LOL this is ridiculous..

I voted Obama, I own quite a few firearms. You can bet your *** someone won't be coming into my home and taking my firearms without some noise, and they won't be taking my right to buy a firearm either. It simply won't happen.

What they are going to take away an AK47 or some ****? Big deal, pretty useless to me.

The president is kinda like the starting pitcher in a baseball game, if your team loses, it goes onto YOUR record as YOU lost the game. You're the big man, you decide what happens and what doesn't happen.

Maybe if Bush had been intelligent enough to veto some retarded idea we wouldn't be in this mess?

WNRacing: the militaries job isn't to bring democracy to some shithole country. Don't tell me Iraq is better now without Saddam, not when they are now influenced by Iran. Oh ya, how many WMDs did we find? How about the countries where the terrorists came from? How about the plane hijacked by the Iranians and 200+ americans killed by them?

Wheres Osama the money man?

Just a few short, quick questions that I really think you may be dillusional on about that.

Bush had my respect as a president in 01, then again, I was in 8th grade. Bush was a joke right around 03.

My pockets hurt after tax increases? I've got a question, whats better, to have work with some higher taxes, or to have no work in a crumbled economy? Give it a couple months, when the effects of the stock markets plummiting and the fear to build sets in, and the mass layoffs start and a shitload of hardworking people like you and I are out of work for a while. Then tell me how nice it is to have some change in your pockets to be able to feed your family is.

This whole bullshit about the "why does he only say hes black ect ect" thing is kinda lame.. its like why do you call yourself only white? By now we're all mutts over here, we carry a little indian, a little irish, some german ect ect.

Personally, I don't think the term "African American" should be used. If you're a legal citizen, you're an AMERICAN. I don't give a **** where you came from.

I'll wait to see what happens with Obama, I'm glad hes in office, if he does a terrible job, I'll kick myself in the *** and hope hes a one term president only.

 

Thats just ethnicity though. You can't say your ethnicity is American. Just like whites are not whites there Caucasian

 

When I hear stuff like that what that person say, it just makes me cringe. Race will always be an issue w/ that mentality, which Obama publicized and used effectively (especially w/ Murtha's comments that Western PA is racist because they don't want Obama).

However, what I find interesting is how most people in the black community view this as a victory, etc. since this a landmark achievement. That's when I like to ask why did no one say this every time Alan Keyes ran? In fact, why did he always do so poorly w/ none of the black vote? Was it just because Obama was the one who happen to have the letter D next to his name? I still wonder what would happen if Keyes beat Obama back in 04...

 

Obama will pay for our gas and mortgage right?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6ikOxi9yYk

 

I'd probably watch out for this guy.

 

ok, so who here actually thinks Obama will bring about good change? and help out the middle-class. we will now have bigger government and more taxes, the financial crisis will get worse/

 

Not like it matters since if McCain won, he too would be for higher taxes and more government. You can thank the bail out for that one...

 

...Priceless

 

I bet you and your redneck buddies would actually like to see that happen!

 

well, time will tell won't it. If he does a shitty job in the next 4 years, then we vote him out. Maybe I'm being too positive about it, but you all see to forget the **** storm our current president got us in and I'm not sure if god himself could fix it right away.

 

The more I listen to you and SntBako the more I realise that you are both typical liberal Cali. Bush haters. You didn't care who was running, as long as they had a D next to their name you were voting for them weren't you? I'm really not meaning to be an *******, but you both seriously come off that way. Haven't you been the one preaching that the President really doesn't have all that much control? That even if Obama is a moron he can't really accomplish anything too damaging? So, if Obama is incapable of causing damage, just how did Bush go about "Ruining the USA?" hmmm...

 

I'm not a Bush hater, I just don't agree with a lot of his policies. I voted for our Rep governor, and several local Rep officials so I'm not a puppet. And please don't tell me you don't vote Rep straight across the board.

Yep, I have said the Pres doesn't have full power and Congress has the check book. I never said Congress wasn't to blame as well. I'm extremely fearful of Nancy Pelosi because she's an extreme SF democrat and they are WAY out there.

Look, I didn't say Obama is incapable of causing damage.....he is more than capable as is any president, but in my opinion the country can only get better.

My point is that people act like the world is going to end tomorrow now that Obama is elected, but forget we are in a complete **** storm right now. If you've ever been a boss you know that sometimes when things happen under your watch, even if you didn't directly do it, it's your ***. That's how it works with presidents and he's not the only one that it's happened to.

 

I'm just saying, the thought of that actually happening crossed my mind. I wouldn't be surprised to hear about some KKK activity before too long, especially as inauguration day approaches.

I can get past the whole race thing myself, I just don't agree with his views and plans for the nation. I liked listening to him speak (if only he was speaking different words). It wasn't like listening to the typical street thug that I see every day. He actually carries himself respectfully and talks in complete sentences with proper grammar.

I don't think it will be as bad as some may believe, but all I can do if it is is sit back and know that I did my part and know that I am not to blame if it is.

 

[QUOTE=96TangerineBossGT;362768] He actually carries himself respectfully and talks in complete sentences with proper grammar.QUOTE]

LOL....this man speaks the truth! In all seriousness I wonder if his secret service will be doubled compared to other presidents.

 

[QUOTE=jjtgiants;362770]It would probably be a good idea.

 

the country can only get better? are you serious? **** can get a lot worse. and i just do not see how Obama will change anything for the better. hopefully i'm wrong. just seems people voted for him for all the wrong reasons.

 

How do you know McCain would do any better? You don't. Yeah higher taxes will suck, but what other way is there to get us out of a deficit? Where does all this money just magically come from? I wonder how many of you who are bitching about taxes even have jobs? Spending your parents money doesn't count. You guys remember George Bush Sr., I'm pretty sure he said no new taxes and then turned around and went against his word. Everyone does it, Democrat and Repulicans alike.

 

Or even come close to making enough money to be be affected by tax increases. I'd be willing to bet there aren't many people on this site that make over $200k.

 

exactly. When the tax increase comes, lets see how many of you even notice it.

 

They'll notice it by losing their jobs.

 

So then, how do you think the government can make up this huge deficit? Where will all this money magically come from? You guys who say these taxes will hurt everyone, but you don't offer any suggestions on what else they can do. What is your solution? I'm right there in the middle class and I have no fear that my job will be solid and secure. The higher taxes should have an affect on the people making much higher wages then the average person.

 

*gasp!* oh my god! no!!!!!



you are one dumb kid. =/ are the only black people you've seen been on t.v.? or do you just live in a trailer?

 

Why bother taking the effort of trying to determine a solution when you can simply bitch and moan about every solution presented?

lol...

 

oh maybe I misunderstood what he was saying. I thought he was making fun of bush, but maybe not. My bad

 

 

And the hilarity continues..

Really because an increase in taxes is going to force you to go broke... but the failing economy won't..... AMAZING... so you know, these banks going out of business and the stock market tumbling isn't going to cause people to go out of work? Sure.

And yea, I'm a Cali Bush hating democrat. Because my brothers in Iraq, blind in his firing eye and on tour number FOUR, because people like Bush and other republicans would like to abolish the organization I belong to and put me out of work, because hes for the big businessman with millions and not for the little guy.

Really, increased government is bad? Well, we see what happens when you deregulate things, companies take advantage of you and charge the **** out of you. Point - Oil companies Point- San Diegos PG&E when they elected a republican and he or she started deregulating.

Our demand is down now? Nope. Not by a long shot especially with the holidays coming up and winter hitting, we're using more now, but gasoline has dropped by 2 bucks.

I've said it multiple times and I'll say it again, raise my taxes, as long as I have a job to feed my family.

 

Once again, regulation is used wrongly. Conservatism is not about taking away consumer protection. Even to say that is just ignorant. What it is about is to create an environment that encourages the growth of businesses by not taxing them to leave the country, by not telling them how to do business (like how we forced banks to give loans to people who can't afford them), etc. In addition, to suggest that oil companies "take advantage" of the consumer is ludicrous. As it stands, despite making all these "insane" profits, once all the crude has been paid off and all the taxes paid, there is barely enough left to use to fund exploration or expansion.

And yes, more government is bad. It is sad to think that 100 years ago, we didn't even need an income tax to fund our federal government. Now, it's so large that it's in $10 trillion in debt. We have added so much to the federal government, all of which has been over reaching the power of the government since The Constitution does not provide for (like welfare, education, SS, etc.). You want to know how we can make up this debt and deficit w/o a tax hike? Try cutting the size of government down. Every year a new record is set in budget size and yet we can't find a way to stop this and maybe even reverse it?

As for the banks, we need to stop bailing them out. Not only does it set a bad precedent, we simply don't have the money. If the government was interested in reviving the economy, they would enact the FairTax since anything else is a patch up job and our current tax system is doing nothing more than draining this country.

 

Regulation is used wrongly. Conservation isn't. Tell me, when was conservation last used? If there wasn't regulation telling the banks how to do business I the debt they would put YOU in would be insane and you would have no way of getting around in if you wanted to buy a house. Houses wouldn't have been 600 thousand for a 3 bedroom 2 bath here, it'd be more like 1mil, because theres no one to tell them "you can't do that.."

Companies can and WILL take advantage of you if they can, especially if you have no other option.

Barely enough money for the oil companies to expand and explore? You're a little naive on how much they've got in the bank, after the taxing and after the crude is paid off. You do realize they drill the oil, basically buy it from themselves, and then "estimate" how much its worth right?

So, decrease the government, get rid of what jobs? And thats going to save them how much compared to the billions if not trillions we pay in taxes as a whole country.

Social Security is already a flop, education is pretty much needed, welfare, they need to figure out a better method for assisted help.

How about not removing these things but reforming them so the people that actually need this **** can use it?

Don't bailout the banks, so when they shut down the people with more then 100k in the banks LOSE their money. Watch everything else tumble afterwards. I still haven't figured out a better option for that one.

Our current tax situation is doing nothing but draining the country due to everything that HAS gone on. Why have a "fair tax" if the company that pulls in 2 trillion in profit each year, you can make.. lets say a billion or some number off them, and give the middle class worker a smaller tax.. Whereas with the fair tax, the company only plops out a couple million, and the middleclass guy ends up dishing out maybe 2 grand..

A set percentage wouldn't work in a very timely manner. Not while you can raise the taxes up, get the debt paid in..maybe 15 years, and then the taxes get lowered.

Oh ya, 100 years ago they didn't have satellites developed, space travel wasn't possible, electricity wasn't strung in every house, automobiles were seldom, and you couldn't just pop up and talk to anyone anywhere in the world just by using this machine called a computer..

More **** = more management = more money

Got anyone 100 years ago worth 42 billion dollars?

 

Brilliant! Lets start by reducing our governments presence in IRAQ. That will certainly reign in on some over-spending.


bahahahahahaha


******-A!!!!!!!!!!!

 

That is the truth. I have a friend who works in a logistics department for construction bids and such with a major oil company, he said that the amounts of money they deal with in these contracts is so insanely high that they commonly estimate within 10's millions and dont even bother any type of an audit on a few missing million here or a few missing million there.