well i just the other day put my 4.10 gears in and i got an sct x cal2 tuner and put a custom 93 tune on it. im so happy with it i felt a big difference and the only thing i can say is really dont fear the gear lol. i deffinatly got my moneys worth. but now sadly the need for more is kicking in (after 1 week) so im trying to plan out my next mod im thinking about headers cause that would free up a lot since i have all the air from the t-body and plenum, but idk what do you guys think, what else could i do get my heads ported and polished if anyone feels like it i could use some help on a list of things i could do for more power.
thanks
max

 

two words.... B L O W --- E R.

P&P heads will almost cost as much as a blower once all is said and done. Might as well just get 400hp instead of 300....

 

man i wish i could get a blower but i dont really have like 6 grand just hanging around in my room. im talking like what could i do for about 1,000, how about cams what would that cost wen all is said and done? i want more but cant spend more than like 1,500

 

6K? naw... try 4500 out the door. But I hear ya. Do this...

Take 1500 bucks down to your local bank. Drop it in a money market account and keep adding to it till you have at least 3K stored away. I know this sucks but trust me... you'll thank me later. Once you have your 3K then you have enough to decide between cams which will cost about 1K to install + 600 bucks for the cams and 250 for springs and another 150 bucks to have your tune updated (read 2K), or if you want to save up for another few months and get the blower.

if you just can't hold onto your 1000-1500 then pay attention to your suspension and braking. You've got plenty of power if you can keep it planted to the pavement and stop when you want. The first things I'd do are:
subframe connectors... RIGHT NOW... do it!
cobra brakes... ditto
Maximum motorsports RLCA's
Maximum motorsports Panhard bar.

With just those 4 things you'll have a whole new car that's way better handling, more stable and easier to drive at the edge which will give you the impression of it being actually faster.

I know that's not what you asked for but that's the advice I'm giving based on long experience.

 

yeah i think i might just have to calm down and start saving and decide once i have all the money i might just go ahead and do headers along with the suspension components that you mentioned. but idk cause cams would be sick, ive always wanted them so maybe i might end up doing that i cant decide

 

Blowers arent expensive. Tim @ MPH told me around 3k for a brand new Novi 2000 tuner kit (for a Bullitt, no injectors, chip, MAF, pump, or cooler). Only other thing youd need is injectors, pump, and possibly a MAF.

 

how much did you end up spending at evolutions?

 

After 2 mustangs and heavily modding both the 1 most valuable lesson I've learned is patience. It's hard to learn and harder to stick to but it's the most valuable thing I've done. I've spent almost 3 years gathering up what I needed to make my 5.4L dreams come true. I faced ugly realities of cost and I'm glad for it. I'm more determined now than ever to reach my goal. If you can muster up the patience then I know you'll be rewarded with a solid car that you can not only be proud of but that will make YOU happy every time you turn the key. Cams are neat... but they aint everything. Once you go blower then down the line you can think about blower cams and really turn up the output.

Ask yourself if you want to chance spending whatever it costs to do cams again... cuz you probably will eventually go to a blower and then you'll want blower cams and not need NA cams anymore.

 

purestang i ended up spending about 590 for every thing (install, all minor parts needed for the install and the custom tune) they were good guys and they did a great job. the only thing that sucked is that me and my friend had to just wait around for 5 hours lol we didnt think about that but whatever it was good.

i am going to try my hardest to save up and not spend all my money on little things. idk what i will end up doin though i really want a supercharger but i wouldnt even know where to begin with getting one what would the final cost be with everything a full kit and install prices, and how much dyno tuning is required. cause at evolution they said for a full dyno tune it was 500 would that be all i need? i dont know much about all of this. im pretty much learning as i go along. but im having so much fun learning lol

 

blower kit figure in about 3400 to get all the bits you'll need.
install.. 8 hours x your local rate. Tuning.. it's not hard if they know what they're doing. You have a xcal2 so they can just load a tune on that and you shouldn't be paying for more than about 2 hours of dyno time at whatever their rate is... it's not normally that long a process for a skilled tuner.

 

Where did you get this done at? i live in Jersey and i'm looking for a good shop to instal gears and tune it

 

i went to a shop called evolution performance

www.evoperform.com

they are a very good and reputable shop there located in aston PA wich was about and hour and 15 minutes away from me and im in union county.

as for the tune they could dyno tune it for you but depending on what mods you have you dont need a dyno tune you can just get a handheld tuner and that tune will be just fine. thats what i did.

the install is goin to be 500 plus some for some little things they might need.

 

man i spent less than 2k for my kit. you can definately find something. Oh wait I forgot, FRPP sells a roots blower kit for our cars and its only like $1100. Its a 6psi non-intercooled kit that adds about 50-60hp on a stock car. Thats certainly an option.

 

yeah but if im gonna do it im just gonna do it right ya know plus 50-60 isnt that much i would rather get a real blower and get me to the 400 range

did you get a used set up how did you get one for under 2k

 

yes I got mine used off ebay and I would definately do it over again. Just find you a decent looking s or sq-trim. As long as the blower spins smoothly and the impeller isnt bent, then its probably just as good as a new one. The parts on those things dont really wear out. Except for the seals and bearings which need to be changed once in like every 5 years or more. Even if it does need new seals you can get them changed out for like $10 or even just change them yourself.

Start slow and just go ahead and buy a head unit. You can find them on ebay for like $500-800 used. Vortech parts are very easy to find if you know where to look so stick with them for a used kit. Then, start building the kit. Its fun and cost effective. One week I bought the mounting bracket and hardware, then I bought the belt and pullies, then the discharge tube, bypass valve assembly, intake tube, oil lines, MAF, filter, injectors, chip, then I just went ahead and slapped the kit on. I drove it for like a month it seemed untuned on stock maf and injectors just waiting and saving for the tune. FInally I took it down and got it tuned. Its been fun.

 

I don't have many mods so i probably don't need a dyno tune, but i don't wanna spend 400 bucks on a handheld if i'm just gonna use it once. can they do a custom tune without putting it on the dyno?

Also that price for 500+ did that include the gears along with oil and a bearing/install kit or did you have to buy that seperatly?

Thanks for the info.

 

what i did was got a kit from american muscle wich had 4.10 gears 3 bottles of lube and an xcal2 tuner for 530 after the mustang boards discount.

the price of 500 is just for the install it sounds steep but shop around i called a bunch of places and the cheapest i found was 400 but i just went with evolution cause i know they are good.

im not positive if they can just put a tune on your car but i dont think they can just get the tuner its good to have because its a diagnostics tuner and whenever you get new parts you can just update the tune and your all good.

 

the handheld is a tool for life. you'll use it... trust me. Everytime you throw a code, or want to fiddle with how it's running or want to toss on some new mod. From this point out pretty much every mod can be optimized with a little tuning. Having the handheld makes tuning and un-tuning your car hella easy. Way better option than just some speed-cal or a chip.

 

GREAT advise!!! Save up....don't blow you dough on stupid **** just because you feel the need to do something.

 

id do the headers.....then save for supercharger

 

Ok thats what i thought. I checked out their site and they seem like a good company. i'll be giving them a call in about a month or two once i'm ready to put in the gears

 

Yea i was debating whether or not to get it. but i guess it would be good to have for future mods. just gotta save up a little more now lol.

 

Would anyone happen to have a link to this. That price would be very realisticly doable for me in the near future.

 

no longer cataloged. Good luck finding one. If you do jump on that m-er f-er. They're just a M90 eaton with a built in manifold. Not a very efficient blower or setup in general.

 

edit... found a couple on ebay. Whole kit for 2400. Ready, go!

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