View Poll Results: What are your 5.4L swap plans?
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Anyone intrested in 5.4L swaps, in here. Need you to opine.
#661
07-20-2006, 05:19 PM
Originally Posted by chip6990
i just picked up a 98 expedition front cover for $35 now i need to test my 2 procharger brackets to make sure they fit...
i am getting there...slowly but surely
i am getting there...slowly but surely
The new addition but not really to the 5.4, though i did put my UPR x pipe back on. it's not painted and it's still on jackstands on the front if your wondering, still have to tweek on the x pipe.
#662
07-20-2006, 05:44 PM
see if this adds it. oh and i still have to cut some of the back to clear the back of the TB, but since it doesn't have that one section like my stock 97 hood had, it will probably be a 4x3 hole, should be like 99 and up hoods. 5.4 plates make it almost an inch to much.
#664
07-20-2006, 08:53 PM
i still need a block. but i have the 255 fuel pump in and the trick 1 upper and lower control arms in. if i don't get a block by next week, i'll just go buy a new one from ford.
#666
07-21-2006, 08:29 PM
yeah, i've found them places like that but i was trying to get one local so i can just go pick it up...
i just did my frpp headers in high temp silver powdercoat. should look better then rust color..
i just did my frpp headers in high temp silver powdercoat. should look better then rust color..
#669
07-26-2006, 02:17 PM
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Magrathea/California
Posts: 9,865
nope... should be here this week... maybe early next week. They are paid for though so at least that expense is behind me.
They're Mahle .020 over flat tops for anyone not paying attention to previous posts. Should make around 10.5-10.75:1 CR with the head work being done.
They're Mahle .020 over flat tops for anyone not paying attention to previous posts. Should make around 10.5-10.75:1 CR with the head work being done.
#670
07-27-2006, 05:02 AM
Damn that sucks it's taking so long. The kit is nice though it comes in one box with the pistons, rings, and pins. I still need to take a pic though.
#674
07-28-2006, 07:36 AM
if anyone wants thier headers coated in high temp ceramic while they are out, pm me and i'll give u a quote...
#677
08-01-2006, 01:58 PM
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Magrathea/California
Posts: 9,865
sick. Looks like I'm gunna have to pick up a set of shorties to send ya.
Update on my project:
The heads are officially in progress. I finally had a chance to see the work so far and it's nice. We're opening up the chamber a little, removing the swirl dam, porting the runners and port matching the intake runner openings to the gaskets. Nothing fancy just a little improvement. My company is closer to selling so I'm hoping a nice check will be forthcoming and I'll be able to finish it all at once.
Update on my project:
The heads are officially in progress. I finally had a chance to see the work so far and it's nice. We're opening up the chamber a little, removing the swirl dam, porting the runners and port matching the intake runner openings to the gaskets. Nothing fancy just a little improvement. My company is closer to selling so I'm hoping a nice check will be forthcoming and I'll be able to finish it all at once.
#678
08-03-2006, 07:52 AM
thats cool. i'll take some pics this weekend of how mine is coming along. i'm gonna do alittle work on the heads once i get some cams and springs.
#681
08-07-2006, 02:23 PM
they been working on it for awhile it turned out real good. now when the 5.4 version comes out... watch out, there will be a few more 5.4 powered gt's out there..
#682
08-07-2006, 03:05 PM
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Magrathea/California
Posts: 9,865
w00t.
Another update... my adapter plates finally returned to me from testing duty. Genuine Reichard Racing billet plates. Damn they're pretty. Now all I have to worry about is details. Hooray.
Another update... my adapter plates finally returned to me from testing duty. Genuine Reichard Racing billet plates. Damn they're pretty. Now all I have to worry about is details. Hooray.
#684
08-11-2006, 01:47 PM
I myself will build a 5.4 for myself but I have a quick question. To save cash, I was thinking of convincing my dad to get a 5.4 when he buys a new truck in the furture and just swapping engines. My question is since my Mustang has a 2V 4.6, can I just simply swap the 3V heads to 2V heads and purchase a new timing cover or is more involved to make the 2V heads work? Also, vice-versa converting the 4.6 to 3V?
#685
08-11-2006, 01:58 PM
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Magrathea/California
Posts: 9,865
Great question:
The 3V engines use a revised motor mount setup so it's not as easy as just swapping from a pure bolt-up perspective.
Aditionally there are CMCP (charge motion control plates aka, IMRC's) in the 4.6 intake which complicate matters as they don't lend well to intake adapter plates and a lack of them is sure to boggle the newer EEC V computers.
That's just the very tip of the iceberg in 3v to 2v and back conversions. It's not easy, cheap, or probably worth doing given the relative cheapness of 98 and earlier 4V "B" heads which do bolt right up to the 2V block with a new timing cover and intake (and other little bits).
If you want to save cash, just buy a block and go to town. I can put you in touch with the place where I set up the GP and they'll give you the best price in town for pistons and rods and all that jazz if you want a forged lower end (recommended). I have a spare 5.4L front cover and all the tensioners, chains, guides, gears and such you'll need to finish up. I'll hook you up for lots less than it'd cost at the ford parts counter.
Optionally, there's always good deals on running 5.4L pull-outs on ebay and www.car-parts.com in which case you can just slap on a set of intake adapter plates and a PI intake and go to town, or go a step further with hotter cams and/or ported heads.
Saleen S330 has commented on the power in his and it would seem that even with simple ported 2V heads and stock cams he's traction limited into 4th gear.
The 3V engines use a revised motor mount setup so it's not as easy as just swapping from a pure bolt-up perspective.
Aditionally there are CMCP (charge motion control plates aka, IMRC's) in the 4.6 intake which complicate matters as they don't lend well to intake adapter plates and a lack of them is sure to boggle the newer EEC V computers.
That's just the very tip of the iceberg in 3v to 2v and back conversions. It's not easy, cheap, or probably worth doing given the relative cheapness of 98 and earlier 4V "B" heads which do bolt right up to the 2V block with a new timing cover and intake (and other little bits).
If you want to save cash, just buy a block and go to town. I can put you in touch with the place where I set up the GP and they'll give you the best price in town for pistons and rods and all that jazz if you want a forged lower end (recommended). I have a spare 5.4L front cover and all the tensioners, chains, guides, gears and such you'll need to finish up. I'll hook you up for lots less than it'd cost at the ford parts counter.
Optionally, there's always good deals on running 5.4L pull-outs on ebay and www.car-parts.com in which case you can just slap on a set of intake adapter plates and a PI intake and go to town, or go a step further with hotter cams and/or ported heads.
Saleen S330 has commented on the power in his and it would seem that even with simple ported 2V heads and stock cams he's traction limited into 4th gear.
#687
08-14-2006, 05:05 PM
Newest update for me is...
i installed the new aluminum high flow water pump on the car. you can tell it weighs less than the stocker.
I have long tube headers and shorty H pipe on the way. I guess i'm going to see if long tubes will work or not. it's already a tight fit now.
i know i've mentioned this awhile while back. before you install you 5.4, i would jump inside of the engine bay and try to figure where the header connects to the mid pipe, stock or shorty headers, and tap the passenger side engine bay wall with a ball peen hammer and dent it in, in that area. the header and mid pipe will be touching or a hair from touching when you drop the motor in.If you use your stock headers, at the part where it attaches to the mid pipe, on the side of it theres a peice that sticks out, why is it there, i have no idea, but cut that tab off. if you don't do this, when you give it some gas, the TQ will slam header/midpipe into the side and you'll hear it. not all the time though.
i hope long tubes hug that motor and if not...:wallbash:
In case someone wants to get one of these water pumps. If you go to www.fordparts.com type in 5R3Z-8501-A in the part search. it's 82 bucks. or go to www.lightningforceperformance.com look under the parts for lightings/harleys under cooling but they're 89 bucks and about 10 bucks shipping at both places. or you can go to your local Ford and pay 134 bucks for this. Fordparts.com sells stuff around 10-25% cheaper ford oem parts. They are high flow, and weighs 4lbs less than your stocker.
i installed the new aluminum high flow water pump on the car. you can tell it weighs less than the stocker.
I have long tube headers and shorty H pipe on the way. I guess i'm going to see if long tubes will work or not. it's already a tight fit now.
i know i've mentioned this awhile while back. before you install you 5.4, i would jump inside of the engine bay and try to figure where the header connects to the mid pipe, stock or shorty headers, and tap the passenger side engine bay wall with a ball peen hammer and dent it in, in that area. the header and mid pipe will be touching or a hair from touching when you drop the motor in.If you use your stock headers, at the part where it attaches to the mid pipe, on the side of it theres a peice that sticks out, why is it there, i have no idea, but cut that tab off. if you don't do this, when you give it some gas, the TQ will slam header/midpipe into the side and you'll hear it. not all the time though.
i hope long tubes hug that motor and if not...:wallbash:
In case someone wants to get one of these water pumps. If you go to www.fordparts.com type in 5R3Z-8501-A in the part search. it's 82 bucks. or go to www.lightningforceperformance.com look under the parts for lightings/harleys under cooling but they're 89 bucks and about 10 bucks shipping at both places. or you can go to your local Ford and pay 134 bucks for this. Fordparts.com sells stuff around 10-25% cheaper ford oem parts. They are high flow, and weighs 4lbs less than your stocker.
#689
08-16-2006, 01:18 PM
i will definitely have to drop the K member for the LT's. should be in by friday and maybe next week or the week after a new dyno run with them, hopefully push my 5.4 over the 300HP to the wheels mark.