looking into 5.0
#1
looking into 5.0
ive always loved 5.0's i love the look of the beautiful foxbody, black red silver white blue green, anything is amazing. my question i have been looking at parts, they seem so cheap and they add lots of power... my question, if i were to buy this set up for a 5.0, no i do not hve one yet, any ways. if i were to buy this set, would it really give me about 360hp to the wheels like it says?
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku
and anther thing, as im looking into buying one, im going to redo the engine, im going to get new heads for it new intake and probably a s/c maybe turbo, would this be a good set to go with? what is a good rule of thumb if im going to want to keep the same engine in, what i mean is mileage, whats a good rule of thumb, under 100k miles or does it matter if im changing everything around.
i know this is alot of rambling guys but i would appreciate any help you can give me
Thanks
Bruce
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku
and anther thing, as im looking into buying one, im going to redo the engine, im going to get new heads for it new intake and probably a s/c maybe turbo, would this be a good set to go with? what is a good rule of thumb if im going to want to keep the same engine in, what i mean is mileage, whats a good rule of thumb, under 100k miles or does it matter if im changing everything around.
i know this is alot of rambling guys but i would appreciate any help you can give me
Thanks
Bruce
#2
this looks like the edelbrock set up im looking at geting. the edelbrock power pack for the 5.0 is about $1700 and it gets you close to what it ses. as far as how many miles are on what ever you buy it wont mater how many miles are on the motor if you are having it rebuilt but it will with the rest of the drive train and suspention.
#3
alright thanks man, hey one more ?, if im looking into turbo or s/c and nitrous for the car in the future, do you think i will need a stronger block? or do you think itll be fine? if the h/c/i is stronger?
#7
you have asked a lot of questions, so i will try to answer as many as i can.
the fox mustang is a great car, they are cheap, reliable, dependable, and have been around forever. the aftermarket for them is amazing, used parts, and used performance parts are more then then plentiful. im a college student,so the fox was a perfect fit for me. 87-93 were mostly the same, but 86 was the first year for fuel injection. there are some minor difference through the years, which you can read up about here:
http://www.mustanggt.org/year.htm
the trick flow top end kit is good. the stock block is the weak point. above 500hp things start to get alittle sketchy, but some of the have held together at 550-600 for awhile, others break at 450. main girdles dont really help with this, but they will hold all the pieces in the block when it cracks down the middle. due to the roller cams, and good block material the cylinders tend to show very little wear, ive torn apart 100,000+ mile motors with no ring groove. unless yours has a lot of blow by or low compression on one cylinder ,you dont have to rebuild it.
finding a running turbo mustang is kind of oddity, especially in a fox. i dont know if its just installation error or what, but seem to have a lot of issues. blowers are tried and true, as it nitrous. but 150 is about all the upper intake can take, as it will puddle. many companies make plate kits that sit between the upper and lower that work great, and nx has a two stage unit thats good for 150 on each stage.
i looked 6 months before i found my car, at the time i was moving from ohio to south carolina, so i was looking from micigan to florida, and indianna to the ocean, i finally found my car 7 hours away below daytona florida, paid cash for it, and drove it home. its been the perfect car for me the last year and a half. so take your time, and find the right car for you.
the fox mustang is a great car, they are cheap, reliable, dependable, and have been around forever. the aftermarket for them is amazing, used parts, and used performance parts are more then then plentiful. im a college student,so the fox was a perfect fit for me. 87-93 were mostly the same, but 86 was the first year for fuel injection. there are some minor difference through the years, which you can read up about here:
http://www.mustanggt.org/year.htm
the trick flow top end kit is good. the stock block is the weak point. above 500hp things start to get alittle sketchy, but some of the have held together at 550-600 for awhile, others break at 450. main girdles dont really help with this, but they will hold all the pieces in the block when it cracks down the middle. due to the roller cams, and good block material the cylinders tend to show very little wear, ive torn apart 100,000+ mile motors with no ring groove. unless yours has a lot of blow by or low compression on one cylinder ,you dont have to rebuild it.
finding a running turbo mustang is kind of oddity, especially in a fox. i dont know if its just installation error or what, but seem to have a lot of issues. blowers are tried and true, as it nitrous. but 150 is about all the upper intake can take, as it will puddle. many companies make plate kits that sit between the upper and lower that work great, and nx has a two stage unit thats good for 150 on each stage.
i looked 6 months before i found my car, at the time i was moving from ohio to south carolina, so i was looking from micigan to florida, and indianna to the ocean, i finally found my car 7 hours away below daytona florida, paid cash for it, and drove it home. its been the perfect car for me the last year and a half. so take your time, and find the right car for you.
#8
thanks clem, you guys give real good advice, i think i will do as suggested and wait till i find one that fits me best, in the mean, as always ill be on every forum i can find, reading up on the cars and such. thanks so much and i always learn more and more stuff on here.
Thanks
Bruce
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Bruce
#9
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Bruce
#10
cast is where the pour liquid metal into a mold, then take it out of the mold and finish machine it. this is cheaper, lighter, and not as stong.
forging is where they take a chunch of aluminum and beat it into the shape with tons and tons force. this pounding helps to make the material more dense and stronger. then it is finished machine. these pieces are stronger, but heavier.
once again, forged crank/rods/piston are useless in a stock block because at around 500 hp it will just break the block. so unless you are going to use an older stronger block, or an aftermarket block theres really no point.
forging is where they take a chunch of aluminum and beat it into the shape with tons and tons force. this pounding helps to make the material more dense and stronger. then it is finished machine. these pieces are stronger, but heavier.
once again, forged crank/rods/piston are useless in a stock block because at around 500 hp it will just break the block. so unless you are going to use an older stronger block, or an aftermarket block theres really no point.
#11
aha! thanks alot, clem. ill keep that in mind. im not really liking the dart blocks for a few thousand... so ill probably stay away. ok i think i know what im going to do, ill get back on here and show some pics when i finally get a fox. itll be end of summer or so. until then, ill be reading
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