April Fools? Or no?
#1
April Fools? Or no?
With all of the recent stuff going on, this could be legit. However, it seems all too perfect for them to decide this now....discuss
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http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...ascar_car_news
In a move sure to spark outrage, the White House announced today that GM and Chrysler must cease participation in NASCAR at the end of the 2009 season if they hope to receive any additional financial aid from the government. Companies around the globe—Honda and Audi, to name two—have drawn down racing operations, and NASCAR itself has already felt the pinch in the form of reduced team spending. A complete withdrawal from America’s premier racing series is expected to save more than $250 million between GM and Chrysler, a substantial amount considering the drastic measures being implemented elsewhere.
“Automakers used to operate on the principle of ‘win on Sunday, sell on Monday,’ but the Auto Task Force’s research just doesn’t validate that as true,” said the statement from President Obama. While fans have decried the Car of Tomorrow for heavily limiting what little personalization the cookie-cutter series had previously allowed to participating manufacturers, and drivers have slammed its brick-like aerodynamics and unpredictable handling, even the governmental oversight committee sees that the full-scale regulation of the cars leaves the manufacturers very little space for research and development. “NASCAR is a racing series that regulates down to the smallest detail of the cars, where a car badged a Chevrolet or Dodge differs only marginally from a Ford or a Toyota. There’s no technological development to speak of.”
The statement goes on further to say the same demand will be made of Ford if it asks for government assistance. “In order to receive this money, corporations must demonstrate they will spend it wisely. Racing has been said to improve on-road technology, but frankly, NASCAR almost flaunts its standing among the lowest-tech forms of motorsport. NASCAR is not proven to drive advancements that transfer from the racetrack to the road, and this nation’s way forward does not hinge on decades-old technology. We need new, and we need innovation.”
The President realizes this will be an unpopular call, but stands behind the decision, saying, “This is an obvious cut to make, but it is not an easy one. This administration is not ignoring the tremendous sentimental value and emotional appeal NASCAR holds for so many Americans. But now is not the time for sentiment and nostalgia; now is a time for decisive financial action. If our automotive industry is to emerge from this recession intact, then these difficult decisions must be made.”
Both Chevrolet and Dodge see the move as only temporary, and fully expect to resume racing in NASCAR as soon as they have stabilized and the government’s hand in their operations is minimized. “There is nothing really to say at this point,” said one representative, who wished to remain anonymous. “We’ve been doing this since the beginning, and we always assumed we’d be doing this until the end. Heck, nobody ever thought to think that there would be an end. But we ain’t done. As soon as this is over, we’re taking back our spot at the top.”
NASCAR officials remain tight-lipped about the call, but sources say series president Mike Helton and team managers are exploring several options, including other manufacturers to fill Chevrolet and Dodge’s vacated positions. Given the company’s recent interest in motorsport and the steady cash-flow and V-8 engine provided by its new Genesis sedan, sources indicate that NASCAR is pinging Hyundai to gauge the Korean company’s interest in occupying a spot in NASCAR. “Toyota was not well-received their first year in the sport, nor was their first season an easy one,” the source says. “But they learned, they applied the lessons, and they have proven very competitive this year.”
If Hyundai does indeed join the series, there will no doubt be a steep learning curve, and the move would leave Ford the lone domestic battling a pair of Asian makes in America’s most popular racing series. We wonder, however, how long NASCAR could hold that title without two of its most storied participants.
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http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...ascar_car_news
In a move sure to spark outrage, the White House announced today that GM and Chrysler must cease participation in NASCAR at the end of the 2009 season if they hope to receive any additional financial aid from the government. Companies around the globe—Honda and Audi, to name two—have drawn down racing operations, and NASCAR itself has already felt the pinch in the form of reduced team spending. A complete withdrawal from America’s premier racing series is expected to save more than $250 million between GM and Chrysler, a substantial amount considering the drastic measures being implemented elsewhere.
“Automakers used to operate on the principle of ‘win on Sunday, sell on Monday,’ but the Auto Task Force’s research just doesn’t validate that as true,” said the statement from President Obama. While fans have decried the Car of Tomorrow for heavily limiting what little personalization the cookie-cutter series had previously allowed to participating manufacturers, and drivers have slammed its brick-like aerodynamics and unpredictable handling, even the governmental oversight committee sees that the full-scale regulation of the cars leaves the manufacturers very little space for research and development. “NASCAR is a racing series that regulates down to the smallest detail of the cars, where a car badged a Chevrolet or Dodge differs only marginally from a Ford or a Toyota. There’s no technological development to speak of.”
The statement goes on further to say the same demand will be made of Ford if it asks for government assistance. “In order to receive this money, corporations must demonstrate they will spend it wisely. Racing has been said to improve on-road technology, but frankly, NASCAR almost flaunts its standing among the lowest-tech forms of motorsport. NASCAR is not proven to drive advancements that transfer from the racetrack to the road, and this nation’s way forward does not hinge on decades-old technology. We need new, and we need innovation.”
The President realizes this will be an unpopular call, but stands behind the decision, saying, “This is an obvious cut to make, but it is not an easy one. This administration is not ignoring the tremendous sentimental value and emotional appeal NASCAR holds for so many Americans. But now is not the time for sentiment and nostalgia; now is a time for decisive financial action. If our automotive industry is to emerge from this recession intact, then these difficult decisions must be made.”
Both Chevrolet and Dodge see the move as only temporary, and fully expect to resume racing in NASCAR as soon as they have stabilized and the government’s hand in their operations is minimized. “There is nothing really to say at this point,” said one representative, who wished to remain anonymous. “We’ve been doing this since the beginning, and we always assumed we’d be doing this until the end. Heck, nobody ever thought to think that there would be an end. But we ain’t done. As soon as this is over, we’re taking back our spot at the top.”
NASCAR officials remain tight-lipped about the call, but sources say series president Mike Helton and team managers are exploring several options, including other manufacturers to fill Chevrolet and Dodge’s vacated positions. Given the company’s recent interest in motorsport and the steady cash-flow and V-8 engine provided by its new Genesis sedan, sources indicate that NASCAR is pinging Hyundai to gauge the Korean company’s interest in occupying a spot in NASCAR. “Toyota was not well-received their first year in the sport, nor was their first season an easy one,” the source says. “But they learned, they applied the lessons, and they have proven very competitive this year.”
If Hyundai does indeed join the series, there will no doubt be a steep learning curve, and the move would leave Ford the lone domestic battling a pair of Asian makes in America’s most popular racing series. We wonder, however, how long NASCAR could hold that title without two of its most storied participants.
#6
It's april fools. It says it at the top of the page.
Obama Orders Chevrolet and Dodge Out Of NASCAR - Car News
HAPPY APRIL FOOLS' DAY! With their racing budgets deemed “unnecessary expenditures,” GM and Chrysler are ordered to cease racing operations at the end of the season.
Obama Orders Chevrolet and Dodge Out Of NASCAR - Car News
HAPPY APRIL FOOLS' DAY! With their racing budgets deemed “unnecessary expenditures,” GM and Chrysler are ordered to cease racing operations at the end of the season.
#9
Hyundai != Honda
#14
If they would change the cars up rather than forcing everyone to drive the same exact thing, like a real racing series, then it would be more interesting. Ofcourse, you have to have limitations, but I would like to see the rules loosened a bit, allow for different body styles, anything to differentiate the teams. It's just seems like the only thing that is a factor is the drivers, and the number on the car.
#15
I've been a Nascar fan since I was 7 or 8 years old. And yes that would be since the 1960's. The COT hasn't done much for safety as far as a production model car is concerned. For the racers car, yes it has improved safety, but for a production model of the same make or model, nope. There are no air bags in Nascar, and there are no passenger cars even remotely designed like a Nascar car..
That being said Nascar has been going to hell since they mandated the cot. It's not what the drivers like, It's not what the fans like, and it shows from the ticket sales.
IMHO the race teams owners, ( you know, those Rich guys) should be able to pick a make and model they want to use.
Lets say Jack Roush wants to build a Mustang to race Nascar. Let him do it. Hell Make him do it. Who says all the models have to be Fusions..
Same with Richard Childress, he could have an Impala, and Corvette..
Sure they would have to spend some money, But they aint hurtin in that area anyway.. They could all be limited to a certain HP range for the motors and let them see what happens. Kinda like the old days when they used different production models for every team.
Whoever wants to join in, bring them in. If that means foreign cars then so be it. We''ll call it "INASCAR". Not exclusive to National cars..
I know, I'm crazy but. This sounds cool to me...
That being said Nascar has been going to hell since they mandated the cot. It's not what the drivers like, It's not what the fans like, and it shows from the ticket sales.
IMHO the race teams owners, ( you know, those Rich guys) should be able to pick a make and model they want to use.
Lets say Jack Roush wants to build a Mustang to race Nascar. Let him do it. Hell Make him do it. Who says all the models have to be Fusions..
Same with Richard Childress, he could have an Impala, and Corvette..
Sure they would have to spend some money, But they aint hurtin in that area anyway.. They could all be limited to a certain HP range for the motors and let them see what happens. Kinda like the old days when they used different production models for every team.
Whoever wants to join in, bring them in. If that means foreign cars then so be it. We''ll call it "INASCAR". Not exclusive to National cars..
I know, I'm crazy but. This sounds cool to me...
#16
My only comment on foreign cars in nascar is simply this....it's the National Association of Stock Car Auto Racing, not International.
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This is a real discussion on another forum I'm occasionally on....
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This is a real discussion on another forum I'm occasionally on....
http://www.bigwestracing.com/forums/...ad.php?t=21742
LMFAO ^^^
#19
ALSO --
On the gamer note of Nascar, it looks like EA is no longer going to renew their Nascar titles like Nascar 2005-2009. The rumor going around is that their license with Nascar is up at the end of the year, so they plan on making a sequel to Nascar Kart Racers, and then let their contract expire. Another rumor going around is that both Polyphonic and Codemasters gaming companies are interested in possible recreating another Nascar gaming franchise.
On the gamer note of Nascar, it looks like EA is no longer going to renew their Nascar titles like Nascar 2005-2009. The rumor going around is that their license with Nascar is up at the end of the year, so they plan on making a sequel to Nascar Kart Racers, and then let their contract expire. Another rumor going around is that both Polyphonic and Codemasters gaming companies are interested in possible recreating another Nascar gaming franchise.
#20
I'm about 2-2 1/2 hours away from Inifinion. I love the road courses more. As far as the games go, they were pretty boring. The only cool thing about them was putting in a code for one of the years and you could shoot tires. My friend and I would just race and knock everyone out my shotting tires at them and ******* up their cars.
#21
I hope someone will make a new Nascar game for PC.. Geez It's been 3 or 4 years since Nascar simracing, and I'm getting tired of NFS everything.. I just want to race with my MOMO wheel man.. .
And as far as watching Nascar on TV. I used to hate road courses, but last few years I have favored them. As long as I don't sit in my favorite laz e boy chair I might can stay awake for a whole race..
And as far as watching Nascar on TV. I used to hate road courses, but last few years I have favored them. As long as I don't sit in my favorite laz e boy chair I might can stay awake for a whole race..
#22
Check out ARCA Sim Racing from The Sim Factory. I beta tested that and it kicks butt, now. I don't have the time to do it anymore, but it's a kick butt and competitive game. Hamlin and Truex Jr. are on there sometimes too...not so much on the free servers, but occasionally they will.
I think when Nascar decided to finish that race in the race was the best thing ever. I think they should have those rain tires available for every track just incase. That way we can't have any more rainouts like qualifying last week.
I think when Nascar decided to finish that race in the race was the best thing ever. I think they should have those rain tires available for every track just incase. That way we can't have any more rainouts like qualifying last week.
#23
Check out ARCA Sim Racing from The Sim Factory. I beta tested that and it kicks butt, now. I don't have the time to do it anymore, but it's a kick butt and competitive game. Hamlin and Truex Jr. are on there sometimes too...not so much on the free servers, but occasionally they will.
I think when Nascar decided to finish that race in the race was the best thing ever. I think they should have those rain tires available for every track just incase. That way we can't have any more rainouts like qualifying last week.
I think when Nascar decided to finish that race in the race was the best thing ever. I think they should have those rain tires available for every track just incase. That way we can't have any more rainouts like qualifying last week.
yes the should make them race in the rain, F1 does it. You just gotta adjust for the slick conditions.
#24
For sure. But I doubt they'll do that again...with how many drivers wrecked and the current state of the economy and all. But man, it was the scene of 2008s most awesome thing ever...
Carl Edwards Swiffer
I love how he actually uses a swiffer during the race...lol
Carl Edwards Swiffer
I love how he actually uses a swiffer during the race...lol
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