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Old 10-10-2006, 05:49 PM
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do longtube headers (specifically SLP) give you enough power where it's worth the $750 for the part itself and $500 for an install? i know horsepowers costs alot of money but damn i could get a tune n gears for that much.
 
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Old 10-10-2006, 06:01 PM
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Hookers are $660 for headers and x-pipe. If you plan to do any other mods in the future, then yes, they are worth the price (especially if you plan to supercharge).
 
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Old 10-10-2006, 06:06 PM
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I would go with the tune and gears before LTs. And yes if you go FI they are very good for that.
 
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Old 10-10-2006, 07:09 PM
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for the money they are one of the last mods i would do.
 
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Old 10-10-2006, 07:40 PM
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Do them last.
 
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Old 10-10-2006, 07:51 PM
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or you can get teh MAC HTS coated for $340
 
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alright thanks guys...i think im gona go with suspension n drag radials before my gears n tune tho, im already spinning wen i hit 1st hard i cant imagine what gears n tune are gona do to me
 
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Old 10-10-2006, 08:18 PM
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I would do the tune and gears first. I have shorties on my automatic and only did them at the time of the rebuild on my motor. Otherwise, I would have waited to do them a little longer. Go for the gears and tune...
 
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Old 10-10-2006, 08:24 PM
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Id do headers before tune. Makes no sence to do them after and get the car retuned later. Who knows how much power youll be cheating yourself out of. Just makes all that money you just spent on headers even more pointless.

HOWEVER, you can get an XCal2 or SCT chip with a mail order tune (free) for the gears, then get a real dyno tune after you install the headers.

You dont need to spend so much money on headers. You can get Mac HTS coated headers for $340, or the Cremic coated ones for a little more and they work just fine. Then a Mac o/r H pipe for $170. Then do the install yourself or find someone to help.
 
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Originally Posted by 03gtmustang
Id do headers before tune. Makes no sence to do them after and get the car retuned later. Who knows how much power youll be cheating yourself out of. Just makes all that money you just spent on headers even more pointless.

HOWEVER, you can get an XCal2 or SCT chip with a mail order tune (free) for the gears, then get a real dyno tune after you install the headers.

You dont need to spend so much money on headers. You can get Mac HTS coated headers for $340, or the Cremic coated ones for a little more and they work just fine. Then a Mac o/r H pipe for $170. Then do the install yourself or find someone to help.
thats what i was planning...then i come to find SLP X pipe only fits with SLP headers iwthout welding...and i dont want any welding
 
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Old 10-10-2006, 09:15 PM
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I still have stock headers on my car. I am planning on doing the swap when I do cams that way I get a retune and cover both bases.
 
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I see you already have the Accufab TB & Plenum; I have been told that you see a minor difference with that setup. However once you get long tubes with the Accufab (or really any TB & Plenum setup) is when it really wakes up.

I know that a local shop here sells the bbk LT's with bbk X-pipe and install for $800.

My understanding is most Stang shops hate doing the install.
 
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Originally Posted by 4wilds
I see you already have the Accufab TB & Plenum; I have been told that you see a minor difference with that setup. However once you get long tubes with the Accufab (or really any TB & Plenum setup) is when it really wakes up.

I know that a local shop here sells the bbk LT's with bbk X-pipe and install for $800.

My understanding is most Stang shops hate doing the install.
i felt a good difference once i got my tb n plenum in.
 
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Old 10-11-2006, 09:28 AM
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My understanding is most Stang shops hate doing the install.
****, bring your car to me and Ill do it. I dont have a problem doing them.
 
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03gt...you're the ginchiest. Is that cool or what.
 
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Originally Posted by r3dn3ck
03gt...you're the ginchiest. Is that cool or what.
What? What is ginchiest?
 
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Ive got a question for you guys with mac LT's, yall have any trouble with them?
My buddy told me that you will have blowing header gaskets. I have a set of
used mac LT's. any suggestions???
 
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No problems with mine. Had em on for about 1 year.
 
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the only way that u can get blown header gaskets is if u reuse the stock ones....if u get brand new ones than they should last longer than you....haha
 
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Old 10-11-2006, 05:11 PM
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OK, i didnt read this whole thread, but here's my first hand in put...

I have full SLP exhaust and got SLP LT's and SLP catted X installed at the same time.

This is my only major mods beside a CAI and a custom tune.

With that said, LT's should be more on the list for exhaust/sound/tone preferance than power (unless you're forced inducted)

I spent 900 dollars for the LT's and catted X brand new and 500 for both installed together.

If I had to do it again, I would prolly just of gotted a catted X, 4.10's gears, DR's and still my tune. Then again, it would be really hard to tell for I LOVE my exhaust sound/note and get multiple complements every day.

For your reference... from my factory tune with my exhaust set up to a few tweaks running on 93 with a custom tune, I only gained 5RWHP.
 
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Originally Posted by whitethunder46
OK, i didnt read this whole thread, but here's my first hand in put...

I have full SLP exhaust and got SLP LT's and SLP catted X installed at the same time.

This is my only major mods beside a CAI and a custom tune.

With that said, LT's should be more on the list for exhaust/sound/tone preferance than power (unless you're forced inducted)

I spent 900 dollars for the LT's and catted X brand new and 500 for both installed together.

If I had to do it again, I would prolly just of gotted a catted X, 4.10's gears, DR's and still my tune. Then again, it would be really hard to tell for I LOVE my exhaust sound/note and get multiple complements every day.

For your reference... from my factory tune with my exhaust set up to a few tweaks running on 93 with a custom tune, I only gained 5RWHP.
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Old 10-17-2006, 10:38 AM
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i got another question for you guys. i have mac LTs and i was wondering if i had to go with macs mid pipes or if i could go with another brands
x-pipe. i would rather have an x instead of an h pipe.
 
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Old 10-17-2006, 11:51 AM
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It depends on the end of the LT's. I know with SLP you have to have SLP mid pipe
 
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Old 10-17-2006, 04:48 PM
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i found a guy that has slp lm's on his car and hates it. he said that it has less
a few miles on the exhaust. he also has an o/r x-pipe, its a bbk brand. he told
me that he would take $650 for the whole thing. could i just get the cat back
and bolt it on to the exhaust i already have. the mid pipe is stock but i had
an x welded in place of the h. he said he would take 450 for the cat back.
is this reasonable and would you put that exhaust on your car? i appriciate the
help i have been getting from you guys. im pretty new to the stang scene.
 
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Old 10-17-2006, 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by yellow99
i found a guy that has slp lm's on his car and hates it. he said that it has less
a few miles on the exhaust. he also has an o/r x-pipe, its a bbk brand. he told
me that he would take $650 for the whole thing. could i just get the cat back
and bolt it on to the exhaust i already have. the mid pipe is stock but i had
an x welded in place of the h. he said he would take 450 for the cat back.
is this reasonable and would you put that exhaust on your car? i appriciate the
help i have been getting from you guys. im pretty new to the stang scene.
first of all...how is ur midpipe stock if u have an x pipe welded....

as for the exhaust offer him 400..i paid 350 for my LM1 cat back...i also dont like how it sounds and i have a catted xpipe...id go w/ loudmouth 2's, magnapacks or stingers
 
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Old 10-17-2006, 05:19 PM
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I paid $350 or something like that for my BBK Ceramic Coated L/T's with a VRS X Pipe (used) and installed them myself...FREE.

WORTH IT!
 
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