View Poll Results: What are your 5.4L swap plans?
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#4743
I found it. Mod Mustang Racing. Do these allow the PI intake to clear a stock hood on a 5.4 swap?? (BTW I found it exhausting trying to read 150+ pages on this thread trying to dind all of this info so thansk for any help!)
#4744
shorties will fit without any issues, a x-pipe will fit with alittle 'bending' or brute force to give it an inch. a h-pipe needs alittle more work. as for the coil paks, my pass. side sits at an angle and i'm fine with it. look at my build and u can see it.
#4745
I was just about to ask about the same things
I have a 2000 'vert with a gillion miles, does it make any sense to drop in a stock (or reman-ed) 5.4? what kind of power would power could I see with a 4.6 intake, adaptors and FRPP shorty headers?
I had hoped to go a few more months and build something with a bit more compression and mild cams, but that doesn't look like it's gunna happen :-/
I have a 2000 'vert with a gillion miles, does it make any sense to drop in a stock (or reman-ed) 5.4? what kind of power would power could I see with a 4.6 intake, adaptors and FRPP shorty headers?
I had hoped to go a few more months and build something with a bit more compression and mild cams, but that doesn't look like it's gunna happen :-/
#4746
I think i speak correctly when i say, if you drop in a 5.4 SOHC in place of your 4.6, and it has some PI heads on it already, then you'll get "Gobs" more torque but not much difference in hp... it would just be a hell of a lot more fun to drive... I also quote again from either of the two wise men (illwill or R3d ... i dont remember which) (loosely quoting now) ~"for god sakes people, get the cobra brakes upgrade... for safety".
Last edited by ibanezsvo; 08-29-2008 at 04:38 PM.
#4747
You can absolutely do a no frills build... but once you start having fun with your 5.4... your gonna break stuff... xmission... rear axel bearings... eat up brake disks/pads like candy... cluches.. start off "no frills" but upgrade a piece at a time... for your baby's sake.
#4748
My 5.4 project has been done for a while... you can check out my site.
www.TorquedFords.com
search for 5.4
i also have tons of projects pics... and the latest dyno sheet.... i was kind of disappointed with the hp number the tq was spot on ....
www.TorquedFords.com
search for 5.4
i also have tons of projects pics... and the latest dyno sheet.... i was kind of disappointed with the hp number the tq was spot on ....
#4749
my first 5.4 was a 'no frills' build. i just dropped a nonPI 5.4 with adapter plates into the car. and it was a blast to drive with all the extra tq. the mag said 90ft lbas of tq and 14 rwhp over the 4.6 so if all you can do is a basic build, do it. just goto 13" brakes first then do more later on.
#4753
the HP numbers will come WAY up with longtubes but with shorty headers you're capped at just under 300 for some reason (probably dynamic head flow efficiency suffering with the shorty's). So far everyone that has done ported heads, cams and longtubes has made in the mid 300's (330-360rwhp/tq), while identical combos with shorty's have made 260-290rwhp and 320-390rwtq.
horspla: you'll need to cut a small notch in the underside supports of your hood but it won't penetrate the top skin so s'all good. Check out my site for some pics of the choppy choppy. Other than that, all you need is some 5/8" ID heater hose, random fittings (all that is for the heater to work), FRPP or JBA shorty headers, and a hammer.
horspla: you'll need to cut a small notch in the underside supports of your hood but it won't penetrate the top skin so s'all good. Check out my site for some pics of the choppy choppy. Other than that, all you need is some 5/8" ID heater hose, random fittings (all that is for the heater to work), FRPP or JBA shorty headers, and a hammer.
#4754
Well I got my old motor/tranny out. Few minor mishaps, but its all out. Still gotta pick up some hardware, but I think I'm gonna put the motor in by itself, with all the little brackets in place, the ones on the back of the drivers side head suck.
#4755
intakes....
Hey r3d do you have any dyno charts a 4.6 intake with adapter plates like the mach 1 intake??? looking to see some dyno charts on one...
i cant find any been looking for 2 days...
and if you know the specs of the car that would be nice as well... thanks again.
thanks..
i cant find any been looking for 2 days...
and if you know the specs of the car that would be nice as well... thanks again.
thanks..
#4757
for the street... you'll get more tq with the mach intake on adapter plates but the sullivan would return higher peak numbers. I'd go with the mach intake. It's basically a 01 cobra intake which was a helluva good unit.
I'll have to look around for dyno charts. I don't know of any that are accessible anymore.
I'll have to look around for dyno charts. I don't know of any that are accessible anymore.
#4763
Questions on 5.4 to S197 GT Swap
Hello, I am new to this site, any assistance or lthreads is appreciated. I have searched here and several sites, but have not been able to find much information. I have been in Iraq for a while and have not able to do a lot of research.
I have a 5.4L and tranny out of a 2007 Shelby GT 500 and would like to put it in a S197 (2005+) GT. Has anyone tried this yet? Other than different motor / tranny mounts and computer would it bolt right in? I am guessing (hoping) the GT and GT 500 are the same frame / chassis.
Thanks in advance for any help,
Jason
I have a 5.4L and tranny out of a 2007 Shelby GT 500 and would like to put it in a S197 (2005+) GT. Has anyone tried this yet? Other than different motor / tranny mounts and computer would it bolt right in? I am guessing (hoping) the GT and GT 500 are the same frame / chassis.
Thanks in advance for any help,
Jason
#4764
looking good
#4765
....exhaust
SO what is the problem when you are running long tubes like the stock ones?
I was thinking since it is 1 inch taller (the deck height)
What if you put a 1 inch spacer in the K member would that make the longtubes fit??
or is there some other things im missing?
I was thinking since it is 1 inch taller (the deck height)
What if you put a 1 inch spacer in the K member would that make the longtubes fit??
or is there some other things im missing?
#4766
the motor is one inch wider therefore you have one inch less room on each side. the frpp shorties are the only ones other then stock that bolt right up so i have found everything ele needs some form of modding to fit.
#4767
Hello, I am new to this site, any assistance or lthreads is appreciated. I have searched here and several sites, but have not been able to find much information. I have been in Iraq for a while and have not able to do a lot of research.
I have a 5.4L and tranny out of a 2007 Shelby GT 500 and would like to put it in a S197 (2005+) GT. Has anyone tried this yet? Other than different motor / tranny mounts and computer would it bolt right in? I am guessing (hoping) the GT and GT 500 are the same frame / chassis.
Thanks in advance for any help,
Jason
I have a 5.4L and tranny out of a 2007 Shelby GT 500 and would like to put it in a S197 (2005+) GT. Has anyone tried this yet? Other than different motor / tranny mounts and computer would it bolt right in? I am guessing (hoping) the GT and GT 500 are the same frame / chassis.
Thanks in advance for any help,
Jason
#4769
how bad is the interference on the JBA's. I was told those were a good fit.
snake, it's a bolt in for the most part. You're going to need a whole new fuel system to feed it though.
snake, it's a bolt in for the most part. You're going to need a whole new fuel system to feed it though.
#4770
By a "no frills" list I meant what you will need to do a swap. By that I mean, brackets, headers/manifolds, "trimming" the hood for clearance, injectors, MAF etc. No offense to anyone, but there are a lot of "off topic" posts on here. I got a little discouraged trying to fine relevant info. I am putting a 97 5.4 in my 2000 GT conv. I plan on putting on PI heads (hopefully a set of Patriots) Hopefully some cams and some headers. I plan on calling that good for now and getting it in there and running and see how that does. Also, why exactly won't long tubes from a 4.6 fit??