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csledd 02-09-2006 03:37 PM

I'm being realistic now = staying NA
 
well, the truth is I'm never going to save enough money to fullfill my dream of owning a KB... not for at least 2 more years at least (because of finishing school, having to take a million certification tests which cost money, moving, getting a new job). So in the ultimate goal to obtain more power for my car I've decided on the ultimate NA mod.. cams of course. (again)

ok. I'm thinking if I do this I need to go all out.. which I'm thinking VT Stage 2, so I would need new springs and valves, correct? Anything else I should replace? stock cam gears are alright? I'm hoping to hit 300 at the wheels with some luck of the tuners, we'll see.. should I be concerned with replacing anything else because of the horsepower?

Badfish 02-09-2006 03:39 PM

screw KB, why does everyone and theyre mom think KBs are the greatest blowers of all time??? theyre over rated...

get a Novi 2000 mongoose kit and dont look back

csledd 02-09-2006 03:42 PM


Originally Posted by SpringsStang
screw KB, why does everyone and theyre mom think KBs are the greatest blowers of all time??? theyre over rated...

get a Novi 2000 mongoose kit and dont look back

They are NOT overrated when it comes to the street

WaterDR 02-09-2006 04:03 PM

Christie, cams are never going to get you where you want and only delay saving for a blower even more. I think you might be a bit caught up in "I have to get a KB or nothing". Why not get a nice used Vortech for about $2500? It's gonna cost you over a $1000 for the cams (cams+springs+tuning) anyway. And that's installing yourself.

4.6 Love 02-09-2006 04:10 PM

Kb's are overrated imho...and yes you will need new valvesprings..

jeredan2003 02-09-2006 04:16 PM


Originally Posted by MT's#1Customer!
Christie, cams are never going to get you where you want and only delay saving for a blower even more. I think you might be a bit caught up in "I have to get a KB or nothing". Why not get a nice used Vortech for about $2500? It's gonna cost you over a $1000 for the cams (cams+springs+tuning) anyway. And that's installing yourself.

I actually think it would be a good idea. Shes prolly already thought of the used blower idea. Dont get ripped off on a used blower thats prolly almost croaked.

spike_africa 02-09-2006 04:19 PM

You do not need to replace the valves they are fine just the cams and springs need to be replaced.

And people like the KB because it makes crazy power down low that street cars love. drag racers will take that power up top so you can get out of the hole and move it. Me i wouldnt use anything but ATI.

jeredan2003 02-09-2006 04:22 PM


Originally Posted by spike_africa
You do not need to replace the valves they are fine just the cams and springs need to be replaced.

And people like the KB because it makes crazy power down low that street cars love. drag racers will take that power up top so you can get out of the hole and move it. Me i wouldnt use anything but ATI.

Prochargers whine too much.

csledd 02-09-2006 04:49 PM

well I won't buy used parts, I've been down that road once and was burned. I'd rather just fork out the extra cash for new parts and not have to worry about it. I have considered S/C's other than the KB. Yeah cams will cost me around $1k, but I'd have to save almost another $3k past that just for a mongoose kit. With all the money I have to dish out on just my certification tests I'll be taking over the next year I'll never be able to save that much. But just doing cams I could do. and then after I'm done with certs, school, and get moved and into a new job hopefully making some decent money i can afford a new block and any s/c i want lol

Lances03SVT 02-09-2006 04:52 PM

Sounds good to me Christie.Get it done before STL?

csledd 02-09-2006 04:53 PM

yeah should be done in April I think, gonna try to FINALLY do my DD's by WFC also lol

JayC 02-09-2006 04:54 PM

TRANSLATION: I'm being realistic now = staying SLOW:poke:

Nitrous is a great option if the funds for a blower aren't available....unless you wanna stay SLOW:nono:



Jay

Lances03SVT 02-09-2006 04:55 PM

That would be awesome.We could get some killer pic's with our DSG's :)

csledd 02-09-2006 05:00 PM

yeah.. my car will be slow, I know.. but I have too many other things to focus on for now :(

TEXASPAUL 02-09-2006 05:49 PM

shes teh smert oen!!!!!

madmatt 02-09-2006 06:25 PM


Originally Posted by JayC
TRANSLATION: I'm being realistic now = staying SLOW:poke:

Nitrous is a great option if the funds for a blower aren't available....unless you wanna stay SLOW:nono:



Jay

EXACTLY. Have you thought about the giggle gas Christie. Hell, you could do both cams AND the spray for less than the blower cost. VT stg 2's LOVE nitrous. Friend of mine is making 415 rwhp and over 500 lbft through an automatic with a set of VT's and a 100 shot. Something to mull over, I think you are making the right decision. School > KB anyday of the week. Hell, you may finish school and come across a nice clean 03 Cobra...

csledd 02-09-2006 06:42 PM

at what hp do you generally need a new fuel pump? and what about fuel injectors? I know the 03's have the pink which are.. 24lb? I can't remember, but when do those have to be upgraded. and what about MAF? I'm trying to make my shopping list :)

I don't really care much for nitrous right now, but I wouldn't rule it out for the future because I'm more fond of it now than in the past.

madmatt 02-09-2006 06:48 PM

Front what I understand, when you do the 100 shot, its a good idea to get the focus pump, but as far as I know, the stock injectors are fine.

MattJ 02-09-2006 06:49 PM


Originally Posted by csledd
at what hp do you generally need a new fuel pump? and what about fuel injectors? I know the 03's have the pink which are.. 24lb? I can't remember, but when do those have to be upgraded. and what about MAF? I'm trying to make my shopping list :)

I don't really care much for nitrous right now, but I wouldn't rule it out for the future because I'm more fond of it now than in the past.

Our fuel system is adequate untill around 350 rwhp. You might want to get a SVT Focus pump which can take about 425 rwhp.

Mug11 02-09-2006 08:13 PM

:spamsign:

NA + Spray > blown :beerchug:

i'm poor also :devil2:

WaterDR 02-09-2006 08:57 PM

Actually Christie, spray might be a great option for you. Why? It has a low set up cost, gets great power for when you want it, AND you can pull it all off and sell it when you have the money for something else.

S****, I have a complete system off my car. For probably less then $600 you could get a nice setup (hint hint), make 350 rwhp no problem and not have to worry about killing the car.

jeredan2003 02-10-2006 07:12 AM

If you do go with nitrous then NX is the only way to go.

I think ported heads and cams would be a nicer addition than a blower or nitrous though. Your not adding something that puts tons of stress on the motor. Plus you get a brand new valvetrain. And I think the cams would sound so good at idle.


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