View Poll Results: What are your 5.4L swap plans?
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#5912
Mounting Locations
If the 4.6 shares accessories, sensors, etc., with the 5.4 this is even better news. What I'm wondering now is do all the front engine acessories mount in the same location(s) as with the 4.6?
Second .... (and please by no means am I trying to dispute anyone's word) .... I've had a couple of folks SWEAR that shims are needed to install the 5.4 in the Mustang. I've also been informed that shims are not necessary. My question is, why would somebody get the impression that shims are needed in the first place?
Thanks again everybody for all the information and assistance.
Second .... (and please by no means am I trying to dispute anyone's word) .... I've had a couple of folks SWEAR that shims are needed to install the 5.4 in the Mustang. I've also been informed that shims are not necessary. My question is, why would somebody get the impression that shims are needed in the first place?
Thanks again everybody for all the information and assistance.
#5913
By shims, are they referring to k-member spacers? Because those are necessary when doing a 4v install. Otherwise, they are not needed. And yes, all of the accessories should mount the same. Unless I am mistaken, the only difference is the routing of the belt/tensioner setup. So some of the stuff from your 4.6 might not work. Other than that, you should be golden.
#5914
Good Question
By shims, are they referring to k-member spacers? Because those are necessary when doing a 4v install. Otherwise, they are not needed. And yes, all of the accessories should mount the same. Unless I am mistaken, the only difference is the routing of the belt/tensioner setup. So some of the stuff from your 4.6 might not work. Other than that, you should be golden.
Yes, I think the spacers (shims) were used on the K-member.
So do I understand you correctly that a 5.4 2-V swap does NOT require shims ... (???)
Thanks Again !!!
#5916
look at my web page... www.squarerootofone.com (it's finally back up and running) you'll see pics of the install. Nowhere are there pics of shims being used... mostly because they're not needed for a 2v. And yes, all the accessories mount in their stock location.
#5919
http://http://www.modularrevolution....ad.php?t=11048
thought this was important for us Modular guys
Don't use NGK plugs on windsor PI heads
thought this was important for us Modular guys
Don't use NGK plugs on windsor PI heads
Last edited by 96blackgt54; 02-04-2009 at 06:13 AM.
#5921
look at my web page... www.squarerootofone.com (it's finally back up and running) you'll see pics of the install.
#5922
http://http://www.modularrevolution....ad.php?t=11048
thought this was important for us Modular guys
Don't use NGK plugs on windsor PI heads
thought this was important for us Modular guys
Don't use NGK plugs on windsor PI heads
Anyhow! The link is at "modularrevolution.com" in the tech articles. It's about sparkplug threads from the brand NGK appearing in the combustion chamber. Not sure why NGK would be the only brand? Reason being, the guy has only seen it happen a few times and if it were a diffrent brand, my guess would be that brand would have done it to.
POOR machine work! ......Is it from Ford or that guy???? I think it's from Ford! All he said was he pulled the heads. That guy is great with the PI heads and I'm sure he would catch his self in a goof before he would post that.
Long story short.....check your plugs with the heads before mounting.
#5923
in any case... I'm hoping for more than 330 to the wheels. Any more is gravy. We'll see, someday. I've got to put together my nitrous kit now too. That's been in the plans but, thoughts of a blower keep surfacing too and there's a nice one around here for cheap that I might just pick up.
#5924
no the web site is back up and running... the car hasn't moved in weeks. don't get me started.
in any case... I'm hoping for more than 330 to the wheels. Any more is gravy. We'll see, someday. I've got to put together my nitrous kit now too. That's been in the plans but, thoughts of a blower keep surfacing too and there's a nice one around here for cheap that I might just pick up.
in any case... I'm hoping for more than 330 to the wheels. Any more is gravy. We'll see, someday. I've got to put together my nitrous kit now too. That's been in the plans but, thoughts of a blower keep surfacing too and there's a nice one around here for cheap that I might just pick up.
#5926
well I've just made a small purchase for my vehicle
masterpower t70 turbo set up fully jet hot coated and bolts to factory exhaust location
60lb injectors
03 cobra tank with twin GT pumps
and i bought some aeromotive rails with line/fittings the other day
small transformation happening soon
masterpower t70 turbo set up fully jet hot coated and bolts to factory exhaust location
60lb injectors
03 cobra tank with twin GT pumps
and i bought some aeromotive rails with line/fittings the other day
small transformation happening soon
how about i pay the money,
then i sent him a pm to find out what i needed to do electrically to make the gt pumps work
and i get a pm back "um what? there's not any fuel stuff included"
...it says in your add 03 cobra tank, 60lb injectors, dual gt pumps
"um it wouldn't let me edit the first post, you should have known that when the price kept decreasing that it didn't include all the other stuff"
dude are you stupid? people lower the price progressively till they get a buyer, not lower the price and take **** out and expect it to still sell if people weren't willing to pay the original price
thank god i ask about hooking the pumps up or I would have ended up with a box on my front door a hell of a lot lighter than i was expecting
#5931
Since you're right at that stage, can you tell me the specs for the bolts that go into the trans mounting holes? It would be nice info to have, so I can get the block on the stand right when I get it.
#5933
that sucks...been a long F'ng time
#5934
w00t for the headers. (wish i had a pair). r3d, arent yours worked so they flow better?
#5935
ok guys I am in the middle of the swap.
I have both motors sitting next to each other (2001 5.4 2v from f150 and my 02 gt 4.6)
Which of the two engines pulleys do I use? There are a few more on the 5.4 it seems, and a little bit of different positions.
Does the timing cover from the 4.6 fit the 5.4? If so, should I just use that? I wouldnt think it would fit.
I am just moving everything from a 4.6 to a 5.4 and getting it running by Sunday. Have the adaptors, headers, 8 bolt fly wheel, head change kit, etc already.
Can you think of anything I am going to run into that wont fit? And anything I need to use from the 4.6 on the 5.4 that I wouldnt notice obviously?
Quick responses would work wonders for me. I greatly appreciate it!
I have both motors sitting next to each other (2001 5.4 2v from f150 and my 02 gt 4.6)
Which of the two engines pulleys do I use? There are a few more on the 5.4 it seems, and a little bit of different positions.
Does the timing cover from the 4.6 fit the 5.4? If so, should I just use that? I wouldnt think it would fit.
I am just moving everything from a 4.6 to a 5.4 and getting it running by Sunday. Have the adaptors, headers, 8 bolt fly wheel, head change kit, etc already.
Can you think of anything I am going to run into that wont fit? And anything I need to use from the 4.6 on the 5.4 that I wouldnt notice obviously?
Quick responses would work wonders for me. I greatly appreciate it!
#5936
they're custom built from a box of tubes. Flow will never be a problem with them as they're made from 1.75" tube instead of the normal (for mustangs) 1.625".
Anybody want to buy a finished project?
Anybody want to buy a finished project?
#5937
ok guys I am in the middle of the swap.
I have both motors sitting next to each other (2001 5.4 2v from f150 and my 02 gt 4.6)
Which of the two engines pulleys do I use? There are a few more on the 5.4 it seems, and a little bit of different positions.
Does the timing cover from the 4.6 fit the 5.4? If so, should I just use that? I wouldnt think it would fit.
I am just moving everything from a 4.6 to a 5.4 and getting it running by Sunday. Have the adaptors, headers, 8 bolt fly wheel, head change kit, etc already.
Can you think of anything I am going to run into that wont fit? And anything I need to use from the 4.6 on the 5.4 that I wouldnt notice obviously?
Quick responses would work wonders for me. I greatly appreciate it!
I have both motors sitting next to each other (2001 5.4 2v from f150 and my 02 gt 4.6)
Which of the two engines pulleys do I use? There are a few more on the 5.4 it seems, and a little bit of different positions.
Does the timing cover from the 4.6 fit the 5.4? If so, should I just use that? I wouldnt think it would fit.
I am just moving everything from a 4.6 to a 5.4 and getting it running by Sunday. Have the adaptors, headers, 8 bolt fly wheel, head change kit, etc already.
Can you think of anything I am going to run into that wont fit? And anything I need to use from the 4.6 on the 5.4 that I wouldnt notice obviously?
Quick responses would work wonders for me. I greatly appreciate it!
Transfer your 4.6 oil pan and oil pickup tube and beat the 4.6 oil pan's front baffles down a quarter inch to clear the crank throw. Use the 5.4's heater tube (behind the water pump in the engine valley) and you should be good to go.
#5938
I mixed and matched pullies. All of them except for the PS pump and alternator are 8 rib from the 5.4, after that I just used a 6 rib belt. Timing cover from a 4.6 will NOT fit.
Transfer your 4.6 oil pan and oil pickup tube and beat the 4.6 oil pan's front baffles down a quarter inch to clear the crank throw. Use the 5.4's heater tube (behind the water pump in the engine valley) and you should be good to go.
Transfer your 4.6 oil pan and oil pickup tube and beat the 4.6 oil pan's front baffles down a quarter inch to clear the crank throw. Use the 5.4's heater tube (behind the water pump in the engine valley) and you should be good to go.
So then I should just use all the pullies from the 4.6, being that I am leaving the ps pump and alt from the stang on the stang.
#5939
not necessarily. Use a 6 rib belt and whatever combination of pullies makes your belt fit and your life easiest. I'm using the PS, AC and alt from my 4.6 but every idler and tensioner pulley is a 8 rib from the 5.4 as well as the crank pulley being from the 5.4. You could probably use all your 4.6's pullies but you'll have to figure out the needed belt length and go to the parts store. That's the easiest part and I'd highly recommend you not stress on it... you'll be able to figure it out no problem.