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Not swapping. You guys are nuts for trying.
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Not swapping but find the topic interesting.
12.73%
Thinking about doing the swap but not in the next year.
16.82%
Definitely going to do the swap in the next year or so.
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Doing it now. Looking for an engine or awaiting delivery.
15.45%
Doing it now. Already bought an engine.
18.64%
Done. Got my 5.4L and showin my tail lights to camaro's every day.
7.73%
Screw 5.4, I'm going diesel 4cylinder.
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Old 12-27-2007, 07:02 AM
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Welcome over here!

You have joined a great bunch of TECH guys here. Good deal on the engine! Gonna be watchin your build, so keep us posted.
 
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got cover and tensioner.

also have a FRPP windage tray kit. 30 for the tray, 150 + ship for the cover w/tensioner.
 
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Old 12-27-2007, 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by r3dn3ck
got cover and tensioner.

also have a FRPP windage tray kit. 30 for the tray, 150 + ship for the cover w/tensioner.
Money sent, now wheres that pic of where to gring on the stock headers woman?
 
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Old 12-27-2007, 10:47 AM
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did I ever send you the article that Dan Simons did? It's got a great pic on the NOV03_5.jpg attachment. K.. email addy rejected the attachment. odd...

you can find it at http://www.squarerootofone.com/image...4l/NOV03_5.jpg
 

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Old 12-27-2007, 11:37 AM
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Ahh thats nice i see what they did with the exhaust... good ****...
that should be cake if i can get a piece of pipe..
 
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Old 12-27-2007, 11:39 AM
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I just bought a 3 foot section of 2.5" exhaust tubing from summit. Cost almost nothing.
 
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hmm good call... i might be able to find some down at the shop....
 
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Originally Posted by r3dn3ck
did I ever send you the article that Dan Simons did? It's got a great pic on the NOV03_5.jpg attachment. K.. email addy rejected the attachment. odd...

you can find it at http://www.squarerootofone.com/image...4l/NOV03_5.jpg
Thanks for the link dude, you dont happen to have the entire article do you? My email is now single94supra@gmail.com and not the old one. My bad, should have told you. Kinda curious as to what the engine made and whatnot. If you happen to have it uploaded or whatever, post the link here. Thats damn imformitive!
 
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Old 12-27-2007, 01:31 PM
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shakin, i have a cover and possibly tensioners for you if you need them.
 
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question the billet timming adjuster kits.. if i buy one of those i shouldnt need to buy a trigger wheel should i one comes with it.. im replacing the stock one.. as im planning for a supecharger... dont know if ill go super... but im thinking i might... here is a link to MMR go to products then to 199-2004 sohc parts... and its there...

http://www.modularmustangracing.com/

its labeled as Billet Aluminum Timing adjuster kit

part # so you can jsut find all for it
220113

I got Gift certificates to MMR... what a good GF
 
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Old 12-27-2007, 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by myillwillinc
shakin, i have a cover and possibly tensioners for you if you need them.
I need a timing cover and tensioners I think he got some from R3d.
 
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r3d, you didnt happen to put a belt tensioner in the box did you? Just realized tonight they are diff. As long as the arms and chains are in there thats cool, just dont wanna order a new belt tensioner(that bolts to the front timing cover) if you threw one in the box. I assume you were talking about the chain tensioners correct?
 
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Old 12-28-2007, 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by singlesupra
Thanks for the link dude, you dont happen to have the entire article do you? My email is now single94supra@gmail.com and not the old one. My bad, should have told you. Kinda curious as to what the engine made and whatnot. If you happen to have it uploaded or whatever, post the link here. Thats damn imformitive!
just sent you the two part article series. enjoy. I'll upload it to a secure location so you guys can all use it... probably photobucket or something so it's faster.

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shakin, i have a cover and possibly tensioners for you if you need them.
I still have a front cover and belt tensioner FS.... 120 is the last price I'm told I posted for it... shipping extra.

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question the billet timming adjuster kits.. if i buy one of those i shouldnt need to buy a trigger wheel should i one comes with it.. im replacing the stock one.. as im planning for a supecharger... dont know if ill go super... but im thinking i might... here is a link to MMR go to products then to 199-2004 sohc parts... and its there...

http://www.modularmustangracing.com/

its labeled as Billet Aluminum Timing adjuster kit

part # so you can jsut find all for it
220113

I got Gift certificates to MMR... what a good GF
that timing adjuster does eliminate the usefulness of the trigger wheel inside the front cover but i don't remember if removing it will allow the timing gears to move out of proper alignment. I have a spare reluctor wheel somewhere if you need one.

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r3d, you didnt happen to put a belt tensioner in the box did you? Just realized tonight they are diff. As long as the arms and chains are in there thats cool, just dont wanna order a new belt tensioner(that bolts to the front timing cover) if you threw one in the box. I assume you were talking about the chain tensioners correct?
nope.. sent the chain tensioners, lower timing gears, arms and guides and a bunch of those impossible to find OEM bolts and a good coolant neck.
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I need a timing cover and tensioners I think he got some from R3d.
I have a belt tensioner and timing cover on hand. LMK if anyone needs them.
 
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Old 12-28-2007, 09:12 AM
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Got the parts r3d, just dropped off by UPS. Another smooth transaction, anyone buying parts dont hesitate to deal with him.
 
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no prob mang. Enjoy.
 
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Old 12-28-2007, 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by r3dn3ck
I have a belt tensioner and timing cover on hand. LMK if anyone needs them.

$120 + shipping correct? Could you get me a quote on shipping to 77536? Just shoot me a PM with your PayPal and the total with shipping and I'll send it in the morning.
 
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Default new hood....

I just bought a 2000 Cobra SVT hood.. with functional hood scoop,

... so im so broke now... i cant afford to P!$$.....
 
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Old 12-28-2007, 12:38 PM
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nice. I've been thinking about one but I just can't bring myself to go there.
 
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Old 12-28-2007, 01:52 PM
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it was either do it now.. or dont do it ever kinda thing... i have a friend who can paint... and everything
and im military over seas... sooo..... its either have it shipped with my household goods... or pay 600$ to ship it and import taxes... and it was just ridiculous....

so i did it now... and push everything back about 2 weeks.... since im going to be waiting on the intake manifold from HPS... looks like its not going to be for a lil bit.... and i want a direct fit manifold... i dont want to plates or nothing so i sold my p-51....
 
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Old 12-29-2007, 06:40 AM
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Sounds like you got it all planned out! Just stick to it! That's what I tell myself.....over and over..............over and over.......

With a piece like the HPS 5.4l intake, I can't blame ya for wanting to scrap the p-51. If I wanted something that look 5.0l I would install a 5.0l.

HPS has got it right!
 
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Old 12-29-2007, 10:12 AM
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Only thing left for me to do is put on the valve covers. Then its time to drop the heart back in. Hope to get most of it done tonight, WOOT!

EDIT:: oh yea, r3d, in those links it shows ONLY the pass side and center divider was modified on the h-pipe, is that correct or do both sides need the extra lenght added to them?
 
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Old 12-29-2007, 10:51 AM
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Woot well hopefully you get it in!

i liked the way the P-51 looked...

only bad thing was you cant keep the strut tower brace
 
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Old 12-29-2007, 10:57 AM
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we only had to mod the pass side and spread it out a bit on mine.

BTW... killer work man. We're gunna hafta meet someday.
 
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Old 12-29-2007, 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by r3dn3ck
we only had to mod the pass side and spread it out a bit on mine.

BTW... killer work man. We're gunna hafta meet someday.

I think it went together pretty quick considering a did a complete teardown of bottom end(rings, bearings, seals), teardown of heads, headswap, timing etc... Hope it runs pretty good, am really eyeballing the **** outa that new HPS 5.4 intake(unless you wanna part with your HPS 4.6 intake now LOL)

My only real issue, well question is a 4.6 timing chain, if no marks are visable you can fold the chain in half and mark both flat links. However, when you fold a 5.4 chain in half one end is the flat links and the other is where the chain folds. I took a gamble and hope I am right in that you can mark that area and be golden also, since it is still a link. Hope so anyway LOL.

Anyone happen to have a hayned or ford manual with that info in it would be really appreciated, I think I remember seeing that that is correct when I was at the ford dealership the other day, hope so anyway.

Also, figured out a way to install the followers(rockers) WITHOUT compressing the valves. I was concerned about causing a spongy lifter by using this method so I done 4 of them, brought them to work and rechecked the entire thing and the lash adjuster was still in the same shape it was when it left the factory. Anyone interested I can do a small writeup and video. Saves a shitload of time and is 100% safe if done correctly and is very easy to do
 
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Old 12-29-2007, 03:06 PM
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hmm so how does the timing work out...
 
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Old 12-29-2007, 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by shakin_bakin
hmm so how does the timing work out...
Hope its dot to dot like its supposed to be LOL. Might throw the degree wheel on and check just to verify the cams are where the supposed to be IF i can find the stock cam specs.
 
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ya but they dont go to a flat chain link on both sides....
.... so it would be off...
just dosnt sound wright... hmm guess we should look up lightning timing and see how they do it...
going to go looking for a wright up.....
 
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so im looking for a camshafts for my 5.4 ... im wanting to go supercharged... so i should probably just buy 2 camshafts for a 5.4 supercharged lightning then shouldnt i?

Probably be the best cams.. instead of a 4.6 supercharged cams cause the 4.6 cams arent made for the 5.4
 
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Ok well 5.4's have 122 links in the chain so there should be one flat link on each side that you mark....
shouldnt have one link and the other side not have a flat link either....
here is a write up for timing though...


http://www.modulardepot.com/articlesp.php?aid=32
 
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Originally Posted by shakin_bakin
Ok well 5.4's have 122 links in the chain so there should be one flat link on each side that you mark....
shouldnt have one link and the other side not have a flat link either....
here is a write up for timing though...


http://www.modulardepot.com/articlesp.php?aid=32

There is noway to fold the chain in half and acheive 2 flat marks with equal links on both sides. A 4.6 chain yes, it hits perfect. 5.4 does not.

As for the cams, apparently ALL PI 2v's use the same cams, lightning engines too
 


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