Wynjammer Supercharger
#1
Wynjammer Supercharger
I bought a blower for my 00 Mustang GT 5-speed last week. It should be coming in Monday. Its a supercharger from Wynjammer Superchargers (wynjammer.com). They usually make kits for chevys mainly S-10s. the guy that made this kit for me is supposedly the originator if the Paxton head unit. Anyways after many conversations with the maker of the kit i was told by him and a customer that i didnt need a intercooler with the supercharger. for one it doesnt use oil and also uses OEM looking black plastic for piping. (those were just two things i was told, there probably are more reasons that are more important as to why a intercooler isnt needed or offered but i guess it didnt matter). I am being sent a 6 lb pulley to run for now until i forge the motor or upgrade my fuel system. He said 6 lb because the supercharger he sent me is just about the equivalent of a D-1SC so i should just use 6 lbs. What do yall think about all this?
Also i am not really that new to the mustang scene but i have always been N/A and i have always dreamed of getting a blower. Ive looked at a bunch of forums in the past and present about what is needed after putting on a blower. I know there are certain things like fuel injectors, fuel pumps, MAF, etc, that need to be updated but do i need to with 6 lbs.? I was told no, but i want to make sure. And also i plan on updating my fuel setup to accomadate larger boost before i build the motor. what all will i need to do for right now and in the near future? Like what size injectors, fuel pump, etc. will i need to be around 400 rwhp?
My mods are in my sig thanks guys
Also i am not really that new to the mustang scene but i have always been N/A and i have always dreamed of getting a blower. Ive looked at a bunch of forums in the past and present about what is needed after putting on a blower. I know there are certain things like fuel injectors, fuel pumps, MAF, etc, that need to be updated but do i need to with 6 lbs.? I was told no, but i want to make sure. And also i plan on updating my fuel setup to accomadate larger boost before i build the motor. what all will i need to do for right now and in the near future? Like what size injectors, fuel pump, etc. will i need to be around 400 rwhp?
My mods are in my sig thanks guys
#4
ive never heard of that company. How does it run without an oiling system??? There has to be some form of oiling. Either by tapping the pan and running a feed hose or its one of those self oiling contained systems.
#5
thanks cooper
Jeredan thats exactly what i said but from what i was told it doesnt need it. supposedly the maker came up with a way to get around that and thats what is supposed to be nice about the kit because there is zero maintence needed. I dont know if all S/Cs use ball bearings but this one comes with race bearings capable of over 40 psi if that has anything to do with it.
Jeredan thats exactly what i said but from what i was told it doesnt need it. supposedly the maker came up with a way to get around that and thats what is supposed to be nice about the kit because there is zero maintence needed. I dont know if all S/Cs use ball bearings but this one comes with race bearings capable of over 40 psi if that has anything to do with it.
#7
Originally Posted by 00PerfRedGT
Am i going to need all of what Cooper said even if i am only going to run 6lbs or is that just for later? sorry for the stupid questions but it helps alot.
#10
In theory, with 6PSI, you're boosting your HP output by about 40%. That means if the motor is tuned and can meet the demands of the extra flow, you should be around 350-360HP at the flywheel. You might be able to get by with a good tune and spark plugs only but why risk it. Plus you'll eventually upgrade to a smaller pulley and want to run more boost, why not do the pump and injectors nor to be safe. Does the head unit have the internal belt like the old powerdynes or is it self contained oiling like the procharger?
#11
Originally Posted by cobra1923
In theory, with 6PSI, you're boosting your HP output by about 40%. That means if the motor is tuned and can meet the demands of the extra flow, you should be around 350-360HP at the flywheel. You might be able to get by with a good tune and spark plugs only but why risk it. Plus you'll eventually upgrade to a smaller pulley and want to run more boost, why not do the pump and injectors nor to be safe. Does the head unit have the internal belt like the old powerdynes or is it self contained oiling like the procharger?
Im only making 360rwhp, on a 10psi procharger and 3 core intercooler, then again, the MAF is pegged pretty early, so that may be why too.
Get the NGK plugs, and gap them at .030.
Focus pump
With 6lbs of boost, 38# injectors will be fine, but id go with 42# just in case you run more boost.
A tune of some sort..
Optional:
180º thermostat
Boost gauge
Fuel pressure gauge
#12
I looked at the wynjammer design and it seems like they've removed the whole step-up gearing from the head unit.. that's how there no oiling needs. It's driven off an external cog belt using a VERY small pulley on the blower side and a pretty large one from an accessory like the alternator. The bearings are sealed and grease lubricated which does little to cool them. The site speaks about the boost range being from 6-10lbs which isn't surprising considering a rubber cogged belt is driving it to some pretty insane speeds instead of a gear or internal belt doing that. You don't want to stress your alternator bearings with the side load from trying to sping up 14lbs out of a blower.
So, IMHO a novel design with a few gotchas like limited boost potential and external drive belts but not a failure on design alone. I certainly wouldn't have picked that particular unit but I'm a vortech bigot so we all know what I would have picked pretty much no matter what.
So, IMHO a novel design with a few gotchas like limited boost potential and external drive belts but not a failure on design alone. I certainly wouldn't have picked that particular unit but I'm a vortech bigot so we all know what I would have picked pretty much no matter what.
#13
Yeah i wasnt too particular about the blower either bout i bought the head unit from a friend after it was just rebuilt with race bearings for $1000 and then just had to buy the rest of the kit from Wynjammer Superchargers which only cost around $500. I feel like it was a good deal even though with my car being what it is. With my car being a Boss Shinoda i am supposed to get a Vortech and a few other mods to go to the status of level 2. I talked with the local dealer of Boss Shinoda parts and he said if he drives it and likes it, it looks clean, and is reliable, that he will certify the car as level 2 regardless of the fact that it is not a Vortech.
My only worry is that i have a goal of 500rwhp and i hope i can make that. I personally have been thinking of swapping a built 5.4, cobra R brakes, and T-56, suspension, etc. and then upping the boost (obviously other things will be done). Now i am worrying about not only my goal but being able to get a lot of boost from that blower. And i also run into the problem of not having a matching numbers car, i plan to keep the car for a long time and being that is under the serial number 00-01, only Boss Shinoda in Performance Red, and the only Boss Shinoda with FR500s. So i have to ask myself when to call it quits. Coming from another mustang owner's stand point, what do you all think about what i have in store?
thanks for everything and again sorry for being so long
My only worry is that i have a goal of 500rwhp and i hope i can make that. I personally have been thinking of swapping a built 5.4, cobra R brakes, and T-56, suspension, etc. and then upping the boost (obviously other things will be done). Now i am worrying about not only my goal but being able to get a lot of boost from that blower. And i also run into the problem of not having a matching numbers car, i plan to keep the car for a long time and being that is under the serial number 00-01, only Boss Shinoda in Performance Red, and the only Boss Shinoda with FR500s. So i have to ask myself when to call it quits. Coming from another mustang owner's stand point, what do you all think about what i have in store?
thanks for everything and again sorry for being so long
#14
you'll NEVER reach 500hp with that blower. It can't turn the RPMs to generate that much boost. The only way to get there would be to put 4v heads on it, up the compression to 10:1+, and bump the boost all the way to 10lbs... it might make 500hp... might.
As for it being a boss shinoda... that's neat and all but near as I can tell it's still a box stock (as originally sold) GT with cool graphics and a body kit. I don't see it affecting the resale value too much just being a Boss car. So, ignore the boss certification, and move on with your mods.
The 5.4 swap...that's my baby, so check out the sticky in this forum and ping in. We'll help you with questions you have about that. I'm almost done building my 5.4L w 10.75:1 compression forged bottom end, ported heads and an HPS intake.. should be pretty fun when complete. T56 is great for road racing but I'd probably go with a TKO500 myself for general street duty. 6 speeds is just annoying some times.
As for it being a boss shinoda... that's neat and all but near as I can tell it's still a box stock (as originally sold) GT with cool graphics and a body kit. I don't see it affecting the resale value too much just being a Boss car. So, ignore the boss certification, and move on with your mods.
The 5.4 swap...that's my baby, so check out the sticky in this forum and ping in. We'll help you with questions you have about that. I'm almost done building my 5.4L w 10.75:1 compression forged bottom end, ported heads and an HPS intake.. should be pretty fun when complete. T56 is great for road racing but I'd probably go with a TKO500 myself for general street duty. 6 speeds is just annoying some times.
#16
well thanks guys i appreciate the input and i think after a little debate i am not going to buy that particular blower. I have talked myself out of it atleast for right now... I have goals for my car and since a Boss Shinoda level 2 requires a Vortech blower and level 3 requires a twin turbo kit (not sure of the maker of the kit) then ill just have to see what my budget can allow, being as it is that i am only 18.
im definitely thinking of doing the 5.4 swap and ill see what happens...
thanks
im definitely thinking of doing the 5.4 swap and ill see what happens...
thanks
#17
5.4L man... mega torque and factory reliable. You can score an engine for probably 1500 bucks and then it's maybe 500 so in parts and 500-1000 install. Put a vortech on that and have him give you a BS level 2.
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