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Old 03-03-2008, 10:00 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Question x-pipe or h-pipe

ok so i am looking to get a off-road x-pipe or an off-road h-pipe for my 2000 GT. does anybody know what the difference is (besides the shape)???? advantages to getting one over the other????
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Old 03-03-2008, 10:24 AM   #2 (permalink)
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slight difference in sound. x pipe is more high pitched and a little raspy, while an h pipe is more of a deep muscle car sound. x pipe is supposed to produce more horespower, while an h pipe more torque, but the difference is minimal. 1-2 rwhp and torque difference. Just get whichever one you want and like the sound of.
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Old 03-03-2008, 10:26 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Id get whichever would be cheaper
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Old 03-03-2008, 11:33 AM   #4 (permalink)
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It all pretty much comes down to personal preference. Things are going to sound different depending on exhaust you have and so on. Listen to some clips or videos and make a decision based on what you hear. I have a few videos in my sig of of my cars exhaust. I have flows, o/r x-pipe, and LT headers.
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Old 03-03-2008, 01:40 PM   #5 (permalink)
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ok cool. thanks for that. wat would a shop usually charge for the item and to install? i checked with my local shop and they said for x-pipe without cats $900 and x-pipe with cats $500. is this about right?
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Old 03-03-2008, 02:00 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I'm assuming that's to custom fab one up? If I were you, I'd buy an aftermarket one since it's a lot cheaper, even w/ install. For example, a $200 for a cat-less mid-pipe, $150 for cats, and $200 to install cats is $550. Mid-pipe w/ cats already on are around $400 so you can see the price reduction here.
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Old 03-03-2008, 02:29 PM   #7 (permalink)
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you can get a Mac o/r h pipe for under $200, and a catted one for under $400. If you go used you can get them even cheaper. Installation of just the midpipe should be around $75 - $100.
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I went to a performance shop and they charged me $100 cash to install.
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Old 03-04-2008, 08:32 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I dont know how mechanically inclined you are, buts its not a hard install and its not hard to do. I would recommend to most people to give it a shot to install it. Its pretty straight forward and you will save that cash.
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Old 03-04-2008, 08:45 PM   #10 (permalink)
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I dont know how mechanically inclined you are, buts its not a hard install and its not hard to do. I would recommend to most people to give it a shot to install it. Its pretty straight forward and you will save that cash.

yup. definitely an easy task.
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Old 03-04-2008, 09:11 PM   #11 (permalink)
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worse comes to worse, atleast take your stocks off and request a discount for some work being done already...and like they said no not hard at all
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Old 03-04-2008, 10:02 PM   #12 (permalink)
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What does all of this mean in my case? I have straight pipes from the headers to the tips. Is it just a change of sound then?
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Old 03-05-2008, 06:34 AM   #13 (permalink)
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You dont need a cross over pipe on v6s as there even firing so this doesnt apply to the 3.8 cars.
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Old 03-05-2008, 07:38 AM   #14 (permalink)
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I'm surprised anyone can even get a quote for off-road pipes. If you get caught, the shop that did the work can also be held liable and fined. No one around here will install a catless mid-pipe.
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Old 03-06-2008, 04:57 PM   #15 (permalink)
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most places will allow you to get them installed as long as you sign a waiver.

btw....i got my o/r mac h pipe for $70 barely used.
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