View Poll Results: What are your 5.4L swap plans?
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#9931
Griggs. Lemme get a pic... I'm not sure but it may have a < .010 groove in it.
Pump, Never run... it has a cracked clippy dealie so my mechanic never installed it. A Dab of adhesive fixes the clip but I was in a rush to get my car back at the time.
Ortiz: zip code? Figure probably about 210-280 shipped.
Pump, Never run... it has a cracked clippy dealie so my mechanic never installed it. A Dab of adhesive fixes the clip but I was in a rush to get my car back at the time.
Ortiz: zip code? Figure probably about 210-280 shipped.
#9934
OOOOPS ... LOL ... My apologies My mistake. I never heard of Griggs. If it's an FRPP and in good shape I want dibs for sure.
#9935
Griggs is up there with Maximum Motorsports. They're a race oriented shop. You really have to need to know about them to have used their stuff. I'm a fan. They usually just re-brand a FRPP unit but at points they had their own made locally (there was a time when they were hard to get from ford)
#9936
Griggs is up there with Maximum Motorsports. They're a race oriented shop. You really have to need to know about them to have used their stuff. I'm a fan. They usually just re-brand a FRPP unit but at points they had their own made locally (there was a time when they were hard to get from ford)
#9937
Griggs. Lemme get a pic... I'm not sure but it may have a < .010 groove in it.
Pump, Never run... it has a cracked clippy dealie so my mechanic never installed it. A Dab of adhesive fixes the clip but I was in a rush to get my car back at the time.
Ortiz: zip code? Figure probably about 210-280 shipped.
Pump, Never run... it has a cracked clippy dealie so my mechanic never installed it. A Dab of adhesive fixes the clip but I was in a rush to get my car back at the time.
Ortiz: zip code? Figure probably about 210-280 shipped.
Sorry about that r3dn3ck, i thought they were the ones that could fold up and down .
#9938
I'm waiting on a bunch of powdercoated stuff and a couple other little things, then all that's left is to pick an alternator relocation kit, get a 03 cobra oil cooler, oil pump, oil pan, and my head work/cams. Getting ever so close at this point.
#9940
You don't need a diff oil cooler if you keep stock alternator location. You need coolant crossover, fuel rails, COPs, lots of little things that add up. It's really not that bad, no different than on a 4.6. Just remember that in the heads, you have to spend twice as much on everything.
#9941
Thinking out loud: solder, shrink tube and a spool of 12awg wire. You need a fuel pump upgrade if you haven't yet. You need 30lbs injectors and cobra fuel rails, you need a 90mm MAF (yours won't peg without hot cams but it'll be at the upper end of its range), coolant crossover tube, pullies, 4v exhaust manifolds. You might need a cobra throttle cable but I don't think that's really much different than a GT cable... FYI just in case.
I would also call up Maximum Motorsports and get a set of the 1/2" K-member spacers. It'll just make life a little easier and they're cheap and have the proper bolts.
You might think about a little tiny bit stiffer front spring and sway bar setup if you carve corners and cobra brakes or really nice pads.
I would also call up Maximum Motorsports and get a set of the 1/2" K-member spacers. It'll just make life a little easier and they're cheap and have the proper bolts.
You might think about a little tiny bit stiffer front spring and sway bar setup if you carve corners and cobra brakes or really nice pads.
#9942
questions
Do the FTP longtubes fot a stock K-member with 1/2" spacers?? Also red, what is a good set of cams for my combo. 12#'s, Eaton (gonna have it ported) Partiot stage II's. I want to be able to drive it anywhere. Oh, and it's an auto with 3.90 gears and a heavy convertible.
#9943
I have 200lb coil over springs up front now so maybe a 250 300?
Sounds like a easy list, im going to sell the complete 5.4 with adapter plates, PI intake, and exhaust manifolds, within the next month.
Im going to start piecing those parts together.
I wont get going anywhere near 7000 rpm so i will be safe on the heads obviously twice as many cams and springs but thats all ill be doing. Big shot of nitrous or forge it and supercharge it eventually.
Sounds like a easy list, im going to sell the complete 5.4 with adapter plates, PI intake, and exhaust manifolds, within the next month.
Im going to start piecing those parts together.
I wont get going anywhere near 7000 rpm so i will be safe on the heads obviously twice as many cams and springs but thats all ill be doing. Big shot of nitrous or forge it and supercharge it eventually.
#9944
Thinking out loud: solder, shrink tube and a spool of 12awg wire. You need a fuel pump upgrade if you haven't yet. You need 30lbs injectors and cobra fuel rails, you need a 90mm MAF (yours won't peg without hot cams but it'll be at the upper end of its range), coolant crossover tube, pullies, 4v exhaust manifolds. You might need a cobra throttle cable but I don't think that's really much different than a GT cable... FYI just in case.
I would also call up Maximum Motorsports and get a set of the 1/2" K-member spacers. It'll just make life a little easier and they're cheap and have the proper bolts.
You might think about a little tiny bit stiffer front spring and sway bar setup if you carve corners and cobra brakes or really nice pads.
I would also call up Maximum Motorsports and get a set of the 1/2" K-member spacers. It'll just make life a little easier and they're cheap and have the proper bolts.
You might think about a little tiny bit stiffer front spring and sway bar setup if you carve corners and cobra brakes or really nice pads.
Other than that, I've got everything in your list except for exhaust manifolds which are being custom made locally.
Spacers are nice, they go in super easy.
I thought about going with cobra brakes but I think if I upgrade, I'll get the strange brakes, they're a lot lighter and they look nice behind skinnies.
#9945
I have 200lb coil over springs up front now so maybe a 250 300?
Sounds like a easy list, im going to sell the complete 5.4 with adapter plates, PI intake, and exhaust manifolds, within the next month.
Im going to start piecing those parts together.
I wont get going anywhere near 7000 rpm so i will be safe on the heads obviously twice as many cams and springs but thats all ill be doing. Big shot of nitrous or forge it and supercharge it eventually.
Sounds like a easy list, im going to sell the complete 5.4 with adapter plates, PI intake, and exhaust manifolds, within the next month.
Im going to start piecing those parts together.
I wont get going anywhere near 7000 rpm so i will be safe on the heads obviously twice as many cams and springs but thats all ill be doing. Big shot of nitrous or forge it and supercharge it eventually.
Skip all that soldering lol I just bought a brand new 01 cobra wiring harness for about $100. I do need to find my iron though, I broke the wire off where it connects to my fuel level sensor and it's a tight spot that I can't fix very easily.
Other than that, I've got everything in your list except for exhaust manifolds which are being custom made locally.
Spacers are nice, they go in super easy.
I thought about going with cobra brakes but I think if I upgrade, I'll get the strange brakes, they're a lot lighter and they look nice behind skinnies.
Other than that, I've got everything in your list except for exhaust manifolds which are being custom made locally.
Spacers are nice, they go in super easy.
I thought about going with cobra brakes but I think if I upgrade, I'll get the strange brakes, they're a lot lighter and they look nice behind skinnies.
#9947
man sometimes i feel worse than a woman cant ever make my mind up! that navi motor looks so good!!already have everything to build my shortblock,really thinking about selling my top end, porting the navi heads and running a sullivan intake with tt setup.its really what i want a tt dohc 5.4.i already have the ford gt blue vaove covers and 04 cobra oil cooler,and cross over tube and navi motor.im really having a hard time decidwhy i shouldnt.i have almost everything
Last edited by the12fast4u; 11-04-2010 at 02:06 PM.
#9949
500's in the rear. Up front: 350's for moderate-hot street, 375's for hot-street/track, 400's for hot track. In back 500, 550, 600 respectively.
#9950
I'm guessing I'll go with a 375 up front, does it matter the length? I'm seeing 10 and 12" lengths available for what I'm looking at. I gotta get struts and a-arms before it matters. I also need to roll my fenders.
Last edited by 330ciJarryd; 11-04-2010 at 08:48 PM.
#9951
I have eibach drag springs in the rear... so 350 coil over springs in the front instead of my 200lb springs?
The 2v 5.4 is fun but it kills me everyday knowing its not the best of the best thats pratical. And sure cams and hps intake will make 330 350 but compared to whats out on the street now thats bolt on mach 1 territory. I will be happy with a 350-450 hp Daily driver that can hang with
11 GT's even though they are heavier
SRT8 anythings even though they are heavier
New Camaro SS's
m3's
whatever you get the point all the newer 400 hp cars
I have won my fair share of races and lost the same amount im just looking for a faster street car with the best platform under the hood. And ive gone with the complete mach theme on the car chin spoiler mach hood shaker and all that so i will need the dohc 5.4.
Cams
Intake
150 Shot
That should make for 4xx horse power and 55x+ torque on the juice.
350 400 with the cams
stock bottom end
The 2v 5.4 is fun but it kills me everyday knowing its not the best of the best thats pratical. And sure cams and hps intake will make 330 350 but compared to whats out on the street now thats bolt on mach 1 territory. I will be happy with a 350-450 hp Daily driver that can hang with
11 GT's even though they are heavier
SRT8 anythings even though they are heavier
New Camaro SS's
m3's
whatever you get the point all the newer 400 hp cars
I have won my fair share of races and lost the same amount im just looking for a faster street car with the best platform under the hood. And ive gone with the complete mach theme on the car chin spoiler mach hood shaker and all that so i will need the dohc 5.4.
Cams
Intake
150 Shot
That should make for 4xx horse power and 55x+ torque on the juice.
350 400 with the cams
stock bottom end
#9953
I have eibach drag springs in the rear... so 350 coil over springs in the front instead of my 200lb springs?
The 2v 5.4 is fun but it kills me everyday knowing its not the best of the best thats pratical. And sure cams and hps intake will make 330 350 but compared to whats out on the street now thats bolt on mach 1 territory. I will be happy with a 350-450 hp Daily driver that can hang with
11 GT's even though they are heavier
SRT8 anythings even though they are heavier
New Camaro SS's
m3's
whatever you get the point all the newer 400 hp cars
I have won my fair share of races and lost the same amount im just looking for a faster street car with the best platform under the hood. And ive gone with the complete mach theme on the car chin spoiler mach hood shaker and all that so i will need the dohc 5.4.
Cams
Intake
150 Shot
That should make for 4xx horse power and 55x+ torque on the juice.
350 400 with the cams
stock bottom end
The 2v 5.4 is fun but it kills me everyday knowing its not the best of the best thats pratical. And sure cams and hps intake will make 330 350 but compared to whats out on the street now thats bolt on mach 1 territory. I will be happy with a 350-450 hp Daily driver that can hang with
11 GT's even though they are heavier
SRT8 anythings even though they are heavier
New Camaro SS's
m3's
whatever you get the point all the newer 400 hp cars
I have won my fair share of races and lost the same amount im just looking for a faster street car with the best platform under the hood. And ive gone with the complete mach theme on the car chin spoiler mach hood shaker and all that so i will need the dohc 5.4.
Cams
Intake
150 Shot
That should make for 4xx horse power and 55x+ torque on the juice.
350 400 with the cams
stock bottom end
k
#9954
yeah... 10" are too short. I like 12" or even 14". I seem to recall mine are all 12". When they're too short you get popping and banging as they re-seat anytime you droop a wheel far enough to unseat it. 12" should be just right.
you're underestimating the 4v heads. I'd bet closer to 380NA if your cams and intake choise are up to it. A set of ported B or C heads with that and you can jump over 400NA pretty easily. You'll end up spinning it to 7000rpm or so though so ARP2000 rod bolts and forged rods and a top notch balance job.
k
you're underestimating the 4v heads. I'd bet closer to 380NA if your cams and intake choise are up to it. A set of ported B or C heads with that and you can jump over 400NA pretty easily. You'll end up spinning it to 7000rpm or so though so ARP2000 rod bolts and forged rods and a top notch balance job.
k
I'm so glad I got ARP2000 rod bolts with my rods. I still haven't sent it off for balancing, but when I do I'll have a very solid short block. I'm gonna try to wind mine out to about 7500.
#9955
I was going off the only N/A 5.4 results Ive seen online which was birdman on modular fords
11:1 compression - Al papito short block and light port on the heads
Australian boss intake
Cams
CAI
Stock headers
X pipe
Tune obviously
it made 404/387
I was thinking more of
Cams and intake on a stock bottom end
Long tubes
X pipe
11:1 compression - Al papito short block and light port on the heads
Australian boss intake
Cams
CAI
Stock headers
X pipe
Tune obviously
it made 404/387
I was thinking more of
Cams and intake on a stock bottom end
Long tubes
X pipe
#9956
I was going off the only N/A 5.4 results Ive seen online which was birdman on modular fords
11:1 compression - Al papito short block and light port on the heads
Australian boss intake
Cams
CAI
Stock headers
X pipe
Tune obviously
it made 404/387
I was thinking more of
Cams and intake on a stock bottom end
Long tubes
X pipe
11:1 compression - Al papito short block and light port on the heads
Australian boss intake
Cams
CAI
Stock headers
X pipe
Tune obviously
it made 404/387
I was thinking more of
Cams and intake on a stock bottom end
Long tubes
X pipe
#9957
the only thing is forging the bottom end is $$$$. I love my mustang and the hobby
but id like to also paint my Bronco black to match the stang
Buy a Stoker shortblock and nice cam for it
Or get a Kenne Bell Blowzilla with a blower cam
fix my boat add a nice 40 hp outboard
take a few vacations
buy a crown vic - swap in a mark viii motor stroked to 5.0 with some nice cams add some marauder exterior pieces nice wheels
So i dont want to go to hog wild on the mustang that just pushes everything else back
I have plenty of plans for fun and plenty of spare time porting the heads and forging the bottom end the $$$ wont = the gains for me right now
Stock 5.4 4v
Cams
Intake
LTs
and ill be gravy
but id like to also paint my Bronco black to match the stang
Buy a Stoker shortblock and nice cam for it
Or get a Kenne Bell Blowzilla with a blower cam
fix my boat add a nice 40 hp outboard
take a few vacations
buy a crown vic - swap in a mark viii motor stroked to 5.0 with some nice cams add some marauder exterior pieces nice wheels
So i dont want to go to hog wild on the mustang that just pushes everything else back
I have plenty of plans for fun and plenty of spare time porting the heads and forging the bottom end the $$$ wont = the gains for me right now
Stock 5.4 4v
Cams
Intake
LTs
and ill be gravy
#9958
Have fun with it man, I'm in no hurry and this is my only project so I'll get mine done when I can. I've still got a ways to go before it's done but I'll be pretty happy when it is.
I do know that if I happen to stumble across a set of ported c-heads, I'll probably buy those and sell the navi heads, I don't really have to run these and I see c-heads selling a lot cheaper than what it's going to cost me to get these done.
I do know that if I happen to stumble across a set of ported c-heads, I'll probably buy those and sell the navi heads, I don't really have to run these and I see c-heads selling a lot cheaper than what it's going to cost me to get these done.
#9959
Have fun with it man, I'm in no hurry and this is my only project so I'll get mine done when I can. I've still got a ways to go before it's done but I'll be pretty happy when it is.
I do know that if I happen to stumble across a set of ported c-heads, I'll probably buy those and sell the navi heads, I don't really have to run these and I see c-heads selling a lot cheaper than what it's going to cost me to get these done.
I do know that if I happen to stumble across a set of ported c-heads, I'll probably buy those and sell the navi heads, I don't really have to run these and I see c-heads selling a lot cheaper than what it's going to cost me to get these done.