MMFF Nov.'09 has an article on the new TFS 2V heads. I've only browsed thru the article, but these things look sick. They are making pretty good power just bolted on, and the shop believes there is ALOT of potential for 'em.

 

Ok boys and girls I need a dohc front cover... anyone got a extra? I'm still lacking a tubular kmember, new rods and pistons and rings and new timing chain, machine shop time and that should be about it I hope... going to use the cobra twin fuel set up for now till I can afford the fore system. I damaged my left rear nitto so I gotta get a new one soon, this is still my dd. =) I need the cover to finish up mock uup and I'm going to use adapter plate but that money going to the new tire now ;( so that being said I'm getting closer with my parts pile and I'm going to go ahead and swap the irs in hopefully next 2 weeks along with new bigger brakes, and new suspenion parts for the month of oct. Still tryn to do swap over christmas new year weeks... I know there's a show here in houston in nov so I plan on looking for a hood there along with some trinkets I want too

 

so, i thought the mount was broke. heres the story, last night i found out i had a gas leak on the driver side fuel rail. goto work today and figured out what it was. the pinch welded metal on the firewall was hitting my 90 going into the rail so it was pushing the injectors at a small angle (just enough for the leak) wasnt doing this before i had my "broken" motor mount. so while im "persuading" the metal i decide to crawl under the car and check out the mount. well as it seems the passenger side mount slid to the bottom of the slot in the frame and the driver went to the top. and my exhaust was just a nut fell off so it was barely on there. all three very easy fixes. love when problems are simple. i was worried that i'd have a ton of work to do on the car plus college and work to be ready for the fall nationals this weekend.

 

ANybody have any educated opinions on a Lightning supercharger swap in my 5.4 It is a NPI shortblock and they have higher compression ratios due to the piston cc's. I don't wanna mess with the short block, just bolt the supercharger on. I have comp cams' 270's and Partiot stage II heads. Think it'll work??

 

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No Questions,Thanks Tho.

Just like to know who im talking to thats why i ask, Ever got yours up the dyno to see what kinda numbers your putting down?

Dammit, I asked a question

 

Not me, I would have to have alot of **** going on to break a solid mount

R3dN3ck!
On Page 259 i was looking at your picks.,Looks Good but your TPS Sensor is on backwards...

 

I'm looking for the ins and outs of doing a lightning supercharger swap for those few that have done it. Will an 03-04 Cobra head unit fit on a lightning intake. This would eliminate the top inlet and make it more practical. Not to mention the head units can be had on eBay used for a decent price. What do you use for a crank pulley?? What about the belt idler/tensioner bracket?? Ford parts are expensive to say the least. And also, nobody tackled my question about. Is it ok to put a lightning top end on a stock NPI '97 bottom end?? R3D??

 

Does anyone know or otherwise have any information as to whether the new TFS 2-V heads will work with the factory 2001 BULLITT intake manifold ... ???

I've been trying to find some clarification on that for the longest but cannot seem to find anything.

 

The bolt pattern should be the same, but I imagine a port match would be a good idea. The heads are made to bolt up to stock components.

 

Seeing as the Bullitt (FRPP) intake manifold was designed to mate with the stock PI heads, and these new TFS heads are direct replacement for the PI heads... I'd say they damn well better work with the Bullitt intake manifold. As the previous poster stated, you may have to do some port matching on the intake side, but that should work real well with your combo. If/when you do the upgrade, you need to let us know how well it all worked for you.

 

man i,ve been reading this thread for the pass two days(barely on page 31) and ill be honest it is very interesting. I have a 96 stang with an 02 engine and tranny. My stang is fully bolt-on with stage two comp cams. Well let me say that i had an 02 engine cause my engine lock up on me last week. Im thinking bout doing the 5.4 swap i just have a few questions.

1. wat is the max rpm you could go on a fully bolt-on 5.4 with stage cams and heads
2. if i get a short block can i use my 4.6 pi-heads
3. what hp and tq will i get with a 5.4 fully bolt-on with stage two heads and cams
4. any et slips with something similiar to what i have or will have

 

1.I wouldn't go any more then 6k,Unless you get into the bottom end.
you would be able to tell a little better when you get it on a dyno and see where the power drops off.

2.Yes.The 5.4 is just about identical to the 4.5 the only real difference is blocks deck height,Hence the extra stroke.

3.A Heads/Cam 5.4 will see 300+ RWHP.The same car with a 100 shot of nitrous put down 418/481 to the wheels on a stock bottom end.

4.On motor 12s,On spray or supercharged 11s

 

i found an 03 5.4 block with 70k miles for $900, that sounds like a good deal right. I have another question regarding the flywheel. I heard something bout a 6 bolt to 8 bolt flywheel convertion. If im not wrong i think that stick mustangs come with 8 bolt flywheel or atleast 99 - 04 stangs do. Please correct me if im wrong. I replace mine with an aluminum bout a year ago and thing it was 8 bolts, maybe im wrong. thanks for your help 330cubegt

 

All Windsor built motors, some 4.6's and all 5.4's, use 8 bolt crank's thus 8 bolt flywheels. So if you've got an 8 bolt, you should be set.

$900 is a good price, but you'll need a front cover from a 97-01. The later style covers dont have the two bolt holes for the power steering pump.

 

i just call the junk yard to let them know that i do want the engine, they didn't know it was for a mustang. when i told them they told me that they had put a 4.6 3v out of an f150 into an 01 mustang. that d only mods they did was they use the 01 timing cover, oil pan, and exhauste. no computer and wiring was replace at all. they sell me an 06 3v for 1250 and this includes installation. what do you all think!

 

There is no "Conversion" you either have a 6 bolt or a 8 Bolt. Odds are its a 8 Bolt. Mustangs come with a 6 Bolt.Im pretty sure the only time you will see a 8 bolt 4.6 if any would be out of a truck/suv etc.

+1 I ditched my 04 cover for a 01 cover.For some Reason the 01 cover is the same cover thats on my 02 5.4 in my truck,but i did get the truck used so who knows it could be a 01 motor lol...


Not bad i guess,I wouldent go 3V But thats completly up to you and what you want out of your own car.

 

i decided to go with the 2003 5.4 and im getting the timing cover dat i need for the same price , not bad of a deal . ONE last question! A friend of mine has a set of stage 3 pi heads. will they work with my stage two pi comp cams and will i have to do any mods to the 5.4 block .

 

nope. cams and heads will have a happy marriage in your engine...

 

+1

 

man im so happy! i just got the adaptor plates for 150 from another friend. Know im only missing injectors, 90mm MAF, and fuel rails. I want to get all this b4 i get my car retune. Oh and i hope my aluminum flywheel is 8 bolts if not i will have to get another one. SO HAPPY! thankyou guy for answering all my questions.

 

there has got to be a way to get a supercharger, not centrifigul, under a stock-ish hood of a mustang. i alrdy know that the eaton out of the liughtning is out of the question but does anyone know of possibly another supercharger that WOULD fit udner a hood? or have any suggestions?

 

I like how nobody attempted to answer my questions above on the supercharger.....

 

I'm baaaaaaaack. Hunting was hella fun. Killed 2 deer and 3 turkeys. Got some nice trophies and a freezer full of meat.

A kenne bell blower setup will fit under a modest cowl but nothing made for top mount will fit entirely under a stock hood that I've been able to discover.

Note 00' model GT's often came with 8 bolt cranks. Other years not so much. If you get a 5.4 you must have an 8 bolt flexplate or flywheel. I don't recommend aluminum flywheels for the street as they take a bit of getting used to. If you're ok with that then enjoy.

Any motor completely installed for less than 2 grand is a deal around here.

 

I've been out of town... gotta cut me some slack. hell I'm back 3 days early.

So.... lightning swap is not super easy but it's not truly hard.

cobra blower will not work on a 2v. Kenne Bell has just the thing you're talking about though with a lightning blower that uses side inlet.

Crank pulley, Use a stock lightning damper and the blower drive pulley that sits in front of it. You'll need a correct lightning or harley f-150 blower pulley bridge.

Yes it's fine to put a PI top on a NPI bottom. It'll bump the compression by a bit but nothing painful. Should end up a 9.8:1 IIRC which is still fairly blower friendly.

 

how "mild" of a cowl are we talking? and will a hole need to be cut? also i heard whipple's supercharger is shorter than the lightnings eaton. i want a supercharger but just want it to fit under the hood and look semi sleeper.

 

no idea. I've read of it being very mild.. like 2-3 inches. As for any of the fine details, hey man this is hotrodding. Some things you just gotta try. I did a lot of that.

 

There is for sure and i bet i could do it.Its just not going to be a Bolt on application,Well i might be when finished but it would have to be custom fitted.

I thought it did through PM

4 inch with no issues with a KB or Whip, a 3 inch would be pushing it but most likely possible.


Im thinking about trying a 6 inch with mine with a little added fiberglass work i think i can make it fit under a 6",I was going to leave it out of the hood and since i made this hood i wanted to keep it but its starting to crack since i cut most of the support out of the hood so i have to figure something else out.

 

Or there is this hood( Been thinking about it).More of a Race style hood,Pin on style but still a 6 inch witch is Streetable, The kicker on this hood is the cowl comes up sooner in the hood so to speak making the clearance twards the front of the hood more then any other 6 inch Cowl for these cars. So its most likely going to be this hood if any or a bond on Cowl and ill do it myself.

I think it will fit under it,What do you think?
http://www.feathercarbon.com/cf_part...%20mustang.jpg

http://www.feathercarbon.com/cf_part...od_800x600.jpg

 

it'll fit under that probably but I've seen a car with a very much identical hood and the L blower still stuck out the top. I'm thinking of a bond on rear opening cowl but that'll depend on funding.

Someone buy my damned nitrous kit so I can finish my car plz.

 

I have a question that maybe yall might know. I currently have a 2000 GT 4.6L. This is a 4v question so bare with me. So I havent really read the whole thread but what i noticed is that many are buying a navi motor. But the heads are very big and not only that, they are more expensive than the 5.4L 2v. Has anyone tried buying the 2v short block then adding the 4v B or C heads to that? Doing a 2v to 4v swap thing. That way i would imagine that there would be more room in the engine bay. How complicated would you guys think it would be? I know i need to either extend my 2v harness or get a 4v harness. Intake manifold? Sullivan?

Im undecisive on what route i want to go. One way is a 5.4L, 4v, nice cams, boreing the block .020 over, then spraying it. Kind of like a Cobra R. Worth it?