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Old Jan 2, 2009 | 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Rumblin_6
Oh, when you gut the mass air you take the s***** filter screen. I had people say that it screws things up but I have not had a problem and have done this on every vehicle I have ever had. I had a guy one time say that it screws up the internal metering and does equate the air out equally which cause both a rich and a lean out condition depending on rpm and such. So I called C&L, SCT and both guys said that the screens only purpose is to filter out potential harmful deposits that get past the stock intake and filter system and that the other guy is full of crap. If you have a decent filter it doesn't matter.

It will actually help the idle - to take the screen out. The only thing that they did say was to make 100% sure that you get the inlet temp senor and the mass air positioned right. See attachement pic below.The inlet temp senor should be be positioned where when you hold the tube up you can see through the horseshoe part (I circled it in Red). As for the Mass air the electrical connection should be dead center on the top (Looking Down).

i didnt have one of those temperature sensors at all in mine...i just plugged up the whole in the tube. i looked around in the engine bay for like 10 minutes and the only thing i had was the maf sensor. is there some type of difference between year models?
 
Old Jan 2, 2009 | 09:00 AM
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Yeah, depending on the year there was small differences such as in the type of senor.

Don't quote me on this because it has been awhile and I don't remember. (I am going to look it up myself just out of curiousity). But I know that the 96-04 cars had them.

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I just looked I knew that the 96-04 cars have the same senor, the 94-95 cars have a different senor. You should have one on your car. There should be a pigtail (a small harness with a connector) that plugs into a sensor. Are you sure you don't have one? You should have a connection to the mass air and then there should be a second that goes into a sensor that should be connected into the manifold about 4-5" approx. from the throttle body.

Depending on the brand of the replacement it should look like this.
 

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Old Jan 2, 2009 | 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Rumblin_6
Yeah, depending on the year there was small differences such as in the type of senor.

Don't quote me on this because it has been awhile and I don't remember. (I am going to look it up myself just out of curiousity). But I know that the 96-04 cars had them.

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I just looked I knew that the 96-04 cars have the same senor, the 94-95 cars have a different senor. You should have one on your car. There should be a pigtail (a small harness with a connector) that plugs into a sensor. Are you sure you don't have one? You should have a connection to the mass air and then there should be a second that goes into a sensor that should be connected into the manifold about 4-5" approx. from the throttle body.

Depending on the brand of the replacement it should look like this.
i cant see the picture lol but i know what you're talking about, it was on the video online here and i looked for it for a while. the only wiring i have that was connected to the original intake is for the mass air. there wasnt even a hole in the stock intake hose for the other sensor.
 
Old Jan 2, 2009 | 09:49 PM
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ah darn, I was kinda hopin we would keep the pharmacy guy around.... =P
 
Old Jan 2, 2009 | 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by ihop1411
i didnt have one of those temperature sensors at all in mine...i just plugged up the whole in the tube. i looked around in the engine bay for like 10 minutes and the only thing i had was the maf sensor. is there some type of difference between year models?
Mine is the exact same way, and it worked out fine.
 
Old Jan 2, 2009 | 10:27 PM
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Mine is the exact same way, and it worked out fine.
yeah mine has been running fine as well...what did you plug the hole with man?
 
Old Jan 3, 2009 | 12:52 AM
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02 here,, no temp sensor
 
Old Jan 3, 2009 | 09:00 AM
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That is kind of weird 2002's and 2004's don't have the sensor and 03's do that is odd.
 
Old Jan 3, 2009 | 01:09 PM
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yea i was like wtf. But hey less things to worry about!
 
Old Jan 3, 2009 | 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by ihop1411
yeah mine has been running fine as well...what did you plug the hole with man?
My dad found a perfect sized bolt to stick in it. It was just wide enough to make a tight fit, and just long enough to where it filled in the whole rubber part but didn't block any air flow. What did you use?
 
Old Jan 4, 2009 | 03:46 AM
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99+ cars do not have a separate intake air temp sensor. This is because its built into the maf as one unit.
 
Old Jan 4, 2009 | 08:15 AM
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Score one for Dustin. I just went out and looked at my car and it doesn't have one either. Like I said I did not do the install. The last mustang I worked on had one so I assumed wrong in thinking that mine had it too.


Dustin are you sure about the 99 + cars in the video I posted above of the guy installing the AM intake he is re-attaching one and there is a pic on a parts website I was just looking at (don't know what the year is exactly other than it is a 99+ and it too has one.

I am just curious as can be now myself because why did Ford change that.
 
Old Jan 4, 2009 | 01:27 PM
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He's right, it's built in. I had to plug up a hole in my intake because I don't have one. I think he 01's have it, but none others do. It's only one year that have a separate one
 
Old Jan 4, 2009 | 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by JDank
My dad found a perfect sized bolt to stick in it. It was just wide enough to make a tight fit, and just long enough to where it filled in the whole rubber part but didn't block any air flow. What did you use?
lol i did the exact same thing...nice man
 
Old Jan 4, 2009 | 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by ihop1411
lol i did the exact same thing...nice man
haha, good work.
 
Old Jan 4, 2009 | 07:49 PM
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ya mine dont have one either i stuck a valve stem in it to plug it up lol

it fit perfectly
 
Old Jan 4, 2009 | 08:55 PM
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hey dude,, justa quickie, do the 3.9's have any major differences in power or sound or anything from the 3.8?
 
Old Jan 4, 2009 | 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Rumblin_6
Dustin are you sure about the 99 + cars in the video I posted above of the guy installing the AM intake he is re-attaching one and there is a pic on a parts website I was just looking at (don't know what the year is exactly other than it is a 99+ and it too has one.

I am just curious as can be now myself because why did Ford change that.
99-00 had the air temperature sensor. 01+ don't so you need to plug the hole
 
Old Jan 5, 2009 | 07:45 AM
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well 4.6 cars its 99+ I guess in the 3.8 its 01+.
 
Old Jan 5, 2009 | 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by krenogin
hey dude,, justa quickie, do the 3.9's have any major differences in power or sound or anything from the 3.8?
no difference i got 3 more hp
 
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