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Old 02-09-2006 | 04:37 PM
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well, the truth is I'm never going to save enough money to fullfill my dream of owning a KB... not for at least 2 more years at least (because of finishing school, having to take a million certification tests which cost money, moving, getting a new job). So in the ultimate goal to obtain more power for my car I've decided on the ultimate NA mod.. cams of course. (again)

ok. I'm thinking if I do this I need to go all out.. which I'm thinking VT Stage 2, so I would need new springs and valves, correct? Anything else I should replace? stock cam gears are alright? I'm hoping to hit 300 at the wheels with some luck of the tuners, we'll see.. should I be concerned with replacing anything else because of the horsepower?
 
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Old 02-09-2006 | 04:39 PM
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screw KB, why does everyone and theyre mom think KBs are the greatest blowers of all time??? theyre over rated...

get a Novi 2000 mongoose kit and dont look back
 
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Old 02-09-2006 | 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by SpringsStang
screw KB, why does everyone and theyre mom think KBs are the greatest blowers of all time??? theyre over rated...

get a Novi 2000 mongoose kit and dont look back
They are NOT overrated when it comes to the street
 
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Old 02-09-2006 | 05:03 PM
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Christie, cams are never going to get you where you want and only delay saving for a blower even more. I think you might be a bit caught up in "I have to get a KB or nothing". Why not get a nice used Vortech for about $2500? It's gonna cost you over a $1000 for the cams (cams+springs+tuning) anyway. And that's installing yourself.
 
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Old 02-09-2006 | 05:10 PM
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Kb's are overrated imho...and yes you will need new valvesprings..
 
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Old 02-09-2006 | 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by MT's#1Customer!
Christie, cams are never going to get you where you want and only delay saving for a blower even more. I think you might be a bit caught up in "I have to get a KB or nothing". Why not get a nice used Vortech for about $2500? It's gonna cost you over a $1000 for the cams (cams+springs+tuning) anyway. And that's installing yourself.
I actually think it would be a good idea. Shes prolly already thought of the used blower idea. Dont get ripped off on a used blower thats prolly almost croaked.
 
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Old 02-09-2006 | 05:19 PM
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You do not need to replace the valves they are fine just the cams and springs need to be replaced.

And people like the KB because it makes crazy power down low that street cars love. drag racers will take that power up top so you can get out of the hole and move it. Me i wouldnt use anything but ATI.
 
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Old 02-09-2006 | 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by spike_africa
You do not need to replace the valves they are fine just the cams and springs need to be replaced.

And people like the KB because it makes crazy power down low that street cars love. drag racers will take that power up top so you can get out of the hole and move it. Me i wouldnt use anything but ATI.
Prochargers whine too much.
 
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Old 02-09-2006 | 05:49 PM
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well I won't buy used parts, I've been down that road once and was burned. I'd rather just fork out the extra cash for new parts and not have to worry about it. I have considered S/C's other than the KB. Yeah cams will cost me around $1k, but I'd have to save almost another $3k past that just for a mongoose kit. With all the money I have to dish out on just my certification tests I'll be taking over the next year I'll never be able to save that much. But just doing cams I could do. and then after I'm done with certs, school, and get moved and into a new job hopefully making some decent money i can afford a new block and any s/c i want lol
 
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Old 02-09-2006 | 05:52 PM
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Sounds good to me Christie.Get it done before STL?
 
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Old 02-09-2006 | 05:53 PM
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yeah should be done in April I think, gonna try to FINALLY do my DD's by WFC also lol
 
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Old 02-09-2006 | 05:54 PM
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TRANSLATION: I'm being realistic now = staying SLOW

Nitrous is a great option if the funds for a blower aren't available....unless you wanna stay SLOW



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Old 02-09-2006 | 05:55 PM
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That would be awesome.We could get some killer pic's with our DSG's
 
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Old 02-09-2006 | 06:00 PM
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yeah.. my car will be slow, I know.. but I have too many other things to focus on for now
 
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Old 02-09-2006 | 06:49 PM
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shes teh smert oen!!!!!
 
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Old 02-09-2006 | 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by JayC
TRANSLATION: I'm being realistic now = staying SLOW

Nitrous is a great option if the funds for a blower aren't available....unless you wanna stay SLOW



Jay
EXACTLY. Have you thought about the giggle gas Christie. Hell, you could do both cams AND the spray for less than the blower cost. VT stg 2's LOVE nitrous. Friend of mine is making 415 rwhp and over 500 lbft through an automatic with a set of VT's and a 100 shot. Something to mull over, I think you are making the right decision. School > KB anyday of the week. Hell, you may finish school and come across a nice clean 03 Cobra...
 
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Old 02-09-2006 | 07:42 PM
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at what hp do you generally need a new fuel pump? and what about fuel injectors? I know the 03's have the pink which are.. 24lb? I can't remember, but when do those have to be upgraded. and what about MAF? I'm trying to make my shopping list

I don't really care much for nitrous right now, but I wouldn't rule it out for the future because I'm more fond of it now than in the past.
 
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Old 02-09-2006 | 07:48 PM
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Front what I understand, when you do the 100 shot, its a good idea to get the focus pump, but as far as I know, the stock injectors are fine.
 
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Old 02-09-2006 | 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by csledd
at what hp do you generally need a new fuel pump? and what about fuel injectors? I know the 03's have the pink which are.. 24lb? I can't remember, but when do those have to be upgraded. and what about MAF? I'm trying to make my shopping list

I don't really care much for nitrous right now, but I wouldn't rule it out for the future because I'm more fond of it now than in the past.
Our fuel system is adequate untill around 350 rwhp. You might want to get a SVT Focus pump which can take about 425 rwhp.
 
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Old 02-09-2006 | 09:13 PM
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NA + Spray > blown

i'm poor also
 
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Old 02-09-2006 | 09:57 PM
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Actually Christie, spray might be a great option for you. Why? It has a low set up cost, gets great power for when you want it, AND you can pull it all off and sell it when you have the money for something else.

S****, I have a complete system off my car. For probably less then $600 you could get a nice setup (hint hint), make 350 rwhp no problem and not have to worry about killing the car.
 
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Old 02-10-2006 | 08:12 AM
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If you do go with nitrous then NX is the only way to go.

I think ported heads and cams would be a nicer addition than a blower or nitrous though. Your not adding something that puts tons of stress on the motor. Plus you get a brand new valvetrain. And I think the cams would sound so good at idle.
 
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