http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/d...347191029.html

 

lol

 

dumbest move ever...that guy is going to spend a a lil time in jail...i speak because i absolutely know a guy that did the same thing and she saw it...it can be traced to his computer...and it can be used to put him in lockup...he confessed to stealing her wallet...he confessed to taking her cat...both larceny...and he has communicated via electronic communication with her all of these things to which will annoy and harass her making it aggravated harassment...what a dope...alls this other guy did was mention he took her pocketbook on craigs list...trust me bros...

 

yes it does..and they have more on this guy than the guy i know...this guy made it personal by talking about how he held her that night...he talked about the dinner...he talked about the flier...he pointed it right at himself...its more than enough...and if he really took the cat to the cl its checkmate for her

 

Debbie downer...



lol I didnt say it was smart, just funny.

 

its funny...i'm just yappin about the other side of it cause its a real recent situation to me lol

 

While in college last year, one of my friends had a hard case come down on him. One of his chick friends had recieved threats of rape and sexual harrassment from his IP, my friends was freaking out thinking he was going to jail. (The police were alll like "we have all the evidence we need etc", you know, the BS used to get you to confess) There is really no way they can slam him for it, and he got off free. (I believe him that he didnt do it though, he is not that kinda person, lol) Your situation was prolly a little different, when the cops came and said "your IP matches" he prolly confessed. Had heput up a little resistance they would leave him alone. Its just your local PD...

 

I liked it myself. That's what she gets for being stupid and cheating on him.

 

Thats just AWESOME!!

 

you dopes should probably educate yourselves about DHCP. No ISP keeps records for more than a week or so. It's just not possible to maintain the data storage systems to retain that sort of data.

 

Go do your TPS reports yeh dork

lol

 

not true for craigslist...they keep a record of posters just waiting for that lil ol supoena...

 

don't try to argue internet with r3dn3ck, he runs the damn thing!

 

I don't run the whole thing... just a nice size piece of it. Besides... SR is right. Craig LOVES to put the hammer down on peeps that do no-no's on his site. Problem is Craig has nothing.. just a log of an IP that has been potentially re-assigned or hijacked and an email address that's almost certainly been created for this singular purpose.

Subpeona takes days and only really ever happens after the investigation is mostly complete. My own company works regularly with various law enforcement. It never takes a court order... just a single piece of letterhead with a request and we'll have the results that day. I've never gotten a request for information for any communication over 2 days old.

Fact of the matter is that since they cohabitated there is NOTHING law enforcement can do. They are considered to have defacto authorized access to all property in the shared residence (former Police Academy grad too... not just a geek). If he tossed out her wallet and lied then he's a dick but he has not broken any law. You can't call it theft because it's not... he tossed it out. Giving away the cat was just the same... it's shared property. He does stand to be civilly sued for the tape of her and her fwb for making a video without their explicit knowledge and consent. But since he returned it to the subject (her) it's also a no-go for any kind of actual legal result.

C'mon...it's hard being right all the time. Someone else here has to be or have been a cop.

 

cough cough....i object your honor!! defense reasoning that the defendant and the victim lived together is pure speculation. and defense would have you believe that if in fact the defendant and victim did live together then that gives the defendant the right to take the property of his live in love and destroy it or throw it out at will...further the defense would have you excuse the defendant's petit larceny on the grounds that he took said property and immediately threw it away..well ladies and gentlemen of the jury, i submit to you the image of a common purse snatcher that has taken your purse or wallet off of a bench and run away...yes that common thief is gioing to go through your wallet and remove the cash,,,then that thief is probably going to throw the wallet in the trash bin...if we are fortunate enough to catch and prosecute that purse snatcher we will most certainly charge him with the theft of the cash AND we wont neglect your snakeskin wallet because he put it in a bin...he stole that too...you see ladies and gentlemen...the defendant stole the property of the victim, his exgirlfriend....he took her proprty in his own hand with the intent that she never see it again...her property...not his...and then the defendant arrogantly admited it and sent it in the form of an email directed at the victim...now i'm going to come back to that email in a moment..........blah blah blah blah blah...zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.......





to be continued

 

welcome back from the break, ladies and gentlemen. We were talking about the grand larceny aspect of the defendants actions...grand larceny because he admittedly took her property, regardless of waht he did with it, and he threw her property away...HER property, ladies and gentlemen...the defendants own words...and by the defendants own words he admittedly that the property contained credit cards...that makes it a grand larceny by nys state definition...and the defendant was nice enough to let you know that...in his own words...
now as to the craigs list posting itself...aggravated harassment in nys state law is defined as ANY communication via electronic or written means made with the purpose of causing annoyance and alarm to the receiver...i think we can all agree that the victim was not happy to receive see the letter directed at her on craigslist...and the only good thing here is that the defendant was nice enough to leave breadcrumbs directed at himself all through the letter...he mentioned how he took her wallet and when he took her wallet in a manner that only he would know...he mentions taking the victim to the restaurant and leaving her with the bill...not a crime ladies and gentlemen but we have witnesses and video from the restaurant that the defendant and the victim went to that show the defendant leaving her in the restaurant...again that is not a crime but the fact that the letter makes note of that is yet another breadcrumb the defendant was nice enough to leave us...he mentions taking the cat to the shelter...HER cat...by his own words he clearly notes that the cat is not only the property of the victim but he also notes how dear the cat is to her...we have witnesses that remember the defendant bringing the cat in to the shelter and leaving it with an evil smile..ladies and gentlemen...we ALL know he wrote the email and posted it on craigslist for the victim to see...we have the supoena'd records from craigs list that prove the posting came from the defendants computer...we have the defendants computer supoena'd as well...and on it we found the cookies leading to the posting in the defendants own computer...ladies and gentlemen...I know the defendant is guilty of grand larceny and aggravated harassment and i am confident that you will do your duty as patriotic americans and jurists and return a verdict of guilty on both charges......






ps..how much do yall want to bet hes gonna hear that speech or somethin like it in the next few days cause i see they already flagged and removed the post...chuckle...i tell you i was there

 

The internet is very anonymous. DHCP only leases the IP address out to an individual for a set amount of time. Once the "lease" is up the server can decide to change the IP for the client and reassign the IP to someone else. Since the master server doesn't keep any records as to who had what IP at what time, it doesn't do too much good to query an IP address since it can change from person to person. Although I would assume if one logged the MAC address of the modem that obtains said IP from DHCP it would make it simpler, but then again that might throw up flags as to privacy on the internet.

In reality, think of dial-up access for this. If you dial-up AOL, for instance...you will get a different IP address each time you dial up. AOL doesn't log who had what IP at what time, especially not two weeks back from the time an IP was leased to a client.

It's like when I was admin here. I couldn't ban clients who were using an AOL account because the IP would continuously change. If I banned one specific IP I would end up banning about 50 different users. And believe me, there were a few people I wanted to ban this way!

 

hey...the craigs ad is back up...it was taken down this morning and now its back up and a lil bit different

 

you forget the ability to take property relies on the lack of authorized access whether explicit or implicit. He seems to have lived with her so there's his implicit authorization. If you let them stay the night you grant them access to your home and all that is not under lock and key.

 

not in this states court...there have been brothers locked up for stealing their sisters jewelry...fiances have been prosecuted for taking back engagement rings that they bought themselves and its argued successfully in front of the bench that it was given as a gift therefore the property of the woman so yes...you can buy her the 10000 dollar ring...she cheats on you..you take the ring back and she can have you arrested in new york state and while you sit in the cage she will sell that ring and use it to buy her new guy a used car...matter of fact...a navy guy recently found that his house guest of over a year moved out of his home and took the navy guy's tv and computer with him...i didnt ask and the sailor didnt tell what their relationship was...heh heh...navy guys...anyway....that house guest of over a year spent almost that time in jail

 

*****.

 

Damnit..missed it.....