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Old Mar 5, 2009 | 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by 96blackgt54
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Parts...1%7C240%3A1318

Not sure if this has been posted before, it is a 2 valve 5.4l part. Thought you guys would like to see!
Those are pretty sweet
 
Old Mar 5, 2009 | 11:47 AM
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anyone know where to get the flanges at the head? looks like hunter and myself will have some headers fabbed up here in the ham......
 
Old Mar 5, 2009 | 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by JScottGT
I'd be willing to bet money that is all in the tune. Once you get it all tuned up, the idle will be rock-solid and there will not be any rise in RPMs between shifts. Because, remember, your ECU calculates load based on engine displacement. Now that you have 49 additional cubes, it will throw off those calculations.

That's what I'm hoping it as, also with the rise in rpms its mainly only when im driving. Not sure if maybe the CAI is kinda ramming air into the engine (since I don't have the hood on) and that would cause it.
 
Old Mar 5, 2009 | 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by myillwillinc
anyone know where to get the flanges at the head? looks like hunter and myself will have some headers fabbed up here in the ham......
Send me a PM for more info.
 

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Old Mar 5, 2009 | 09:40 PM
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Old Mar 6, 2009 | 05:35 AM
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http://detroit.craigslist.org/pts/1060820849.html

For anyone in the Detroit area, here is a great deal on a 5.4 long block. It sounds like it will need head gaskets though. But you cant beat it for $150
 
Old Mar 6, 2009 | 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by myillwillinc
anyone know where to get the flanges at the head? looks like hunter and myself will have some headers fabbed up here in the ham......
Originally Posted by JScottGT
I have CAD data of the header flanges if anyone needs. You can take it to any shop with a waterjet or laser cutting capability. PM me with your email address and I can send you the file.
Hey JScottGT! Send me the CAD files! I've been thinking about making them and selling on the net!

Item I have on ebay! Just don't want to do it any more Besides, the engine was not built for it.

type in "5.4l Holley Supercharger" that should pull it up
 

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Old Mar 6, 2009 | 09:12 AM
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dam, i would have loved to have seen dyno/track numbers for that...
 
Old Mar 6, 2009 | 09:35 AM
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Yup
 

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Old Mar 6, 2009 | 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by JScottGT
I have CAD data of the header flanges if anyone needs. You can take it to any shop with a waterjet or laser cutting capability. PM me with your email address and I can send you the file.
Why would you post something like this?
That shop could capitalize on your hard work!
 

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Old Mar 6, 2009 | 10:56 AM
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My intention was to provide you the CAD data so you can have flanges made up for yourself
 

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Old Mar 6, 2009 | 11:09 AM
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That's exactly why you keep your hard work and $$$$ spent to yourself. It's not if but when you are going to get taken advantage of. I know you were just trying to help people out, but,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
 
Old Mar 6, 2009 | 12:04 PM
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Anyway, moving on here... I just finished up my design on the driver's side header. Using the pictures that r3d took along the way, I was able to pretty accurately replicate the routing for the primaries. This is by no means a direct make & bolt-in, but moves me in the right direction to know what cuts need to be made and at what angles. I will still have to design and build a jig for cutting the J-bends of tubing accurately for my desired angle. Here is what I wound up with...
 

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Old Mar 6, 2009 | 12:32 PM
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Wow! That looks awesome!! Will these fit an auto trans??
 
Old Mar 6, 2009 | 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by horspla2000
Wow! That looks awesome!! Will these fit an auto trans??
From the looks of things, yes it will. I fit it with the TR3650 trans because it is bigger than the T45.
 
Old Mar 6, 2009 | 05:04 PM
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Hey guys, guess I've been standing by watching this forum long enough since about sept 08. I've got an 03 gt that's totally stock. My project is finally running at a decent speed. MMR has my block which is out of a 2001 f250 having it bored over 20 built to an mmr900. Currently on the list I belive for a first shipment of trickflow blower heads. Had it built with 8.5 CR and doing a tork tech blower. And I'm based in the Nashville, tn area
 
Old Mar 6, 2009 | 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by JScottGT
Anyway, moving on here... I just finished up my design on the driver's side header. Using the pictures that r3d took along the way, along with the surrounding area in CAD, I was able to pretty accurately replicate the routing for the primaries. This is by no means a direct make & bolt-in, but moves me in the right direction to know what cuts need to be made and at what angles. I will still have to design and build a jig for cutting the J-bends of tubing accurately for my desired angle. Here is what I wound up with...




Very nice . Did you copy the engine and trans from r3ds pics, or did you input them from a different source?
 
Old Mar 7, 2009 | 05:45 AM
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Different source
 

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Old Mar 7, 2009 | 11:15 AM
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LOL
 
Old Mar 7, 2009 | 12:45 PM
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Well guys I have been trying and trying and I can not get her to run right. Constant missfires. Getting codes for "missfire under 1000 rpms" , "number 3 cylinder missfire" , number 5 cylinder missfire"

I have checked and rechecked and replaced parts, etc. JUst keeps happening, and runs like ***!

Timing maybe?
 
Old Mar 7, 2009 | 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by srwhouston
Well guys I have been trying and trying and I can not get her to run right. Constant missfires. Getting codes for "missfire under 1000 rpms" , "number 3 cylinder missfire" , number 5 cylinder missfire"

I have checked and rechecked and replaced parts, etc. JUst keeps happening, and runs like ***!

Timing maybe?
Try swapping the coils on 3 and 5 to opposite banks and see if the error codes shift location..
 
Old Mar 9, 2009 | 10:20 AM
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Any of you guys get your intake yet? It's going on a month since I ordered one, but I got them to do alittle extra to it.
 
Old Mar 9, 2009 | 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by TurboX2
Try swapping the coils on 3 and 5 to opposite banks and see if the error codes shift location..

lol Oh I have done that. Switched them all out, plugs, injectors, etc.
 
Old Mar 9, 2009 | 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by srwhouston
lol Oh I have done that. Switched them all out, plugs, injectors, etc.
Still using the stock tune?
 
Old Mar 9, 2009 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Morgan The Black
Any of you guys get your intake yet? It's going on a month since I ordered one, but I got them to do alittle extra to it.
I placed my order back on 2/13 and I recieved my intake on 3/6... so it was a full 3 weeks. I didnt have them add any additional machining like the coolant x/over. I am drilling & tapping that portion myself.

One thing I did notice when I did a test-fit of the intake was that the bottom of the plenum plate made contact with a stiffening rib on the block in the valley. I had to give it a little touch (the block) with a grinder to allow it to fit correctly.
 
Old Mar 9, 2009 | 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by srwhouston
Well guys I have been trying and trying and I can not get her to run right. Constant missfires. Getting codes for "missfire under 1000 rpms" , "number 3 cylinder missfire" , number 5 cylinder missfire"

I have checked and rechecked and replaced parts, etc. JUst keeps happening, and runs like ***!

Timing maybe?
It sounds like you have an air leak between the intake and cylinder head. A few of us have had those same issues and had to re-seal the intake better. Are you using adapter plates?
 
Old Mar 9, 2009 | 09:28 PM
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if i could tig, i would make myself a set this weekend. but after attempting to just add and cut alittle from exsisting headers i'll pay someone else to do it next time....
 
Old Mar 10, 2009 | 06:31 AM
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Originally Posted by JScottGT
It sounds like you have an air leak between the intake and cylinder head. A few of us have had those same issues and had to re-seal the intake better. Are you using adapter plates?

still using stock tune yes, but I can tell even with a tune this will not run. I was thinking that it felt like it does when there is an intake leak. I have sealed and resealed this thing a dozen times.

Would an intake leak be giving all those missfire codes?
 
Old Mar 10, 2009 | 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by srwhouston
still using stock tune yes, but I can tell even with a tune this will not run. I was thinking that it felt like it does when there is an intake leak. I have sealed and resealed this thing a dozen times.

Would an intake leak be giving all those missfire codes?
An intake leak or vacuum leak will give those misfire codes. Easiest way to check for leaks is with carb cleaner. Spray some near the intake interface while the car is idling. If you get a change in RPMs, there is a leak there.
 

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Old Mar 10, 2009 | 07:16 AM
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Cyls 3 and 5 are on opposite banks. It would be a great help if you knew somebody at a dealer or somebody with a decent scan tool. You could look at the fuel trims and see what they look like etc. Also, if you knew some shop with a smoke machine that is used on evap. system leaks, you could smoke test the intake to verify if and where leaks were. It sounds to me like those adapter plates are nothing but a pain.
 



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