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Old 12-13-2008 | 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Stephen4036
your lucky to get 12 for your car. do it.
...you really are an idiot, aren't you?

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Forget the stealership. It appears they are just clueless and are naming parts. Do the work yourself. Plus, don't go to GM, Ford muscle is always superior.
I would love to do the work myself, but there are two problems with that. One being I don't have the money for parts, another being that I don't know how to fix it (reason why I'm going to Wyotech in next month)...hell, no one even knows for sure what is going on.
 
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Old 12-14-2008 | 09:54 PM
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Well, I have no idea how you have money for the stealership then.

As far as not knowing what to do, this is a Mustang forum right? You have people here who can guide you through. This is one of those problems that can be tricky to solve but you will never know the source of the problem until work is actually done to it. Sounds like the stealership just charged you for donuts and coffee for the tech guys.
 
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Old 12-14-2008 | 10:13 PM
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Yeah that's probably all they did.

...we're taking the car early tomorrow morning to the dealership I bought it from 20 miles away in 4'' of packed/icy snow. Hooray!
my dad said that he'll take care of the repair costs which is really cool of him because I've paid for everything myself so far. Hopefully this dealership can either fix my problem or swap out my ride for another they've got without raising my monthly payments. Both I think are highly unlikely.

Wish me luck guys and gals.
 
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Old 12-14-2008 | 10:19 PM
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Good luck.
 
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Old 12-15-2008 | 12:46 PM
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If anything put it on ebay, you'll get more cash there.
 
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Old 12-15-2008 | 01:50 PM
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I can't spend the time to private sell it because I leave for college three weeks from yesterday, and my parents don't want me swapping rides while I'm away. I'm just hoping this dealership actually fixes the problem this time around. I can't keep running in circles like this...I feel like a retarded nascar driver that doesn't know when to stop.
 
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Old 12-15-2008 | 07:14 PM
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Instead of the dealership, have you considered local shops instead? Most mechanics that work at local shops have been around the block a few times and have seen more than the recent grads dealerships employ.
 
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Old 12-15-2008 | 07:47 PM
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Funny story actually...we've got two shops in town. One ruined the electrical system on my moms old eclipse, while the other had a mechanic that "accidentally" drove into the side of my old Ford Bronco. The dealership may not be fixing my problems, but they sure as hell aren't making them any worse.
 
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Old 12-18-2008 | 09:12 PM
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Okay so I got a call from the stealership today...they couldn't re-create the problem (they couldn't get the car to shut off), so we're picking it up tomorrow and they didn't do anything.

Hooray! Another $100 down the drain!

...car still broken
 
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Old 12-19-2008 | 11:26 AM
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Here's another thing you can do. Get a good scanner that can record data and while driving, hit record and replicate the conditions that shut the car off. Go back to the stealership and show them the recorded results. If they are still clueless, don't ever go there again.
 
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Old 12-19-2008 | 02:43 PM
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They decided to replace to IAC instead of clean it this time. I thought the dealership in town replaced it but when this other dealership called they told them that they cleaned it those f'ing liars. If that doesn't work, I'll stick an f'ing christmas sign up all of their a$$es.
 
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Old 12-23-2008 | 10:02 PM
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Okay, so I got a call lastnight saying that the car was done and I could come pick it up in the morning. Unfortunately I'm out of town for the holidays, so I'll pick it up on Monday or early Tuesday morning. Hopefully this is FINALLY over, if not then don't be surprised if my car ends up in a ditch just so that I'm forced to get a new one...haha
 
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Old 12-23-2008 | 10:21 PM
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good luck with that man. hopefully they fixed it.
 
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Old 12-30-2008 | 12:26 AM
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Picked up the car today (or yesterday I guess), and it's a ton better. I tried and tried to get it to stall and act up and so far nothing. So I'm very pleased. They ended up fully replacing the IAC this time around instead of telling me they replaced it like the other dealership. So all is good for now. I wouldn't go to the extreme of saying this whole deal is over yet, because I don't want to jinx it, but I'm very confident that it's almost there if not there already.
 
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Old 12-30-2008 | 11:48 AM
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good to hear that....having the steering wheel lock up on ya can make you kinda crap your pants.
 
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Old 12-30-2008 | 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Leonide
good to hear that....having the steering wheel lock up on ya can make you kinda crap your pants.
the hood flying up will also make you crap your pants.. i know from experience.
 
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Old 12-30-2008 | 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Stephen4036
the hood flying up will also make you crap your pants.. i know from experience.
That's because you fail.

Anyway, that f***ing problem happened again...All of this work, all of this money and it happened again! This time I don't have the money to squeeze out into it, and I can't trade it in with the crappy economy because I'd be stuck with a butt load of negative equity. So I'm sticking to it, going to do that DDX512 install tomorrow morning if I've got the time.
 
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Old 12-30-2008 | 09:26 PM
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Maybe it's time for a 2v swap
 
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Old 12-31-2008 | 10:55 AM
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As mentioned, do the work yourself. You already have people telling you the pump may be going so replace the pump. Don't worry if you are clueless how to do it, people will tell you the steps and help you out. If you are scared to tear into your car now before school, no offense but school is not going to be easy for you then. You have to realize that either you are going to be dropping cash at dealerships who are clueless at the problem or you can save cash, and do the work yourself for something most people here feel is the problem. Your choice.
 
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Old 12-31-2008 | 11:48 AM
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I agree with bassman97 and the others. I think it could be something in the fuel delivery. The steering wheel lock up - I am not sure of because as long as you don't turn the key off it shouldn't lock up, you would just loose your power steering. As for the part of taking it out of gear or when you press the clutch it takes the load off of the motor - which if there is a fuel delivery issue - it is sensing that there is a decrease in the load which make the motor de-fuel or cut fuel delievery (idle down).

One question you said you stay at a constant speed does your car have cruise control and if so do you use it?

Because there is something else I do remember my friend had in his Mustang that is really similar to yours - minus the steering issue - His would die out or die totally and he took it to the dealer as well as a number of shops and still didn't have a solution.

So out of frustration he ended up taking it to a local guy who worked on race cars. The guy went through the entire car and found that because of the cruise control the part of the ecu that controls the fuels delivery was not functioning as it should - don't remember the exact term or fix. The way the guy explained it was the car could not self adjust to de-fueling after the car had run at a fixed speed for a giving length of time.

My friend then ask well how did you know and not the shops. The guy had put the car on a dyno and set the cruise control. He said after about 25 min - he shut the cruise control off by stepping on the clutch and the car lugged and died. He said that the cruise control was trying to either stay on or come back on - I don't remember. He said it happens when cruise controls go bad or are going out. '

This might not be close. But it is worth a shot to try and take a look at. My old blazer also had the same problem it was an automatic but when I would disengauge it the truck would die after it had been running for awhile.
 
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Old 01-02-2009 | 08:03 AM
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Have you had your battery terminals and wires checked, too?
 
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Old 01-02-2009 | 09:23 AM
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Yup, and no luck.
 
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Old 09-24-2009 | 03:35 PM
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Thought I'd dig this one back from the grave, was the issue ever resolved or is the Mach still stalling?
 
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Old 09-24-2009 | 03:54 PM
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ZOMBIE THREAD FTL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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Old 09-24-2009 | 03:58 PM
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i think he got it fixed.
 
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Old 09-24-2009 | 08:02 PM
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Fixed. New IAC valve...had excessive carbon buildup.
 
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Old 09-25-2009 | 06:11 AM
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I am still not feeling a sense of closure here? In post #74 the IAC was replaced with a new one and in post #77 it stalled again. Did the battery need unhooked to reset everything or what?

Either way, glad to hear it's fixed. That really sucks trying to chase something like that.
 
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Old 09-25-2009 | 09:07 AM
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No, just an idiot driver. The way I was taught to drive manual transmissions was to put the shifter in neutral when you're slowing down...and well, that attributed greatly to the issue I was having. So I got the IAC replaced and changed my driving style and no more problems..
 
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Old 09-25-2009 | 09:49 AM
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Half the fun of having manual, is being able to downshift to slow down and row the gears for fun
 
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