nitrous, gears, and more

trnin · 09-24-2005, 11:57 AM

ok so i have 4.10 gears and i am going to get the venom 1000 kit some time soon. my car is an auto and im just wondering if i was shooting my self in the foot by getting 4.10's if i plan on using a 75-100 hp shot...is traction gonna be a huge issue........also does that venom 1000 come with a window switch??? thanx TRNIN

*4.6 Love* · 09-24-2005, 01:01 PM

You might have some problem from take off with 4.10's and a 100 shot, but its all on how you drive your car. I personally have 3.73's on my mustang and run a 75 shot with no problems. I don't know if the kit you are trying to buy comes with a window switch or not, but most do. I have my nitrous set up on a button, so when i spray from 1st and blow the tires off, i just let of the button and spray until second...

MattJ · 09-24-2005, 01:21 PM

with 4.10s, you probably wont be able to spray sucessfully untill 3rd gear. You might be able to squeeze it in 2nd but it will be tough.

BrentK · 09-24-2005, 01:44 PM

3:73's.....

Joel's98GT · 09-24-2005, 01:45 PM

run DR's and spray in 2nd, if you run out of gear in 3rd use a taller tire or back down to a 3.90

WaterDR · 09-24-2005, 07:23 PM

You will be fine! Having 4.10's with a Venom-1000 is not ideal, but you will be fine. IMO, not worth the expense of changing back. Keep in mind, 95 - 99% of the time you will be driving n/a.

I run 4.10's with the Venom-1000 on a 5 speed. Spraying in 2nd is a real hoot! You will hook-up.

One of the neat features about the Venom-1000, is that there is a slight delay after going to WOT and the nitrous. This slight delay makes all the difference in the world when it comes to gettng traction.

Now, here is another neat feature! As you know, the Venom-1000 will not spray until you are at WOT and the a/f is good, right? Well, you can also add a push button. The Venom computer is already pre-wired to accept a push-button activation switch.

When launching, you smash the pedal. As car shifts to second, you push the button and the nitrous will now spray as long as you are at WOT and have a good a/f. This way, you can delay the spray if you wish.

The venom systems do not have a window switch because you don't need one with this setup.

zincougt · 09-24-2005, 07:54 PM

with the auto and 4.10s with stock size tires you may run out of gear at the big end of the track...........ive had friends run into that problem spraying and using 4.10s with stock height tires...........

Blue02GT · 09-24-2005, 10:12 PM

You will be fine with the 4.10's.

spike_africa · 09-25-2005, 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MattJ

with 4.10s, you probably wont be able to spray sucessfully untill 3rd gear. You might be able to squeeze it in 2nd but it will be tough.

what? its nitrous not a jet engine lol.

jeredan2003 · 09-26-2005, 06:11 AM

No you wont get traction. I wouldnt even try to spray it on the street. You will need slicks to hook up at the strip. You definately need a window switch. Dont trust the Venom cutting it off when it goes lean.

I have stock gear and I dont get traction at all in 1st. Maybe if you had some good DR's like the M/T ET streets or something. The Nitto DR's dont hook up under spray with stock suspension.

modded46 · 11-02-2005, 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeredan2003

No you wont get traction. I wouldnt even try to spray it on the street. You will need slicks to hook up at the strip. You definately need a window switch. Dont trust the Venom cutting it off when it goes lean.

I have stock gear and I dont get traction at all in 1st. Maybe if you had some good DR's like the M/T ET streets or something. The Nitto DR's dont hook up under spray with stock suspension.

Quick question on this.. I just got the venom kit today and about to install it. I also plan on hooking up a window switch, do you know how this would be wired into the kit? Would the window switch fall between the venom module & the solenoid?

Any help would be great, thanks!

spike_africa · 11-03-2005, 06:25 AM

the switch would go between noids and the module as the MSD will be supplying the gorund for the noids. if you read the MSD directions you will understand alot more of what i am saying.

modded46 · 11-03-2005, 05:42 PM

Ok let me ask this then.. My kit is armed, and I floor the gas, but i'm only at 1500 RPM, wouldn't the nitrous start spraying right then? Or is that not what WOT really is?

spike_africa · 11-04-2005, 05:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by modded46

Ok let me ask this then.. My kit is armed, and I floor the gas, but i'm only at 1500 RPM, wouldn't the nitrous start spraying right then? Or is that not what WOT really is?

thats what the window swtich is for. you set the rpms you want it to spray at.

and yes 1500 at wot with the kit on is bad, you'll make like 600ft lbs on a 100shot though.

Samsstang · 11-04-2005, 07:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MattJ

with 4.10s, you probably wont be able to spray sucessfully untill 3rd gear. You might be able to squeeze it in 2nd but it will be tough.

No way!!

I have that exact set up! I launch at 3500-4k and drop the clutch, wait till it bites then floor it!! The juice doesnt kick in till WOT iam gettin 1.89- 1.95 60fts on bald BFG DRs. I would try to launch harder but our track is kind of crappy

09-24-2005, 11:57 AM	#1 (permalink)
trnin Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: rapid city sd Posts: 154	nitrous, gears, and more ok so i have 4.10 gears and i am going to get the venom 1000 kit some time soon. my car is an auto and im just wondering if i was shooting my self in the foot by getting 4.10's if i plan on using a 75-100 hp shot...is traction gonna be a huge issue........also does that venom 1000 come with a window switch??? thanx TRNIN __________________ 2001 mustang gt, automatic C&L intake plenum helix throttle body & intake spacers mac throttle body k&n cai diablo predator tune slp loudmouth cat back tokico illumina shocks&struts tokico lowering springs 1.25 4.10 gears vcn 1000 nitrous 1964.5 mustang 55 thousand orginal miles on bone stock 260 v-8 all stock &midnight blue/caspian blue sold

09-24-2005, 01:01 PM	#2 (permalink)
4.6 Love Super Moderator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mexico Posts: 6,136	You might have some problem from take off with 4.10's and a 100 shot, but its all on how you drive your car. I personally have 3.73's on my mustang and run a 75 shot with no problems. I don't know if the kit you are trying to buy comes with a window switch or not, but most do. I have my nitrous set up on a button, so when i spray from 1st and blow the tires off, i just let of the button and spray until second... __________________ Go Cowboys! X pipe and flows

09-24-2005, 01:21 PM	#3 (permalink)
MattJ Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Racine, WI Posts: 10,243	with 4.10s, you probably wont be able to spray sucessfully untill 3rd gear. You might be able to squeeze it in 2nd but it will be tough. __________________ 2001 Mustang GT Premium - Mineral Grey

09-24-2005, 01:44 PM	#4 (permalink)
BrentK Win it or wreck it Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: My Heart is in Ohio Posts: 1,287	3:73's..... __________________ 2003 GT

09-24-2005, 01:45 PM	#5 (permalink)
Joel's98GT Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Columbus, ohio Posts: 72	run DR's and spray in 2nd, if you run out of gear in 3rd use a taller tire or back down to a 3.90 __________________ Mods list & other info: http://forums.modulardepot.com/flysh...&s=&showid=358 60': 1.747....1/8: 8.49@79.5....1/4: 13.367@101.13

09-24-2005, 07:23 PM	#6 (permalink)
WaterDR Administrator Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 6,366	You will be fine! Having 4.10's with a Venom-1000 is not ideal, but you will be fine. IMO, not worth the expense of changing back. Keep in mind, 95 - 99% of the time you will be driving n/a. I run 4.10's with the Venom-1000 on a 5 speed. Spraying in 2nd is a real hoot! You will hook-up. One of the neat features about the Venom-1000, is that there is a slight delay after going to WOT and the nitrous. This slight delay makes all the difference in the world when it comes to gettng traction. Now, here is another neat feature! As you know, the Venom-1000 will not spray until you are at WOT and the a/f is good, right? Well, you can also add a push button. The Venom computer is already pre-wired to accept a push-button activation switch. When launching, you smash the pedal. As car shifts to second, you push the button and the nitrous will now spray as long as you are at WOT and have a good a/f. This way, you can delay the spray if you wish. The venom systems do not have a window switch because you don't need one with this setup. __________________ Black 2000 GT Vert: Novi-2000 with Intercooler (375rwhp @ 9 psi); Tune by Kauffmans; Roush 380R Body kit; Steeda Subframes; Steeda Strut Tower Support; Deep Dish Bullets; FRPP 4:10's; SCT 4 Position Chip with four custom tunes; Steeda CAI; C&L Pleum; BBK 75 TB; SLP Loudmouth; SLP Catted X-Pipe; Bullitt Suspension; UPR Conrol Arms; Focus Fuel Pump My Car My Email

09-24-2005, 07:54 PM	#7 (permalink)
zincougt Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Mustang, OK Posts: 40	with the auto and 4.10s with stock size tires you may run out of gear at the big end of the track...........ive had friends run into that problem spraying and using 4.10s with stock height tires........... __________________ 2001 Zinc Yellow GT 12.72@108 w/125 shot SCT 4-Bank Chip Demolet CAI Zex Wet Kit MAC O/R H-Pipe Flowmaster Cat-Back AUTOMATIC!!!

09-24-2005, 10:12 PM	#8 (permalink)
Blue02GT Ex Mini Smack King Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: St. Louis Posts: 868	You will be fine with the 4.10's. __________________ True Blue 2002 GT Premium 4r70W 1/8 8.205@ 84.780 1/4 12.874@ 107.20 Bolt on's n/a NMRA #7703 Dyno'd at Modular Depot 251 hp. 291 Tq. 4.30's, 3500 Stall converter, Steeda upper & Lowers, Tokico drag struts, M & M frame connectors, P & A valve body, C&L plenum, Accufab 75mm TB, Jet Hot Long tubes, Hooker O/R X, Steeda catback,SCT tune,Steeda pullies.

09-26-2005, 06:11 AM	#10 (permalink)
jeredan2003 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Murfreesboro, TN Posts: 1,788	No you wont get traction. I wouldnt even try to spray it on the street. You will need slicks to hook up at the strip. You definately need a window switch. Dont trust the Venom cutting it off when it goes lean. I have stock gear and I dont get traction at all in 1st. Maybe if you had some good DR's like the M/T ET streets or something. The Nitto DR's dont hook up under spray with stock suspension. __________________ 2003 DSG GT 5-speed Hellion 62mm and Flowmaster catback..... My bonestock 2v engine had been through 2 years of NX 100 shot, 3 years running 8-12lbs vortech s-trim, got into boost daily while racing on the weekends, had 157,000 miles on it, and was running like new

11-03-2005, 06:25 AM	#12 (permalink)
spike_africa Administrator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Orlando,Florida Posts: 7,142	the switch would go between noids and the module as the MSD will be supplying the gorund for the noids. if you read the MSD directions you will understand alot more of what i am saying. __________________ Dustin 2002 GT Mustang 5-Speed Drag Radials,Sprayed,Powershifted WOOO HOOOO!

11-03-2005, 05:42 PM	#13 (permalink)
modded46 Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 8	Ok let me ask this then.. My kit is armed, and I floor the gas, but i'm only at 1500 RPM, wouldn't the nitrous start spraying right then? Or is that not what WOT really is?

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