I understand the cam situation, but as much as performance, i want the lopey idle.

 

it is a bunch of dudes kickin it... we just don't wear pointy hats made out of bedsheets so the whole bigotry thing doesn't fly.

Take the VT cam. It'll give you what you want.

 

+1 and thanks red.

 

so VT stage 2 cams and patriot stage 2 heads should be a good match up??

 

YES, the cams and heads are a good match up, buy them and install them. Make sure you tune the car after the installation, buy all new gaskets, and upgrade your springs for the cams.

 

The heads come fully assembeled with springs in them already. intake should be good stock, with exception of acuufab 75mm plenum and throttle body?? Ive heard PI intakes flow really good stock, just change the TB?

 

the springs in the heads only support a .550 lift. The lift of the stage 2 cams are .560 up to .576 exhaust lift. At least thats what my cam was ground out to. upgrade the springs to manley

 

It's offensive because it is and because someone was. You see how that works. There's nothing positive in using it ever. I'm not debating it with you, I'm telling you how it already is here and how you can avoid being negatively affected by your choice of verbiage.

70mm tb should be fine, any more is overkill. PI intake is a really good intake for the power band. If you're planning to get any more radical then a bullit or aftermarket intake is always a nice to have. I like the HPS intake for what it's done to cars with too much cam. Really helps bring the bottom end back and delivers on the top end too.

 

Really, so the springs in stage 2 heads wont support stage 2 cams? Too muvh lift in stage 2 cams for the valveS? I thought all stage 2 stuff was designed to be compatible together.??

 

you're mixing the term stage-2 with the function of proper part selection. Companies put things in stages so those that don't learn enough about what they're going to buy will buy things at least close to the average need.

.550 lift springs and VT stage 2 cams are not a good match. .580 lift springs and vt stage 2 cams are a good match.. .600 springs are even better but sometimes require spring seats to be machined.

 

so if I go with the patriot stage 2 heads, just get the spring upgrade??

 

are you not reading what we are telling you?