My Neighbors are Drug Dealers, I Think.
#31
04-21-2010, 04:45 PM
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What Chris said, is pretty much exactly how I feel.
This isn't realy a weed is good or bad debate, or if it should even be legal or illegal. This is a matter of shady people, who have no business being so close to where I live. If the best way to make it stop is to get the police involved, then that is what I'd do. It may not be the nicest way, but it's one avenue that I'm going to pursue. I'm not going to go down there and ask the guy to stop selling weed out of his apartament, becuase I don't know where that could lead. It mean, it's not like this guy doesn't know where I live, when I am and am not home, and a lot of things about me.
When I was a toddler, my parents were robbed of everything they had becuase a friend of my Dad's brought some guy over to our house, that my Dad didn't know, nor did his friend know that well. Doesn't invlove weed, but rather the nature of people, which is what I'm worried about. I might be paranoid of people coming around, but it's my business to keep myself and my girlfriend safe.
This isn't realy a weed is good or bad debate, or if it should even be legal or illegal. This is a matter of shady people, who have no business being so close to where I live. If the best way to make it stop is to get the police involved, then that is what I'd do. It may not be the nicest way, but it's one avenue that I'm going to pursue. I'm not going to go down there and ask the guy to stop selling weed out of his apartament, becuase I don't know where that could lead. It mean, it's not like this guy doesn't know where I live, when I am and am not home, and a lot of things about me.
When I was a toddler, my parents were robbed of everything they had becuase a friend of my Dad's brought some guy over to our house, that my Dad didn't know, nor did his friend know that well. Doesn't invlove weed, but rather the nature of people, which is what I'm worried about. I might be paranoid of people coming around, but it's my business to keep myself and my girlfriend safe.
#32
04-21-2010, 05:29 PM
What Chris said, is pretty much exactly how I feel.
This isn't realy a weed is good or bad debate, or if it should even be legal or illegal. This is a matter of shady people, who have no business being so close to where I live. If the best way to make it stop is to get the police involved, then that is what I'd do. It may not be the nicest way, but it's one avenue that I'm going to pursue. I'm not going to go down there and ask the guy to stop selling weed out of his apartament, becuase I don't know where that could lead. It mean, it's not like this guy doesn't know where I live, when I am and am not home, and a lot of things about me.
When I was a toddler, my parents were robbed of everything they had becuase a friend of my Dad's brought some guy over to our house, that my Dad didn't know, nor did his friend know that well. Doesn't invlove weed, but rather the nature of people, which is what I'm worried about. I might be paranoid of people coming around, but it's my business to keep myself and my girlfriend safe.
This isn't realy a weed is good or bad debate, or if it should even be legal or illegal. This is a matter of shady people, who have no business being so close to where I live. If the best way to make it stop is to get the police involved, then that is what I'd do. It may not be the nicest way, but it's one avenue that I'm going to pursue. I'm not going to go down there and ask the guy to stop selling weed out of his apartament, becuase I don't know where that could lead. It mean, it's not like this guy doesn't know where I live, when I am and am not home, and a lot of things about me.
When I was a toddler, my parents were robbed of everything they had becuase a friend of my Dad's brought some guy over to our house, that my Dad didn't know, nor did his friend know that well. Doesn't invlove weed, but rather the nature of people, which is what I'm worried about. I might be paranoid of people coming around, but it's my business to keep myself and my girlfriend safe.
Do what you need to keep you guys safe.
#33
04-23-2010, 05:34 AM
I'm betting weed has nothing to do with your dad's relationship with you and that his ability to form a relationship with you is the limiting factor there. I'm a dad, and I burn and I pay attention to my kids but, I do segregate myself away when it's time to toke up. That does lead to 30 minutes or an hour where I'm just flat unavailable but it does not hamper my relationship with them. I maintain a relationship with them that's comfortable for me, just like every parent does. Some are more comfy with ultra close family dynamics, others aren't. Blaming it on someone being stoned ... I'm not seeing that being realistic. I don't want to minimize your situation or to seem like I know you and your pop... I don't but I'll bet a crispy dollar that'll work in any machine that I'm right.
On the quality of life issue, go talk to him. Tell him you have no problem with his life but you would appreciate it if he could keep it a little further on the down low. Let him know that you don't want drama probably just as bad as him and that if you've noticed, others who aren't so understanding may have or certainly will soon and you'd like to keep the place free of unnecessary police presence. Perhaps your note that it's getting obvious will let him know that he's taking too much risk and he needs to be a little more discreet.
As far as I'm concerned he's violating an illegal law which is just like not violating anything at all. Civil disobedience leads to policy change... it's happening as people wake up to the truth. Don't feed the police state statistics that will make it take longer and hurt more innocent people trying to make a living.
On the quality of life issue, go talk to him. Tell him you have no problem with his life but you would appreciate it if he could keep it a little further on the down low. Let him know that you don't want drama probably just as bad as him and that if you've noticed, others who aren't so understanding may have or certainly will soon and you'd like to keep the place free of unnecessary police presence. Perhaps your note that it's getting obvious will let him know that he's taking too much risk and he needs to be a little more discreet.
As far as I'm concerned he's violating an illegal law which is just like not violating anything at all. Civil disobedience leads to policy change... it's happening as people wake up to the truth. Don't feed the police state statistics that will make it take longer and hurt more innocent people trying to make a living.
"Bitch I would beat your *** if I wasent so ******* high!"
#34
04-23-2010, 07:30 AM
That is 100% false and you know it. You're not a neuro surgeon or a molecular biologist or a psychiatrist so I can say factually that you're talking out your *** right there. What you've seen don't mean **** as you're not a physician or a shrink so you're totally unqualified to even speak on that point much less make a sophisticated diagnosis of the effects of a largely unstudied substance.
Weed changes your mental state during the high with respect to attitude and various sensory perceptions as all psychedelics do, however, it DOES NOT change your core personality or uninhibit you. Things you were inhibited against doing sober will not seem more attractive while you're high.
If you're going to chime in, at least don't fill the conversation with bullshit.
Weed changes your mental state during the high with respect to attitude and various sensory perceptions as all psychedelics do, however, it DOES NOT change your core personality or uninhibit you. Things you were inhibited against doing sober will not seem more attractive while you're high.
If you're going to chime in, at least don't fill the conversation with bullshit.
#35
04-23-2010, 08:09 AM
Well going by your logic then you cant say its 100% false either lol. That is unless your are a Molecular Biologist!
Personally i dont think it Changes your core. I think you act different sure. I dont really care if you smoke or not. I personally dont think its good but i have no room to judge someone that smokes weed. I wont do it because i like my current job and wont risk getting fired.
For the OP i think you need to do whats best for you and your girl. if it was me i would also move when my lease was up. I would not want to put her in Danger. So if you need to call the cops then do what you have to do. As of right now it is still illegal even though people dont think it is that bad.
#36
04-23-2010, 08:23 AM
I agree with Jack also, and to take the point a little deeper. What happens when another drug dealer comes to the hood. You guys know drug dealers have "turf wars" all the time over who has the right to sell whatever in a certain neighborhood. That could lead to all kinds of ****!
I also agree that weed is no more dangerous than alchohol or ciggs. Weed itself is not the problem. Its the people.
I also agree that weed is no more dangerous than alchohol or ciggs. Weed itself is not the problem. Its the people.
#37
04-23-2010, 08:32 AM
No... I am a former mental health professional with years of training in the matter. I'm at least qualified to speak on the subject.
You lost the context of the reply when you quoted only my response. But you're a know it all, so we'll defer to your expertise.
You lost the context of the reply when you quoted only my response. But you're a know it all, so we'll defer to your expertise.
#38
04-23-2010, 12:38 PM
I had replied before but somehow it got removed. Oh well. I was just giving my opinion and obviously only a few people are allowed to do that on this site. Yes you are qualified to speak on the subject but that does not mean everyone else isn't. My bad if i was out of line.
I think my first mistake was it looked like i was defending GDP....but i really wasnt. Dude is a tool.
I think my first mistake was it looked like i was defending GDP....but i really wasnt. Dude is a tool.
#39
04-23-2010, 01:45 PM
That is 100% false and you know it. You're not a neuro surgeon or a molecular biologist or a psychiatrist so I can say factually that you're talking out your *** right there. What you've seen don't mean **** as you're not a physician or a shrink so you're totally unqualified to even speak on that point much less make a sophisticated diagnosis of the effects of a largely unstudied substance.
Weed changes your mental state during the high with respect to attitude and various sensory perceptions as all psychedelics do, however, it DOES NOT change your core personality or uninhibit you. Things you were inhibited against doing sober will not seem more attractive while you're high.
If you're going to chime in, at least don't fill the conversation with bullshit.
Weed changes your mental state during the high with respect to attitude and various sensory perceptions as all psychedelics do, however, it DOES NOT change your core personality or uninhibit you. Things you were inhibited against doing sober will not seem more attractive while you're high.
If you're going to chime in, at least don't fill the conversation with bullshit.
I dunno, i hear smoking pot makes you overly defensive.
lol...
#40
04-23-2010, 04:01 PM
Weed changes your mental state during the high with respect to attitude and various sensory perceptions as all psychedelics do, however, it DOES NOT change your core personality or uninhibit you. Things you were inhibited against doing sober will not seem more attractive while you're high.
Most people who I know that get high....are high ALL of the time. At work, at school, at church, at the health clinic....yada yada yada.
Weeds just like drinking. Sometimes you're a smidgeon of a different person when you you're high, or drunk. Sometimes you're WAY different. My best friend smokes weed all the time. Only problem I have is that hes overly ******* analytical and philosophical when he's high. In my opinion, people who smoke weed are just BORING. I like to rage. Not relax.
#41
04-23-2010, 07:27 PM
i would assume redneck and pistonsfans don't have kido's. weed is not a hard drug and i have no problems with people who want to come home after working all day and smoke a bowl. or the guy who smokes occasionally at a party. i smoked the **** out of it in high school but freaked out when i found out my daughter had experimented with it. dealing drugs around kids(which apartments are full of) is a bad deal for everyone. whether it's weed or crack. not everyone of his buyers is 100% an occasional smoker of weed. some of them are probably into other harder ****. if you have kids 500 then it is a big deal. if you only have a few months and want to leave then keep your eyes open and watch out for the next few months. don't bother getting involved. it is kind of ignorant to say "it's just weed". we don't know who is in 500's family and haven't seen the people lurking around his apartment.
#42
04-23-2010, 11:41 PM
FR500 hit the nail on the head. This isn't an issue of which drug is being sold. Illicit drugs, controlled substances, Hell he could be selling untaxed cigs or alcohol. It will still draw the unwanted crowd too close. Pot use is seen as a mild drug use, cocaine is a little more harsh, and meth and heroin is hard ****. Does not matter, because it is illegal to sell. Period.. That brings out the criminals, no matter how you look at it.
Dealers of any kind will always have this disadvantage... They will have, Cash, stash, and cannot report if someone stole their ill gotten gain.. So in come the criminals, and out goes the safety for anyone nearby..
The drug laws in this country are so fcking hard to decipher that it's no wonder that Pot hasn't been in the same class as alcohol, and tobacco, BTW, which are illegal in other countries that don't view heroin, or other opiates to be a big deal..
Bottom line.... It's illegal. so it's gonna draw some people, ( Not all people), who don't give a **** bout you.. or your family....
Dealers of any kind will always have this disadvantage... They will have, Cash, stash, and cannot report if someone stole their ill gotten gain.. So in come the criminals, and out goes the safety for anyone nearby..
The drug laws in this country are so fcking hard to decipher that it's no wonder that Pot hasn't been in the same class as alcohol, and tobacco, BTW, which are illegal in other countries that don't view heroin, or other opiates to be a big deal..
Bottom line.... It's illegal. so it's gonna draw some people, ( Not all people), who don't give a **** bout you.. or your family....
Last edited by rebelyell; 04-23-2010 at 11:44 PM.
#43
04-24-2010, 02:39 AM
If the guy is selling small quanities (quarters, ect) I seriously doubt he'll be robbed at gun point. Its just not worth it, they arent crack heads. If you were talking pounds, then eh it could happen.
#44
04-24-2010, 09:27 PM
Okay, this is so far off topic now.
The ONLY reason people don't like marijuana is because it is illegal! People would have the exact same feeling about alcohol if it was illegal.
You CAN'T overdose on marijuana, but you can on alcohol.
Now tell me which one is worse.
Sorry OP for getting off topic.
The ONLY reason people don't like marijuana is because it is illegal! People would have the exact same feeling about alcohol if it was illegal.
You CAN'T overdose on marijuana, but you can on alcohol.
Now tell me which one is worse.
Sorry OP for getting off topic.
#45
04-24-2010, 09:51 PM
Of course people act different after they smoke...they're ******* high. lol. Just like people act differently after the drink, because they're drunk, doesn't mean they always act differently. I act differently when I'm stoned, but once that high wears off I don't stay that way lol. It's frustrating how over exaggerated weed is. Just because someone smokes all the time or even daily, it doesn't mean they are high all the time.
I do agree though, it doesn't matter what he's selling. He needs to deal that **** away from his apartment. I don't see why he'd even wan't all that attention on his own living place, he would smarter to just meet people at random locations.
I do agree though, it doesn't matter what he's selling. He needs to deal that **** away from his apartment. I don't see why he'd even wan't all that attention on his own living place, he would smarter to just meet people at random locations.
#46
04-24-2010, 10:46 PM
Seanstang makes a good point. Why would a dealer want to draw that kind of attention from everyone around him. It's exactly what law enforcement is looking for. People traffic in and out of one location draws a red flag on every level. He's just itching for a sting operation.
Also this thread doesn't specify why or why not people smke pot. Drug dealing is just that, no sugar coating it with what is considered more or less harmful..
It wouldn't be any less risky to live near a pot dealer than a guy who throws keg parties everyday. Something will happen eventually that will endanger any one close by.. Common sense goes out the window with alcohol or drug use sometimes..
Also this thread doesn't specify why or why not people smke pot. Drug dealing is just that, no sugar coating it with what is considered more or less harmful..
It wouldn't be any less risky to live near a pot dealer than a guy who throws keg parties everyday. Something will happen eventually that will endanger any one close by.. Common sense goes out the window with alcohol or drug use sometimes..
#47
04-26-2010, 08:08 AM
i would assume redneck and pistonsfans don't have kido's. weed is not a hard drug and i have no problems with people who want to come home after working all day and smoke a bowl. or the guy who smokes occasionally at a party. i smoked the **** out of it in high school but freaked out when i found out my daughter had experimented with it. dealing drugs around kids(which apartments are full of) is a bad deal for everyone. whether it's weed or crack. not everyone of his buyers is 100% an occasional smoker of weed. some of them are probably into other harder ****. if you have kids 500 then it is a big deal. if you only have a few months and want to leave then keep your eyes open and watch out for the next few months. don't bother getting involved. it is kind of ignorant to say "it's just weed". we don't know who is in 500's family and haven't seen the people lurking around his apartment.
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