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View Poll Results: What are your 5.4L swap plans?
Not swapping. You guys are nuts for trying.
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Not swapping but find the topic interesting.
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Thinking about doing the swap but not in the next year.
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Definitely going to do the swap in the next year or so.
25.45%
Doing it now. Looking for an engine or awaiting delivery.
15.45%
Doing it now. Already bought an engine.
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Done. Got my 5.4L and showin my tail lights to camaro's every day.
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Screw 5.4, I'm going diesel 4cylinder.
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Old 05-25-2007, 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by SleepingGT
the way i've done it is to double nut and then once you break the double free use some pliers with some cloth or rubber inbetween the teeth and the stud to keep from damaging the threads
Interesting. Im also told the studs would not thread in all the way. Any experience with this ?
 
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thanks for the info and the time all of you guys have put into this... i'll be sure to bookmark this and come back when I get started.
 
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Old 05-25-2007, 01:26 PM
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I think I'm just sticking to the 2v swap. Found some cheap heads and having MMR do a stage 3 port and polish as well as getting some other stuff from them at the same time.
 
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Originally Posted by Blitzmann
I think I'm just sticking to the 2v swap. Found some cheap heads and having MMR do a stage 3 port and polish as well as getting some other stuff from them at the same time.
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i'm thinking about getting the reichard racing adaptor plates for the 01 cobra heads i already have...i wonder which would work better on the 5.4 block
 
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Old 05-25-2007, 03:48 PM
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in all honesty though i've got plenty of time to think about it because of my current back problems and my car being totaled...all i do is lay around messed up on pain meds thinking about the next car i'm gonna put together when my back gets better
 
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Originally Posted by SleepingGT
i'm thinking about getting the reichard racing adaptor plates for the 01 cobra heads i already have...i wonder which would work better on the 5.4 block
If you are running a 5.4 DOHC - get the sullivan intake.
 
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the good thing with most everybody here is that you can build whatever u want (2v,3v,4v) i just did the 2v cus i fell into a motor out of a expidition years ago and located a pair of the adapters. that was all i had to buy. now i want to build a nasty 2v that most ppl don't notice that it is wider then the stock 4.6. if i get time and money i'll build a 4v 5.4 with navi head and a sullivan intake. but until then i want to look like a sleeper till i hit the gas...
 
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Originally Posted by myillwillinc
now i want to build a nasty 2v that most ppl don't notice that it is wider then the stock 4.6. if i get time and money i'll build a 4v 5.4 with navi head and a sullivan intake. but until then i want to look like a sleeper till i hit the gas...
Thats what I like about the 5.4 - 95% of people out there will have NO CLUE.

I've got the bare block and my rods in my garage, most of my friends have seen it and none can tell.

I'm hoping that they will be so perplexed over the 3v swap, that no one will even THINK to look to see that its a 5.4
 
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Old 05-25-2007, 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by myillwillinc
the good thing with most everybody here is that you can build whatever u want (2v,3v,4v) i just did the 2v cus i fell into a motor out of a expidition years ago and located a pair of the adapters. that was all i had to buy. now i want to build a nasty 2v that most ppl don't notice that it is wider then the stock 4.6. if i get time and money i'll build a 4v 5.4 with navi head and a sullivan intake. but until then i want to look like a sleeper till i hit the gas...
Another thing I was thinking about, but wont you have to change hoods with the 5.4 anyway? May kill the sleeper a little. Cobra R '95 hood for me to keep it from getting too carried away.
 
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Old 05-25-2007, 04:30 PM
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i don't know for sure that i want to run a navi head instead of an 01 cobra though...i already have the 01 cobra intake too

i might have to find out what it would cost to get al papito to cut and stretch my 01 intake and turn it into a short runner
 
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Old 05-25-2007, 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Blitzmann
Another thing I was thinking about, but wont you have to change hoods with the 5.4 anyway? May kill the sleeper a little. Cobra R '95 hood for me to keep it from getting too carried away.
yep and in my situation thats what was keeping me from doing a 5.4 but since my car will either need major repairs and a new hood included or i will be getting a roller...a new hood was just a drop in the bucket
 
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Old 05-25-2007, 05:35 PM
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a cobra r or cowl hood will keep it hidden alittle. my old one was a little deeper sounding the the 4.6 so it wasn't noticable till that 01 cobra saw me pulling away in 3rd gear...
 
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Old 05-25-2007, 06:14 PM
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so you can pull a cobra with the 5.4 2v??? man i think i'm going to love this. I found a guy that is selling a complete 5.4 2v out of an suv. just needs head gaskets since the old ones were weeping or something. 400 plus shipping :P man i'm so happy, all i will need is a set of adapters and someone to mod my prochamber to fit and i'll be strait, till i want to install cams and then start my forged short block
 
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Old 05-25-2007, 06:37 PM
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i'm trying to find a way to get one of those aussie 5.4 4v intakes
 
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Old 05-25-2007, 07:04 PM
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the cobra had cai, flowmasters, off-road h-pipe. and we took it from a 2nd gear kickdown.i had alot of bolt-ons but mine was a npi 5.4, i was slowly pulling away from him thru 3rd.
 
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Old 05-25-2007, 07:31 PM
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it was a good win but i believe if the cobra had the proper gearing he would have done alot better, 4v's don't make much low end torque and the 3.27's that came in the 01's wasn't to his advantage
 
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Originally Posted by VOID
so you can pull a cobra with the 5.4 2v??? man i think i'm going to love this. I found a guy that is selling a complete 5.4 2v out of an suv. just needs head gaskets since the old ones were weeping or something. 400 plus shipping :P man i'm so happy, all i will need is a set of adapters and someone to mod my prochamber to fit and i'll be strait, till i want to install cams and then start my forged short block
you can pull on stock termies with a nice ported 2v head and cam/intake package.

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i'm trying to find a way to get one of those aussie 5.4 4v intakes
did you talk to babiic? she's there dude...

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it was a good win but i believe if the cobra had the proper gearing he would have done alot better, 4v's don't make much low end torque and the 3.27's that came in the 01's wasn't to his advantage
the 2nd gear drop and go they did kinda negated the gearing faults for the snake... dropping a gear probably shot him to 4000+rpm. At that point it was a straight tq vs. hp battle. I'm a little surprised that he kept pulling up top but that really just makes me happier. On myillwill's homepage is/was a pic of his speedo passing ~160. A thing of beauty.
 
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Originally Posted by r3dn3ck
did you talk to babiic? she's there dude...
who?
 
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Old 05-25-2007, 08:28 PM
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interesting
 
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badii-c is only 16 and when i talked to her she didn't know anything about parts. you would do better to lookup a forum in ausse that u could join and post a wtb for an intake. most 5.4's there are 3v only.
 
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Old 05-25-2007, 09:20 PM
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i guess i'd probably be better off doing the reichard adaptors for the heads i already have and the 01 cobra intake


i still need to find a navi timing cover though
 
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Originally Posted by SleepingGT
i'm trying to find a way to get one of those aussie 5.4 4v intakes
Looked everywhere and called everyone trying to find the 3v Falcon intakes. Either could not get one or was going to have to pay OEM prices

But a real question, which 2v intake should I go with? Thinking Bullitt if I can find one but cheapest I've seen one for is like 650 and figure if one of the others brand new is putting out more hp then I might as well spend a little more cash and get one. Any other intakes putting down proven hp?
 
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Old 05-25-2007, 10:53 PM
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if anyone finds a navi timing cover and timing chains/tensioners etc for a decent price let me know
 
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Old 05-26-2007, 07:15 AM
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Since everyone is wondering on exhaust for the 3V, you could use adpator plates w/o any penalty since 3V heads are narrower than 2V (if you are doing headers) or just cut the flanges off your headers and put ones made for 3V heads on. If you're staying w/ the manifolds, use the 3V pieces since they're better and just have your mid-pipe modified at an exhaust shop.
 
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Originally Posted by 2Eighty1
Another topic change.

Head and Main Studs...

What are everyones thoughts on these.
I have ARP head bolts and main studs. the mains came with allen holes in the top to seat them. the head bolts were easier to deal with than studs and there's dowels in the block and heads for alignment so I figured that straight bolts would be fine up top.

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I think I'm just sticking to the 2v swap. Found some cheap heads and having MMR do a stage 3 port and polish as well as getting some other stuff from them at the same time.
hey blitz... I have an windsor head that's already ported. needs a valve job... if you want to pick it up from me I'll cut you a deal. Perhaps only porting 1 head will help your cash outlay.


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i'm thinking about getting the reichard racing adaptor plates for the 01 cobra heads i already have...i wonder which would work better on the 5.4 block
that's how I'd go. If you have the heads they're definitely worth it. I'd try and get them ported out to the truck specs on the intake runners.


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Looked everywhere and called everyone trying to find the 3v Falcon intakes. Either could not get one or was going to have to pay OEM prices

But a real question, which 2v intake should I go with? Thinking Bullitt if I can find one but cheapest I've seen one for is like 650 and figure if one of the others brand new is putting out more hp then I might as well spend a little more cash and get one. Any other intakes putting down proven hp?
pay oem... it's a good intake and aussie dollars are worth .75 US so you're really gunna take advantage of that difference. Otherwise, ported 2v and a fat cam.
 
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lol i think if you pull on a cobra with a npi 5.4 2v then the torqe is def. better on these cars than hp. lol.

anyway, myillwill....did the npi have a pi intake and cams or was it the npi intake and npi cams? what kinda bolt on's did you have? sorry for all these questions.

I do think i'm going to get a 2v instead of going the 3 or 4v thing.

So do you guys think a 5.4 2v "with a custom cam to take advantage of the added stroke, mild self clean up of the runners on the heads, a stall converter, shift kit, and 4.10's" would be a winner

I already got the mac exaust and big fat back tires on my cobra r's.

I know that the internals can take much so i'm not going to Nitro or force air into it and i'm going to keep my stock shift point of 5500 rpm, that should be fine right? That way i can build up my forged short block and either 200 shot on it or put a vortec.

can anyone help with some cam specs? I have no clue what to go with since these motors need different cams than the 4.6. thanks and again sorry for all the questions. trying to finalize my ideas for this thing

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Old 05-26-2007, 02:09 PM
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the motor was a npi but it had a pi intake plus: steeda pullies, frpp shorties, bbk-off road x-pipe, c&l plenum and 80mm maf, frpp 70mm tb, 24# injectors, 2 chamber flowmasters, mac cai. this was with the original trans/clutch and rearend. i did have a pro5.0 shifter.

now look at the link below to see what i have on this new one...
 
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...maybe i should break down and just do 2v...
 


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