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Old 04-28-2010 | 08:54 AM
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I have the H&R supersports without the isos and the car came with the Illuminas. I have the shocks and stuts set to 5 which is the highest setting and my front still rubs sometimes. I really love the ride height and I don't believe in getting coilovers right now. My mechanic said they might be blown and getting Bilsteins could solve the problem. Any ideas guys?
 
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Old 04-28-2010 | 10:10 AM
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What is causing you to think the struts are blown? Where is the car rubing? Just setting them dampers to a higher setting isn't going to keep the tires from rubbing anything, only a little stiffer dampening of spring harmonics (when you load the suspension or hit a bump it will be a little more firm and dampen the spring rather than being shaky and jittery). Struts in no way affect ride height. If it rubs durring turning it could be an alignment problem, tires, ect. Struts usually need to me replaced every 50K miles. If you can push down on a corner of the car and it bounces more than once the struts are probably bad.
 
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Old 04-28-2010 | 10:21 AM
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I know that struts don't affect ride height. The tires rub when I hit a dip in the road mainly on the freeway.
 
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Old 04-29-2010 | 01:54 PM
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What are they rubbing on? the fenderwell liner or the fender lip? In any case, I highly doubt that your struts or shocks are blown.
 
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Old 04-29-2010 | 04:25 PM
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It rubs on the inner fender well. I was told by my shop that because i have my car so low that I probably bottomed out my struts and that I need to replace them with shocks and struts for a fox body (Bilsteins of coarse).

I wanted to get the MM coilover kit with the HDs but my shop said that I don't need them and would never use them to their full potential. So for right now he said to swap over to the bilsteins see what I think. Then if i still want to get the coilovers i can just convert them.

Oh and By the way, for the MM coilovers do I have to have the MM 4 bolt CC plates? I have a 3 bolt kit on right now. I believe its by BBK. Came with the car when i bought it.
 

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Old 04-29-2010 | 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Steeda21
It rubs on the inner fender well. I was told by my shop that because i have my car so low that I probably bottomed out my struts and that I need to replace them with shocks and struts for a fox body (Bilsteins of coarse).

I wanted to get the MM coilover kit with the HDs but Elliot at Valaya Racing said that I don't need them and would never use them to their full potential. So for right now he said to swap over to the bilsteins see what I think. Then if i still want to get the coilovers i can just convert them.

Oh and By the way, for the MM coilovers do I have to have the MM 4 bolt CC plates? I have a 3 bolt kit on right now. I believe its by BBK. Came with the car when i bought it.
My car rubs too so I guess my shocks (brand new that came in the FR3 kit) are blown too......NOT.

I think this guy is lost and he's just feeding you bullshit. If you do anything I'd do some coilovers, that's it. There's no reason putting in bilsteins, your shocks are fine, it's just the fact that the car is lowered. Now, if it didn't do this before and it's just now starting to do it then maybe so. But my car has rubbed the fenderwell since day one and will continue too until I get coilovers and pull the fenderwells out in place for some aluminum.
 
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Old 04-29-2010 | 05:02 PM
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sometimes i hate dealing with some of these shop guys.
 

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Old 04-29-2010 | 05:05 PM
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****** a man..sometimes i hate dealing with some of these shop guys.
I know how you feel man....

The only people I trust anymore are well....you guys lol.
 
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Old 04-29-2010 | 05:09 PM
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You can put coilovers on you illuminas also. I have illuminas but will upgrade to Koni DA struts sometime.
 
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Old 04-29-2010 | 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by 01FR500
You can put coilovers on you illuminas also. I have illuminas but will upgrade to Koni DA struts sometime.
to be honest I don't really care for the adjustability. not to mention i moved it to the highest setting and saw no difference between the 5 and the 3
 
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Originally Posted by 08mustang_gt
I know how you feel man....

The only people I trust anymore are well....you guys lol.
sometimes the mustang modding in general gives me a headache
 
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Old 04-29-2010 | 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Steeda21
to be honest I don't really care for the adjustability. not to mention i moved it to the highest setting and saw no difference between the 5 and the 3
It's not a very big difference in all reality between the settings. I've seen graphs of the KYB, Tokico, Koni and another brand of adjustable dampers, may have been bilsteins since they are progressive. KYB is basically no difference between the settings, Tokico had more of a difference but probably a very significant amount, and the Koni dampers had a very wide range of adjustment. I can tell a difference between 1-3-5, but it's nothing great.
 
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Old 04-29-2010 | 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Steeda21
****** a man..sometimes i hate dealing with some of these shop guys.
Bring it to a ford dealership, theyll treatcha right. (sarcasm in every god possible known way, if you take it there you deserve a kick in the ***** for the punishment theyll give you) Good luck finding a good shop man.
 
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Old 04-30-2010 | 08:53 AM
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Bring it over to my house already so I can look at it and tell you what's up. **** you could come over to my work over by Moffet and I can look there. You got my digits still I think. If not, elliot does. So does Mike and pretty much everyone else around us.

Yes you need MM CC plates (or some 4 bolt plate, I ONLY recommend MM) to do coil over. Yes using your tokico's is probably a good plan and it's cheap to do.
 
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Old 04-30-2010 | 09:27 AM
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Old 05-01-2010 | 08:13 AM
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I don't know about the KYB's having no difference between settings. When I go from 1-4 (hardest settings) on the struts, and 3-8 (hardest settings on the rear shocks) my car becomes super super stiff and unfun to ride in. There is a very large difference when I change settings.
 
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Old 05-01-2010 | 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by spike_africa
I don't know about the KYB's having no difference between settings. When I go from 1-4 (hardest settings) on the struts, and 3-8 (hardest settings on the rear shocks) my car becomes super super stiff and unfun to ride in. There is a very large difference when I change settings.
After seaching for the graphs, your probably right. I was thinking about the KYB shocks. The graphs show that the KYB struts actually do have a pretty wide low speed dampening range with a little narrower high speed range, the Tokico struts being a little more linear across the settings for all speeds. The KYB shock settings are all nearly the same though. This data is surely biased towards Koni though.

http://www.koni-na.com/presentations...g/slide10.html
 
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