Linky to FTP: http://www.ftperformance.net/

 

just got a text from TJ, he said he might be done this week with cars and next week start on some headers for da 5.4 foolios

 

Sveeeeeeet.

 

 

BTW to the peeps with the FTP headers. Are you having to drop the K Member to get them in there? Or can I do it on a drive-on lift?

 

You'll want to pull the k-member. If you have a tubular K-member you might maybe be able to squeeze em' in but I doubt it. It's really tight in there with the motor mount in the way.

 

i am F I N A L L Y almost done and will be able to drive it again....hopefully.

here is some pics

http://s942.photobucket.com/albums/a...rger%20set-up/

 

congrats there man!!!!!

 

here are some leaked spy pics i got today at the shop. he was making the headers clear the ac compressor, but anyoe wanting a set will have to get a tubular k-member for these....

 

looks like forward facing turbo headers... tommy, are you holding back some details.

 

naaa he is not holding back. if you look on his site towards the bottom it shows that he is going twin turbo.

 

I knew that and you knew that but he didn't mention it in the post... I figured people that troll and don't necessarily know his build would want some splainin's about why the tubes were faced forward.

 

Finally back in the US (was living in England for the last 2 years) and getting around to getting my 5.4 built and ready to be installed. Have been reading this thread for a while and finally am making my intentions known. Im going from a 4.6 (with compression issues) to a built 5.4 (manley pistons, H-beam rods, Trick Flow heads, etc) and am needing some clarification.

Have tried to read through this thread but am finding it hard to find the info that im looking for in it

Any chances we could get our own sub forum so it would be a little easier and can make individual threads instead of a monster post with a ton of info that is impossible to find anything in


What im looking for is what brackets can be used for a centrifugal supercharger to attach it to the 5.4? I remember some place was making or modifying stock pieces but cant find the post in the 318 pages...

 

Well, to be brutally honest: We have not solved that totally so it's no surprise you didn't find it.

A couple of us are working on a more permanent bolt-on solution that people can just buy but it's not there yet. What blower do you have?

 

I dont have one yet, still trying to decide on what one is best. Is there one mount that can be modified fairly easily to get it to fit?

I would love to do a roots/twin screw style but I dont want to cut a hole in my hood to get it to fit.

 

no hole needed. TorkTech has a perfectly good 5.4 setup that'll fit under a really reasonable if not a stock hood.

I need someone to send me a bracket for a vortech/paxton/procharger so I can make the drawing for HPS. In any event, it should't be a big deal or that expensive to have one made. It's just 1/2" aluminum plate and a few standoffs.

http://shop.torktech.com/spacerstoad...nginepair.aspx

 

I have a 96-99 4.6 2 valve vortech blower bracket. I'm not doing anything today or tomorrow and dont mind driving down to ya.

 

Ok this is way too long to read everything. So I will ask questions that I KNOW have already been asked but if you would please be kind to answer.

I have a 2001 Mustang GT Auto with a shift kit. I know nothing about shift kits but if you get on it when it shifts it breaks the tires loose.

Ok Monday I am going to look at a 5.4L out of a 2001 Expedition that was on an Auto for $650 with under 100K miles. Comes with all accessories.

What is the cheapest quickest way to get it in and running? What headers and what intake or adapters? Are there headers out yet that make the swap easy that are not $2K?

The only mods on the car now are Professional Products 75mm Throttle body and inlet. UPR CAI. As Pypes mufflers with rest of exhaust stock. All these mods came with the car when I bought it.

Also I have an 03 Cobra hood will the 5.4L fit under that? Thanks in advance.

 

woop woop! finally picked up the 5.4 block today!!! sitting in my trunk...well my dads trunk lmao. Looks good for 50 bucks..obviously needs to be bored out and cleaned. So far so good...got one of the main things which is the block. Next I must get the internals, Intake, and headers...Time to work like a dog.

 

deal. PM'd address and digits. I'll be here all day. May just start the beast today if everything goes right. I had a fuel line problem last night when I was sealing up loose ends and details. In theory I just need 2 parts from summit to show up today and I'll be able to start it.

No. So there. Juss playin.

A 5.4 will make breaking the tires loose A LOT EASIER. You'll want to pull that shift kit out or the 5.4's tq and that kits aggressiveness will net you a broken sumpin' or other.


Great price. Pick it up. Don't hesitate.
Cheapest sucks dick. The easiest way to do it right is: Your 4.6 exhaust, HPS intake manifold, cherry picker and 2-3 days of work. You'll net about 80lbs tq and 50hp over your old 4.6 from the average swap.

Exhaust situation:
HEADERS:
Stock exhaust manifolds: direct bolt on, sometimes a little grinding on the passenger side one.
Shorties: FRPP, JBA . Direct bolt on.
Longtube: FTPperformance.com about 1200 bucks all in IIRC. Unlocks at least 20hp.

Mid-Pipe:
These can be modified pretty easily. Unless you go longtube there's usually little reason to dick wtih the one you have unless it's to replace it with an aftermarket unit or to rip out the cats (don't rip out cats, that's naughty)

They'll all bolt directly back on and are fine for this use case.

It'll fit under a stock GT/V6 hood. The cobra hood will clear just the same.


Get yourself a front cover with tensioner as soon as you can. They can be a bitch to find when time crunch comes.

 

Thanks R3dn3ck. The only reason I want to do it cheap now is because I have a buddy that wants my '01 4.6L to put in his 97 Saleen. So I can sell my motor for what I buy this one for. I have a cherry picker, and all the tools plus a shop to do it in.

What is going to be my biggest problem I run into?

 

there really aren't any hard parts. It's retardedly easy. The worst thing you could do is use adapter plates. Other than that it's super straightforward. When the time comes I'll PM you my digits and you can call for specific questions. Just start by going and getting the HPS intake. www.hiperformancesolutions.com. Get it soon or you could be waiting several months.

 

Started it for the first time in ages today. There's a few bugs (various kinds of leaks) to sort out but it starts. Sound quality is probably very bad. Cell phone camera.


EDIT: Updated video. It'll play on most devices now.

 

congrats r3d. it will be ready for some nitrous in no time!!!

 

Allright guys....I do not know if the heads are a freak of nature or the block is....But got the tensioner guide squared away. I had to completely remove the one vane on the backside of the tensioner nearest the hump on the head for it to work....
So just for future reference, Non-PI windsor block and PI Romeo heads, you may need to modify the timing chain guide to sit flush.

Now all I need to do is bolt the timing cover back up, put the exhaust manifolds back on, and the motor mounts on and I "should" be good to go to dump it back in.

 

Finally got some dyno numbers. Of course now I have MORE problems to deal with, BUT.......................Mustang dyno..........401WHP and 435 tq. The run started at 2800 RPM and it made 350 ft. lbs. there. Should be nice, if I can ever get everything working right. It somehow blew the diaphragm in the bypass valve. Gotta fix that now. Also, doesn't want to start real well and idle surges etc. (yes I plugged the vac line to the bypass)

 

I think from what I've read the best bet is going to be the 96-99 bracket, should be the closest to fitting.

Still workin with vortech, their tech line is um, not to great.

However props to the guys at tork tech for getting back to all my questions rediculously fast

 

stanger00 dropped a vortech bracket off to me yesterday. I'm going to try and do up a decent cad of it so we can solve this damned problem.

Could someone please volunteer to take ridiculously **** retentive measurements of a 5.4 front cover for me? I'll make the cad for a new bracket from them. Then I can send that to HPS and they'll probably make them.

OR, One of you with a spare front cover could volunteer to send that to HPS and I can send stanger00's bracket to them (they'll be returned unharmed), have them make a new bracket and send us back our parts. Bob did express interest.

EDIT: Talked to bob. Interest is definitely there. We're working on seeing if it's workable. What do you guys think is a fair price for 20lbs of precision machined aluminum? These are a limited run sorta item so the pricing will probably not be super cheap (like in the 100-150 dollar range). I'd think about $350 would be about the max that would be reasonable. That would probably be an acceptable return on the R&D with a run of 10-20 units sold over a year.

Nater: Please add that wisdom to the 5.4 swap writeup thread https://mustangboards.com/modular-4-...-write-up.html .

Horspla: how far were you able to wind it up? what kind of boost are you seeing? That's really good power. Nice to see the tq number still nice and high.

1996: I had the same experience with vortech. They're kinda dicks about it. Had the same experiece you had with torktech too. Hmmmmmm.... Oh yeah, and I have takers for 10 of those other things if we ever decide to make em.

 

Horspla: how far were you able to wind it up? what kind of boost are you seeing? That's really good power. Nice to see the tq number still nice and high

12#'s of boost. (4# lower). It starts bleeding off boost about 4000 RPM. Tuner said that's normal for an unported Eaton. Porting would lower IAT's and eliminate the boost dropoff. He wound it up to 6000 RPM. Peak HP was about 5500 but it didn't fall off real hard above that. Torque did drop off but was still well above 300 Ft. Lbs. I think a port job and maybe a 6# lower may be in order as I'm able to do it, (if I'm ever able )

 

Are you on stock cams?