View Poll Results: What are your 5.4L swap plans?
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#8191
I don't mean to interrupt but I haven't been on here for awhile so I thought I would share my progress.
I picked up a turbo kit a few months ago and just finished things up and got it tuned a couple days ago. The single turbo kit's piping took a ton of cutting and tig welding to make it fit the 5.4 but it was worth it.
Laid down 397.2 rwhp and 463.6 rwtq on the mustang dyno. Boost stayed between 6 and 7 pounds which is kinda low but I want it to stay together.
I'm hoping the stock bottom end holds for a season because I plan on going forged next winter.
I pick the car up later today so I should be out frying some rubber later on.
I picked up a turbo kit a few months ago and just finished things up and got it tuned a couple days ago. The single turbo kit's piping took a ton of cutting and tig welding to make it fit the 5.4 but it was worth it.
Laid down 397.2 rwhp and 463.6 rwtq on the mustang dyno. Boost stayed between 6 and 7 pounds which is kinda low but I want it to stay together.
I'm hoping the stock bottom end holds for a season because I plan on going forged next winter.
I pick the car up later today so I should be out frying some rubber later on.
#8192
Still sitting on the 5.4 engine..nothing to be done to it till at least after x-mas when people want more remodels done for work.
With this engine sitting at 120 xxx , i might as well buy some newer guts... I am not going to dump a whole lota money into the engine to get it going..but at least for starters i would like to get that hardballer intake to keep it under the stock hood...maybe cams...and thats about it... then tune until more money flows.
With this engine sitting at 120 xxx , i might as well buy some newer guts... I am not going to dump a whole lota money into the engine to get it going..but at least for starters i would like to get that hardballer intake to keep it under the stock hood...maybe cams...and thats about it... then tune until more money flows.
#8193
tommy, working on a dyno sim for you.
mean330: killer numbers. what heads and cams are you running?
Omaha: Check out TMD on ebay. Search for "6.658 rod". They have some of the best prices going for forged goodies.
still waiting for my intercooler pump to arrive. in the meantime, it's kinda cold today so may not do much/anything on the car. I have to get my ****** saturn smogged and an oil change done today anyway. booooo
mean330: killer numbers. what heads and cams are you running?
Omaha: Check out TMD on ebay. Search for "6.658 rod". They have some of the best prices going for forged goodies.
still waiting for my intercooler pump to arrive. in the meantime, it's kinda cold today so may not do much/anything on the car. I have to get my ****** saturn smogged and an oil change done today anyway. booooo
#8194
I don't mean to interrupt but I haven't been on here for awhile so I thought I would share my progress.
I picked up a turbo kit a few months ago and just finished things up and got it tuned a couple days ago. The single turbo kit's piping took a ton of cutting and tig welding to make it fit the 5.4 but it was worth it.
Laid down 397.2 rwhp and 463.6 rwtq on the mustang dyno. Boost stayed between 6 and 7 pounds which is kinda low but I want it to stay together.
I'm hoping the stock bottom end holds for a season because I plan on going forged next winter.
I pick the car up later today so I should be out frying some rubber later on.
I picked up a turbo kit a few months ago and just finished things up and got it tuned a couple days ago. The single turbo kit's piping took a ton of cutting and tig welding to make it fit the 5.4 but it was worth it.
Laid down 397.2 rwhp and 463.6 rwtq on the mustang dyno. Boost stayed between 6 and 7 pounds which is kinda low but I want it to stay together.
I'm hoping the stock bottom end holds for a season because I plan on going forged next winter.
I pick the car up later today so I should be out frying some rubber later on.
What all is done to the 5.4?
#8195
R3D / 330gt
2002 mustang gt
2002 5.4 2v
Patriot stage 2 heads
comp xe270ah cams
Qa1 k member / a arms / coil overs (to free up space for the piping)
FRPP 42# inj.
Ford GT fuel pump
PMAS HPX Blow through mass air
On3 performance 70mm single turbo kit w/ intercooler/ bov
alum driveshaft / alum flywheel
3:73 gears
Crappy stock exhaust manifolds and plain jane 4.6 pi intake w/reichard adapters
2002 mustang gt
2002 5.4 2v
Patriot stage 2 heads
comp xe270ah cams
Qa1 k member / a arms / coil overs (to free up space for the piping)
FRPP 42# inj.
Ford GT fuel pump
PMAS HPX Blow through mass air
On3 performance 70mm single turbo kit w/ intercooler/ bov
alum driveshaft / alum flywheel
3:73 gears
Crappy stock exhaust manifolds and plain jane 4.6 pi intake w/reichard adapters
#8197
found this if anyone is looking for a navi engine in dallas area. i would pick it up if i had the money together.... killer deal
http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/pts/1496501813.html
http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/pts/1496501813.html
#8198
fuel question for the boosted 5.4 guys
I am doing an L swap on my 5.4 this winter. I am looking at fuel pump setups.i I want to keep it as cheap and simple as possible. Will a single GT supercar pump be enough and will it work with a simgle unmodified FPDM?? I have a 5.4, L supercharger, comp cams 270's, Partiot stage II heads, FRPP shorties with an off road x pipe and a 4 lb lower and a cold air kit. I really don't want to swap tanks or wire up another FPDM if at all possible. What do you boosted 5.4 swappers have for a setup and how does it work for you?? Thanks
#8200
i had a 04 cobra tank and twin pumps in my car with the lightning setup and they did great,im putting my gt tank back in and doing a custom return style system with the aeromotive weld on sump,the a1000 fuel pump 2 inline filters and the a 1000 regulator and an fittings with braided stainless -8 feed -6 return,
#8201
I am doing an L swap on my 5.4 this winter. I am looking at fuel pump setups.i I want to keep it as cheap and simple as possible. Will a single GT supercar pump be enough and will it work with a simgle unmodified FPDM?? I have a 5.4, L supercharger, comp cams 270's, Partiot stage II heads, FRPP shorties with an off road x pipe and a 4 lb lower and a cold air kit. I really don't want to swap tanks or wire up another FPDM if at all possible. What do you boosted 5.4 swappers have for a setup and how does it work for you?? Thanks
#8202
This all sounds like WAY more than I bargined for! I can't believe you need that big of a feed line! If you look in the Lightning fuel rail where the inlet attaches, there is a MAYBE 1/4" hole in the rail. All of that flow is choked down at that point so feeding a 1/2 line into a 1/4" hole doesn't seem to make much sense??
#8203
I am doing an L swap on my 5.4 this winter. I am looking at fuel pump setups.i I want to keep it as cheap and simple as possible. Will a single GT supercar pump be enough and will it work with a simgle unmodified FPDM?? I have a 5.4, L supercharger, comp cams 270's, Partiot stage II heads, FRPP shorties with an off road x pipe and a 4 lb lower and a cold air kit. I really don't want to swap tanks or wire up another FPDM if at all possible. What do you boosted 5.4 swappers have for a setup and how does it work for you?? Thanks
This all sounds like WAY more than I bargined for! I can't believe you need that big of a feed line! If you look in the Lightning fuel rail where the inlet attaches, there is a MAYBE 1/4" hole in the rail. All of that flow is choked down at that point so feeding a 1/2 line into a 1/4" hole doesn't seem to make much sense??
#8204
Also did you get the injectors/fuel pump/MAF kit from him?
Thanks
Tim
#8205
This all sounds like WAY more than I bargined for! I can't believe you need that big of a feed line! If you look in the Lightning fuel rail where the inlet attaches, there is a MAYBE 1/4" hole in the rail. All of that flow is choked down at that point so feeding a 1/2 line into a 1/4" hole doesn't seem to make much sense??
#8206
Yeah I can PM you with a few details.. I got the fuel pump from Brennspeed for like $150 and injectors from a local guy. PMAS HPX came from VMPtuning.
#8207
I went big on the fuel lines and rails knowing I was going to turn up the wick, Dont use the ford GT pump, it doesnt fit the Mustang tank without modification. If you must try the gt pump I have two of them here. $20 bucks plus shipping. My current setup which has only been tuned by me with a wide band on the street is pushing 18 psi. boost. After new years its going on the dyno. I just put an Art Carr powerglide, brake and converter in it. Cant wait to see what kinda numbers it will lay down. Also going to inject water/meth. Goal is to get timing back up around 25 at full boost. Its around 10 right now with 91 octane and addative.
#8208
multi quote from the above posts
I thought I saw that the GT supercar pump os 265 LPH. I thought the Aviator pump was also 265 LPH. I saw a writeup on installing the GT pump in a Mustang and you use the pump only and transfer it into the Mustang hat assy. I have a 4 lb lower so I think that will put me at 12-14 lb area. I'd REALLY like to get away with a single GT pump and use my stock unmodified FPDM. I really don't want to mess with the dual pump and duap FPDM. I am pushing my limits at that bec. my shortblock is a stocker out of an E-250. I want to get this up and running and then look at rods and pistons some time down the road. I am asking around and researching as much as possible and seeing what people have to say.
#8209
I did a HOW TO on Ford Muscle Dot Com. on installing the Ford GT pump in a mustang hat. It isnt a drop in, wires need to be cut and crimped/soldered. The outlet need cut off the new pump and an adapter made so it will mate will the mustangs canister hat. The fuel filter at the bottom is way different and has to be swapped. The whole thing was kinda cheezy I thought, but it worked for the time being and really wished I'd had just went for the complete kit like i have now, From the Start. Instead I bought a JUNK BG mighty sumo pump fought it and ended up getting refund, went to magna fuel pump and am very happy. I did keep the BG regulator when I sent everything back. haha....ooops
#8210
There ya go, snag up one of cdjnight's Ford gt pumps for cheap. If you happen to reach it's limit run a boost a pump and you would only have a few hundred invested.
I thought the install was pretty easy but I used a 1 foot piece of Gates 5/16 submersible fuel line from the pump to the hat and left the sock filter on the ford gt pump. The only thing I did with the basket was drill a few holes in it to prevent the pump from sucking it dry.
I thought the install was pretty easy but I used a 1 foot piece of Gates 5/16 submersible fuel line from the pump to the hat and left the sock filter on the ford gt pump. The only thing I did with the basket was drill a few holes in it to prevent the pump from sucking it dry.
#8212
R3D / 330gt
2002 mustang gt
2002 5.4 2v
Patriot stage 2 heads
comp xe270ah cams
Qa1 k member / a arms / coil overs (to free up space for the piping)
FRPP 42# inj.
Ford GT fuel pump
PMAS HPX Blow through mass air
On3 performance 70mm single turbo kit w/ intercooler/ bov
alum driveshaft / alum flywheel
3:73 gears
Crappy stock exhaust manifolds and plain jane 4.6 pi intake w/reichard adapters
2002 mustang gt
2002 5.4 2v
Patriot stage 2 heads
comp xe270ah cams
Qa1 k member / a arms / coil overs (to free up space for the piping)
FRPP 42# inj.
Ford GT fuel pump
PMAS HPX Blow through mass air
On3 performance 70mm single turbo kit w/ intercooler/ bov
alum driveshaft / alum flywheel
3:73 gears
Crappy stock exhaust manifolds and plain jane 4.6 pi intake w/reichard adapters
Great Numbers!
#8214
very easy actually. It's all big parts. Everything bolts in. You'll need a new DS yoke, T56 clutch setup, 11" flywheel, crossmember and a shifter.
BTW... I have a T56 Pro-5.0 shifter with handle for sale cheap. Near new.
BTW... I have a T56 Pro-5.0 shifter with handle for sale cheap. Near new.
#8216
Where you at in SC? Im in the upstate so Im def interested....
Also R3d you still have the Dyno Sim? I have some custom cam's I had gotten and wouldnt mind a general ballpark on what ill be making if you have some time to run everything through the sim
Also R3d you still have the Dyno Sim? I have some custom cam's I had gotten and wouldnt mind a general ballpark on what ill be making if you have some time to run everything through the sim
#8219
30 mins from charleston close to where i 26 and i 95 cross each other
#8220
duration at .050 is 250 intake 246 exhaust
lobe lift .5450 intake .5450 exhaust
LSA is 110.00
Duration @ .006 tappet lift intake 285 exhaust is 281
Valve timing open close
int: 15 btdc 55 abdc
@ .050 exh: 53 bbdc 13 atdc
It will have a gasket match ported HPS intake and has a stage 2ish ported PI heads.
Thanks red!