I've been looking for a dyno or a report of the rpm range. I searched got a little info, but nothing like I'm hopeing to find.

It looks like the HPS intake has a shorter runner length than OE, but I can't tell how much or find any info about it.

I am thinking about buiding a N/A 5.0 stroker for my high milage '98 GT and looking at intakes. If I build the engine it's either gonna get the TF or HPS intake, but I like the HPS becasue it basically looks like the OE intake. I'd paint it satin black. Open the hood and at a glance it lokos like a stock engine.

 

I found an old link but it was broken.

Someone must have this info someplace....

 

dont buy it, waste of money, go with a P51, the hardballer is better off used as a paper weight

 

can you elaborate more on why you say the hardballr is garbage?

i think the P51 is more of a waste for the amount you spend on it.

 

i wouldnt buy anything from THR, i've seen others with this intake crack it, i have not seen any proven hp gains with this, it is just a carbon copy of the PI manifold but made of aluminum instead, just think of it as much a waste as the professional products typhoon intake. The P51, Logan motorsports, RR intakes all use a unique design to them and change the way air flows inside them rather than just copying the PI. Just my $.02

 

For a stroker motor with ported heads and aftermarket cams it's a great choice. More NA street oriented than the Reichard or P51. It's best for modified engines as the stock 4.6 is a quite shy of needing it. It's quite durable if the one on my car is any measure. I know of several others that run it and seem to really like it. It's kinda heavy but great quality and a solid design.


P51 is for blower cars and drag cars. It loses too much bottom end on NA street motors. I agree the P51 is a great unit but IMO you're way off base there. Have you actually tried one? I have one.

YOU ARE WRONG! It is not a copy of the PI intake. It just looks like it from the outside, for a reason (pure bolt-on). The runners are significantly shorter, the common plenum is more than 3x the size of a PI unit and the guts are lain out completely differently. The only similarities are how it looks from the top and where everything bolts to.

Show me a person that's cracked the HPS intake. I want to see this.

HP gains aren't what it's for (and anyone that thinks an aftermarket intake is going to help a stock 4.6 is stoned or stupid or ignorant or some combination). It's best used to solve a specific set of problems, like blown up plastic intakes (nitrous backfires), moving peak power rpm higher up (to match typical aftermarket cams and heads) the range, allowing porting for custom applications and of course it bolts up exactly like the stock PI intake so it's easy to deal with and fits under the stock hood. The logan won't fit under a stock hood and is very costly, the reichard is a nice unit in line with the logan but extraordinarily expensive and the P51 has much too short a runner length for a NA street car. It loses too much grunt at the bottom (which HPS, Logan and Reichard do not do quite so bad).

Truth be told the PI and Bullit intakes are about the best options for a stock or mildly modified street car. Step up to hotter parts like heads and cams and a stroker kit and you'll do well with any of the Logan, Reichard, HPS intakes.

The typhoon is a decent intake but it's in fact a very close copy of the PI intake (I had one of those too). On a 5.4 with adapter plates the typhoon reduced output 10hp and 26tq over a stock plastic PI intake.

 

this statement still doesnt mean anything to me. i was asking if you could prove any of those past statements you made about that intake.

i know the RR intake is not in production anymore, the logan motorsports is just crazy expensive even with the option that allows you to retain the stock hood...i always thought the HPS hardball'r was a good deal for any mustang especially if your **** started spewing coolant everywhere. I know that stock 2 valves wont make power with a intake swap but if you have to replace one mine as well upgrade to something thats a little better without a huge price tag.

 

Wow. Well all this isn't what I was expecting.

My idea is simply a shorter runner intake with more available plenum volume to feed a little bit bigger engine that could support the addition of NOS if I decided to go with a power adder later. I'm just trying to find out whatthe real world rev range is on the intake.

If I do a stroker 5.0 it would have CNC heads and custom cams to power right up to the redline. The extra stroke should take care of any bottom end torque concerns.

 

The P51 is not a good intake for a street driven n/a motor, especially one with a stock rotating assembly as the it (P51) needs cams with a lot of duration, lots of RPM, or more cubic inches to be effective.

 

I run the HPS 4.6L hardball'r (heavily ported) on my 5.5L 2v (with adapter plates). I've run it 6100rpm at WOT without seeing vacuum build behind the throttle blade so I'm pretty sure it'll feed a NA/N2O 5.0 stroker into the 6800-7000+rpm range. The 2v heads would be a limiting factor before the Hardball'r so I wouldn't worry too much about the peak.

If you're going full out with it, have it ported by HPS. Also, check your PM's for other info.

 

I'm running the Hardballr on my 4.6l Mod stroker with a D1SC procharger and it works great.
I have dyno prove of 871 RWHP and 771 RW Torq.

 

damn that's a lot of airflow.