View Poll Results: What are your 5.4L swap plans?
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#3841
03-17-2008, 12:05 PM
I got a k member from PA racing a few months ago and the motor mount plates were wrong they didnt have the place for the "nipple" on the motor mounts
#3842
03-17-2008, 12:47 PM
had a similar problem with PA racing, they put 5.0 mounts on mine and i had to send it back for them to redo.
#3843
03-17-2008, 03:06 PM
Schedule is any day now. Bob's working hard to get them all ready. Unfortunately he has to finish the whole first batch cuz we're all waiting cash in hand.
are there any left of the first batch?
Runners are reportedly just about 9-11" depending on how you measure. They're a lot like the runners in my intake but they enter into a bigger box and have better entrances. You can use one of the setups I've been working on for the HPS intakes. twin 90deg cone discharge foggers, one front and one back through the wall of the lower plenum pointed upward, one for each bank of cylinders. Above 3K rpm there's about zero chance of puddling any fuel.
Or if you're going to keep the shots pretty big (minimum 150, 175-200 ideal) you can do the spray bar setup on the bottom cover. Best part of that one is it's totally invisible. It'll require a little fab work and more lines but it's wicked. I had trouble finding the spray bars. Ended up tearing apart 2 big block plate kits for the prototype. Prototyping also exposed the requirement for fairly large shots. You fasten each F/N bar pair to the bottom cover aimed at the runner inlets, one front and one back running parallel to the long axis of the engine. Toss in the right jets for your shot and go nuts. I saw spattering of the fuel charge (simulated with water) in testing on the vacuum jig with less than 75hp jets front and back and 100hp jets seemed to be ideal. But, that isn't any good for the 4.6's since most cap their hits on those at 125-150, so I didn't submit it to HPS for production. I'd be happy to help you work it out if you want.
are there any left of the first batch?
Runners are reportedly just about 9-11" depending on how you measure. They're a lot like the runners in my intake but they enter into a bigger box and have better entrances. You can use one of the setups I've been working on for the HPS intakes. twin 90deg cone discharge foggers, one front and one back through the wall of the lower plenum pointed upward, one for each bank of cylinders. Above 3K rpm there's about zero chance of puddling any fuel.
Or if you're going to keep the shots pretty big (minimum 150, 175-200 ideal) you can do the spray bar setup on the bottom cover. Best part of that one is it's totally invisible. It'll require a little fab work and more lines but it's wicked. I had trouble finding the spray bars. Ended up tearing apart 2 big block plate kits for the prototype. Prototyping also exposed the requirement for fairly large shots. You fasten each F/N bar pair to the bottom cover aimed at the runner inlets, one front and one back running parallel to the long axis of the engine. Toss in the right jets for your shot and go nuts. I saw spattering of the fuel charge (simulated with water) in testing on the vacuum jig with less than 75hp jets front and back and 100hp jets seemed to be ideal. But, that isn't any good for the 4.6's since most cap their hits on those at 125-150, so I didn't submit it to HPS for production. I'd be happy to help you work it out if you want.
#3844
03-17-2008, 05:38 PM
I just pot it together
and I am going to make a spot for it myself
My factory K member was bent from a slight run in with a curb so It was all I could do to keep my only car on the road ..
#3846
03-18-2008, 05:46 AM
Well, the teardown has begun... Good thing too because a couple of the bearings had some appreciable wear on them. I just placed my order for main & rod bearings and piston rings. While I wait for them to come in, I will take the block to get degreased and give it a coat of paint.
Pics of the teardown:
Pics of the teardown:
#3847
03-18-2008, 10:23 AM
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Magrathea/California
Posts: 9,865
You can use the twin fogger setup just the same way but it requires indexing the nozzle and drilling and tapping the cover at a pretty specific angle (~10deg below the horizontal) which is fun but not impossible. Be careful with the fogger setup not to stress the threads too much on the nozzle... the bottom cover wall is kinda thin. You can move the foggers up to the main wall but I liked the idea of a removable kit based on bottom cover swapping.
Well, the teardown has begun... Good thing too because a couple of the bearings had some appreciable wear on them. I just placed my order for main & rod bearings and piston rings. While I wait for them to come in, I will take the block to get degreased and give it a coat of paint.
#3848
03-18-2008, 10:52 AM
no, no, i meant that cheesebandit said his was a dd. i meant that mine hasn't been a dd since the motor went south 2yrs ago.
i've been super busy tring to ptomote my powdercoating shop so i haven't had the time to work on mine like i want. right now i have to check the clutch, she is clicking alittle mor then normal. i'm just about ready to get the hood and bumper painted so i can drive it to the dyno
i've been super busy tring to ptomote my powdercoating shop so i haven't had the time to work on mine like i want. right now i have to check the clutch, she is clicking alittle mor then normal. i'm just about ready to get the hood and bumper painted so i can drive it to the dyno
#3849
03-18-2008, 11:34 AM
yep I am trying to get my motorcycle back together so i can have the car down for about a week so i can do the swap I have a motor that needs a lil work Prolly a new crank and berrings. and I found a guy to do the modification to the headder and a Powder coater to re ceramic coat the header ... and I need to get misc. parts for the head swap and i need to order the intake adapters .. I think that pretty much it .. now just have to find time for it all
#3851
03-18-2008, 08:41 PM
im not much of a fab. person so ill tell u guys what.........if someone was to make that bracket work for me i would pay for the things that need to be bought
ex. the aluminum and the aluminum stand-offs, etc.
i would of course give some extra money for the time taken to make this piece...... as long as the price is reasonable i would let you choose how much.
and of course i would pay to get it shipped.
if anyone would want to do this give a shout.
ex. the aluminum and the aluminum stand-offs, etc.
i would of course give some extra money for the time taken to make this piece...... as long as the price is reasonable i would let you choose how much.
and of course i would pay to get it shipped.
if anyone would want to do this give a shout.
#3852
03-19-2008, 05:26 AM
im not much of a fab. person so ill tell u guys what.........if someone was to make that bracket work for me i would pay for the things that need to be bought
ex. the aluminum and the aluminum stand-offs, etc.
i would of course give some extra money for the time taken to make this piece...... as long as the price is reasonable i would let you choose how much.
and of course i would pay to get it shipped.
if anyone would want to do this give a shout.
ex. the aluminum and the aluminum stand-offs, etc.
i would of course give some extra money for the time taken to make this piece...... as long as the price is reasonable i would let you choose how much.
and of course i would pay to get it shipped.
if anyone would want to do this give a shout.
Last edited by JScottGT; 03-19-2008 at 05:31 AM.
#3854
03-19-2008, 08:28 AM
sorry about that guys. i was wanting someone to make the procharger p-isc bracket thats for a 99-04 mustang to be able to work on my 5.4 when it gets put in.
correct me if i am wrong but the truck blower kits have the blower and all going on the drivers side.....and as we all know on the mustang it goes on the passenger side.
so long story short i need it to work on the passenger side with the 5.4 swap.
correct me if i am wrong but the truck blower kits have the blower and all going on the drivers side.....and as we all know on the mustang it goes on the passenger side.
so long story short i need it to work on the passenger side with the 5.4 swap.
#3856
03-19-2008, 09:12 AM
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Magrathea/California
Posts: 9,865
bTW... Guys that have OAS kits coming from me... don't think I've forgotten you. I just got some new tools a week ago and I'm making special presents for you that go with the kit. How great am I.
#3857
03-19-2008, 09:19 AM
sorry about that guys. i was wanting someone to make the procharger p-isc bracket thats for a 99-04 mustang to be able to work on my 5.4 when it gets put in.
correct me if i am wrong but the truck blower kits have the blower and all going on the drivers side.....and as we all know on the mustang it goes on the passenger side.
so long story short i need it to work on the passenger side with the 5.4 swap.
correct me if i am wrong but the truck blower kits have the blower and all going on the drivers side.....and as we all know on the mustang it goes on the passenger side.
so long story short i need it to work on the passenger side with the 5.4 swap.
Your other option is to take the existing bracket with the front cover and s/c to a machine shop and explain what you are trying to accomplish. They may be able to modify your existing bracket to work on the 5.4 cover.
#3859
03-19-2008, 09:10 PM
If you had a way to get me the blower, stock bracket and timing cover, I could easily make whatever you needed to make it fit. However, me being a stranger over the net I know thats not gonna happen and I dont blame you.
jscott, did the plates show up yet? Dude never PM me back with the tracking number, and I fig they will be there before my shipping company can give me a copy of the tracking number.
BTW, im slither on corral
jscott, did the plates show up yet? Dude never PM me back with the tracking number, and I fig they will be there before my shipping company can give me a copy of the tracking number.
BTW, im slither on corral
#3860
03-19-2008, 10:33 PM
i may have a guy close to home that i know well. next time i see him ill see what he can do.
i know this sounds stupid but it would be cool to see a twin supercharged 5.4. custom blower bracket for one centri. on the passenger side and the regular drivers side 5.4 blower bracket to have another centri.
if i saw that my face would go
for like a year.
i know this sounds stupid but it would be cool to see a twin supercharged 5.4. custom blower bracket for one centri. on the passenger side and the regular drivers side 5.4 blower bracket to have another centri.
if i saw that my face would go
for like a year.
#3861
03-20-2008, 06:17 AM
If you had a way to get me the blower, stock bracket and timing cover, I could easily make whatever you needed to make it fit. However, me being a stranger over the net I know thats not gonna happen and I dont blame you.
jscott, did the plates show up yet? Dude never PM me back with the tracking number, and I fig they will be there before my shipping company can give me a copy of the tracking number.
BTW, im slither on corral
jscott, did the plates show up yet? Dude never PM me back with the tracking number, and I fig they will be there before my shipping company can give me a copy of the tracking number.
BTW, im slither on corral
I was also hoping to receive all my bearings and piston rings by the weekend so I could start the rebuild. I should have all the bearings by today, but the rings wont be here until Monday... so the rebuild will have to wait until next week.
In the meantime I will start to yank the 4.6 out and have it ready to swap over the heads.
#3862
03-20-2008, 07:06 AM
Well count me as one plan on putting the vortech from the 4.6 on the 5.4 and was wondering about the mounting myself but just building the short block now and will worry more about that later
#3864
03-20-2008, 07:36 AM
i may have a guy close to home that i know well. next time i see him ill see what he can do.
i know this sounds stupid but it would be cool to see a twin supercharged 5.4. custom blower bracket for one centri. on the passenger side and the regular drivers side 5.4 blower bracket to have another centri.
if i saw that my face would go for like a year.
i know this sounds stupid but it would be cool to see a twin supercharged 5.4. custom blower bracket for one centri. on the passenger side and the regular drivers side 5.4 blower bracket to have another centri.
if i saw that my face would go
for like a year.
#3865
03-20-2008, 08:02 AM
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Magrathea/California
Posts: 9,865
i may have a guy close to home that i know well. next time i see him ill see what he can do.
i know this sounds stupid but it would be cool to see a twin supercharged 5.4. custom blower bracket for one centri. on the passenger side and the regular drivers side 5.4 blower bracket to have another centri.
if i saw that my face would go for like a year.
i know this sounds stupid but it would be cool to see a twin supercharged 5.4. custom blower bracket for one centri. on the passenger side and the regular drivers side 5.4 blower bracket to have another centri.
if i saw that my face would go
for like a year.If you had a way to get me the blower, stock bracket and timing cover, I could easily make whatever you needed to make it fit. However, me being a stranger over the net I know thats not gonna happen and I dont blame you.
jscott, did the plates show up yet? Dude never PM me back with the tracking number, and I fig they will be there before my shipping company can give me a copy of the tracking number.
BTW, im slither on corral
jscott, did the plates show up yet? Dude never PM me back with the tracking number, and I fig they will be there before my shipping company can give me a copy of the tracking number.
BTW, im slither on corral
#3867
03-20-2008, 09:17 AM
sorry about that guys. i was wanting someone to make the procharger p-isc bracket thats for a 99-04 mustang to be able to work on my 5.4 when it gets put in.
correct me if i am wrong but the truck blower kits have the blower and all going on the drivers side.....and as we all know on the mustang it goes on the passenger side.
so long story short i need it to work on the passenger side with the 5.4 swap.
correct me if i am wrong but the truck blower kits have the blower and all going on the drivers side.....and as we all know on the mustang it goes on the passenger side.
so long story short i need it to work on the passenger side with the 5.4 swap.
I own a machine shop! I also have a CAD/CAM program that works great with my CNC's.
I also have a few 2V covers and one 4V cover. The 2V covers are pre-'00 and '00-up not sure if their is any diffrences. I really haven't looked at them close. I'm more then less stating that the covers I have are NPI and PI. You could send the bracket to me and I could work out the details and then document what is needed for others out there doing the same.
FREE OF CHARGE!
#3868
03-20-2008, 05:48 PM
jscott, just keep me updated. I too cant imagine it would take long at all to get there
#3869
03-20-2008, 09:25 PM
i live in picayune mississippi.
hmmm free is a price i just cant pass up haha. i just may do that if u really mean it.
and yes when it comes to the twin blowers eye popping is just the begining. just hearing it would be awesome. imagine lopey cams with 2 magical blowers whistleing........music to my ears.
hmmm free is a price i just cant pass up haha. i just may do that if u really mean it.
and yes when it comes to the twin blowers eye popping is just the begining. just hearing it would be awesome. imagine lopey cams with 2 magical blowers whistleing........music to my ears.
#3870
03-21-2008, 08:00 AM
do you think a 1" thick piece would be way too much for a bracket? i have a 15 x 15 piece i was going to use to make y blocks but could use it for a bracket for the blower.