont see it happening but proving me wrong will be AWESOME! Good luck with the build!
So if it doesn't stay under 3g's I'm not gonna stress over it. But I think it will be around there give or take a couple bills.
Now my next obsticle is to try and find where I'm gonna remove 100lbs off the nose to make up for the added weight of the block. lol.
I'd reuse my current clutch/FW. MMR says 175$ for balancing. Ohhh that reminds me I can sell my intake cams for $100 or so. Totally forgot about that.
So if it doesn't stay under 3g's I'm not gonna stress over it. But I think it will be around there give or take a couple bills.
Now my next obsticle is to try and find where I'm gonna remove 100lbs off the nose to make up for the added weight of the block. lol.
So if it doesn't stay under 3g's I'm not gonna stress over it. But I think it will be around there give or take a couple bills.
Now my next obsticle is to try and find where I'm gonna remove 100lbs off the nose to make up for the added weight of the block. lol.
First, what are you doing for an intake?
B heads are almost as old as pushrod technology,
and no intake is going to make any power on a B headed 5.4.
Ever priced a custom intake?
Why would anyone want swirl port heads?
And using MMR for anything is never a good idea.
If you cannot afford to do it correctly, you cannot afford to do it at all.
Every time you think you are smart and saving a nickle,
it will in reality cost you 10 bucks MORE.
I know you didn't cheap out and cut corners,
instead you shopped wisely.
Thats how I roll! LOL!
On another note i get the plenum, valve covers and cop covers back tomorrow from powder coating! there will be pics!
Navi Heads vs Cobra R Intake
Thought I would share some pics of a Navigator Gasket on a 00 Cobra R intake manifold. Since the bolt holes line up close enough, i'd have bolted it up to try out if i had an upper!
http://s68.photobucket.com/albums/i3...s%20Cobra%20R/
http://s68.photobucket.com/albums/i3...s%20Cobra%20R/
Thought I would share some pics of a Navigator Gasket on a 00 Cobra R intake manifold. Since the bolt holes line up close enough, i'd have bolted it up to try out if i had an upper!
http://s68.photobucket.com/albums/i3...s%20Cobra%20R/
http://s68.photobucket.com/albums/i3...s%20Cobra%20R/
Yeah, the gasket cuts into the Cobra R intake port just a little on the corners... Not that i intend to do it, but how much do you think that would hinder performance? I mean, wouldnt you like to know what it would do if you just put it on as is? For sure everyone else is curious too?
let me add to it for all the newcomers:
lesson #1
use correct parts
lesson #2
if you plan and changing the build, stop.
lesson #3
reread lesson #1
lesson #1
use correct parts
lesson #2
if you plan and changing the build, stop.
lesson #3
reread lesson #1
I changed my build a couple times, it's all in order now. I'm just ready to be finished.
Anyone know anything about the frpp hi volume oil pump? I'm finally getting around to collecting the parts to assemble my block and wondering about these things. They're pretty inexpensive but if it's a good pump I wouldn't mind using it.
Hey all. Its been awhile since I've been on. Looks like everyones doin great. Mines doin good still. Gettin ready to swap to auto with 4.10's and a 150 shot for this upcoming season.
Cobra54-I did the exact thing your gonna do and am happy with it. N/a the c heads win but the b heads love boost. What blower are you wantin to go with? I've always wondered if it was possible to put a kenne bell for our cobras on bc they bolt the the stock lower I imagine an adapter could be made for the blower to sit on the widened intake.
Cobra54-I did the exact thing your gonna do and am happy with it. N/a the c heads win but the b heads love boost. What blower are you wantin to go with? I've always wondered if it was possible to put a kenne bell for our cobras on bc they bolt the the stock lower I imagine an adapter could be made for the blower to sit on the widened intake.
Hey all. Its been awhile since I've been on. Looks like everyones doin great. Mines doin good still. Gettin ready to swap to auto with 4.10's and a 150 shot for this upcoming season.
Cobra54-I did the exact thing your gonna do and am happy with it. N/a the c heads win but the b heads love boost. What blower are you wantin to go with? I've always wondered if it was possible to put a kenne bell for our cobras on bc they bolt the the stock lower I imagine an adapter could be made for the blower to sit on the widened intake.
Cobra54-I did the exact thing your gonna do and am happy with it. N/a the c heads win but the b heads love boost. What blower are you wantin to go with? I've always wondered if it was possible to put a kenne bell for our cobras on bc they bolt the the stock lower I imagine an adapter could be made for the blower to sit on the widened intake.